OT – Windows 7 Phone, MeeGo, Android, etc…

[afx114]

I read an interesting article the other day theorizing that as flash prices continue to plummet and sizes continue to increase, one day someone (probably Google) could give out a phone with 10TB of storage and 100GBps bandwidth for free — provided you agree to allow them to use the extra space and bandwidth on your phone for cloud storage. Essentially you’d become one tiny piece of an infinitely scalable cloud, serviced by the mesh of mobile phones floating around out there. The idea being that, yes, technology is improving faster than consumers can consume it, but someone somewhere will find a use for all of that “extra” computing power, storage space, and bandwidth.

Google = Skynet

I, personally, can’t wait.

[aldante]

I just got a hero touch 2.

You guys are way over my head on this post ….I just wanted to express that I was skecptical about a windows system….I like it pretty well. Syncs better with my computer and I am familier with the look and feel.

Take it for what its worth.

[aldante]

I just got a hero touch 2.

You guys are way over my head on this post ….I just wanted to express that I was skecptical about a windows system….I like it pretty well. Syncs better with my computer and I am familier with the look and feel.

Take it for what its worth.

[aldante]

I just got a hero touch 2.

You guys are way over my head on this post ….I just wanted to express that I was skecptical about a windows system….I like it pretty well. Syncs better with my computer and I am familier with the look and feel.

Take it for what its worth.

[aldante]

I just got a hero touch 2.

You guys are way over my head on this post ….I just wanted to express that I was skecptical about a windows system….I like it pretty well. Syncs better with my computer and I am familier with the look and feel.

Take it for what its worth.

[aldante]

I just got a hero touch 2.

You guys are way over my head on this post ….I just wanted to express that I was skecptical about a windows system….I like it pretty well. Syncs better with my computer and I am familier with the look and feel.

Take it for what its worth.

[evolusd]

I’m a simpleton who just switched from BlackBerry to iPhone 3gs. NEVER looking back to BB. Have had Windows Mobile phones in the past, but the Apple OS just seems so seemless and stable. I can’t stand when things freeze, which rarely happens with my new iPhone.

It’s got it’s disadvantages (no simultaneous apps being the biggest), but they’re all things I can get over. I’m a happy iPhone camper.

[evolusd]

I’m a simpleton who just switched from BlackBerry to iPhone 3gs. NEVER looking back to BB. Have had Windows Mobile phones in the past, but the Apple OS just seems so seemless and stable. I can’t stand when things freeze, which rarely happens with my new iPhone.

It’s got it’s disadvantages (no simultaneous apps being the biggest), but they’re all things I can get over. I’m a happy iPhone camper.

[evolusd]

I’m a simpleton who just switched from BlackBerry to iPhone 3gs. NEVER looking back to BB. Have had Windows Mobile phones in the past, but the Apple OS just seems so seemless and stable. I can’t stand when things freeze, which rarely happens with my new iPhone.

It’s got it’s disadvantages (no simultaneous apps being the biggest), but they’re all things I can get over. I’m a happy iPhone camper.

[evolusd]

I’m a simpleton who just switched from BlackBerry to iPhone 3gs. NEVER looking back to BB. Have had Windows Mobile phones in the past, but the Apple OS just seems so seemless and stable. I can’t stand when things freeze, which rarely happens with my new iPhone.

It’s got it’s disadvantages (no simultaneous apps being the biggest), but they’re all things I can get over. I’m a happy iPhone camper.

[evolusd]

I’m a simpleton who just switched from BlackBerry to iPhone 3gs. NEVER looking back to BB. Have had Windows Mobile phones in the past, but the Apple OS just seems so seemless and stable. I can’t stand when things freeze, which rarely happens with my new iPhone.

It’s got it’s disadvantages (no simultaneous apps being the biggest), but they’re all things I can get over. I’m a happy iPhone camper.

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=AN]Flu, personally, I think the market will be big enough for all of them and having many big players competing will be great for consumers and 3rd party app developers like you and me. I’m enjoying my dessert too.

CDMA ENG, I have no doubt they limit bandwith at opening, but once software start to demand more bandwith, they’ll release it. Imagine streaming HD contents and everything being stored on the “cloud”.[/quote]

Well AN your are assuming that the carriers are holding-out on the customer (at least that is what it sound like your are proposing) in terms of Bandwidth. That is not true. Problem still comes down to a backhaul issue and what the consumer is willing to pay. ATT could give the consumer what they want in terms of bandwidth but they can’t afford it. The software is already demanding it and the carriers don’t like it. This is the crux of the problem.

That is why Verizon is going fiber directly to thier BTS’s. Its cheaper bandwidth on the IP cloud than traditional LEC (local exchange carrier – XO communications and such) backhaul. Clearwire is trying to avoid all LEC activity by building a microwave backhual system but in cities such as SD this is very difficult but the ONLY way they can deliver high data rates at “normal prices”. Currently thier bandwidth requirements are such the business model simply would not work if you had to pay for traditional LEC services. All companies is some form are trying to do something like this but it is extermely difficult from a logistics stand point (zoning big ugly dishes, low antenna hieghts due to clutter, ATTs slow response for new service in certian areas).

Just to give a idea… These device demand for bandwidth look soemthing like f(x)=1/2 X^2… over the last 2 years…

A disturbing trend. Also you need lots of network equipement at the switch level to support this… Equipment that goes idle after 5 PM. Lots of unused after hour equipemnt sitting idle… Carries don’t like this.

Then remember, after all we are PIGGs, that as the demand for a object rise and supply becomes more limited that the price for the object will also rise. I look at capacity charts everyday and

There are some many dynamics to this bandwidith arguement that is difficult to discuss them all.

Sorry for a bit of a ramble…

And AN… the EVDO part of a Lucent base station is also called… The AN… 😛

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=AN]Flu, personally, I think the market will be big enough for all of them and having many big players competing will be great for consumers and 3rd party app developers like you and me. I’m enjoying my dessert too.

CDMA ENG, I have no doubt they limit bandwith at opening, but once software start to demand more bandwith, they’ll release it. Imagine streaming HD contents and everything being stored on the “cloud”.[/quote]

Well AN your are assuming that the carriers are holding-out on the customer (at least that is what it sound like your are proposing) in terms of Bandwidth. That is not true. Problem still comes down to a backhaul issue and what the consumer is willing to pay. ATT could give the consumer what they want in terms of bandwidth but they can’t afford it. The software is already demanding it and the carriers don’t like it. This is the crux of the problem.

That is why Verizon is going fiber directly to thier BTS’s. Its cheaper bandwidth on the IP cloud than traditional LEC (local exchange carrier – XO communications and such) backhaul. Clearwire is trying to avoid all LEC activity by building a microwave backhual system but in cities such as SD this is very difficult but the ONLY way they can deliver high data rates at “normal prices”. Currently thier bandwidth requirements are such the business model simply would not work if you had to pay for traditional LEC services. All companies is some form are trying to do something like this but it is extermely difficult from a logistics stand point (zoning big ugly dishes, low antenna hieghts due to clutter, ATTs slow response for new service in certian areas).

Just to give a idea… These device demand for bandwidth look soemthing like f(x)=1/2 X^2… over the last 2 years…

A disturbing trend. Also you need lots of network equipement at the switch level to support this… Equipment that goes idle after 5 PM. Lots of unused after hour equipemnt sitting idle… Carries don’t like this.

Then remember, after all we are PIGGs, that as the demand for a object rise and supply becomes more limited that the price for the object will also rise. I look at capacity charts everyday and

There are some many dynamics to this bandwidith arguement that is difficult to discuss them all.

Sorry for a bit of a ramble…

And AN… the EVDO part of a Lucent base station is also called… The AN… 😛

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=AN]Flu, personally, I think the market will be big enough for all of them and having many big players competing will be great for consumers and 3rd party app developers like you and me. I’m enjoying my dessert too.

CDMA ENG, I have no doubt they limit bandwith at opening, but once software start to demand more bandwith, they’ll release it. Imagine streaming HD contents and everything being stored on the “cloud”.[/quote]

Well AN your are assuming that the carriers are holding-out on the customer (at least that is what it sound like your are proposing) in terms of Bandwidth. That is not true. Problem still comes down to a backhaul issue and what the consumer is willing to pay. ATT could give the consumer what they want in terms of bandwidth but they can’t afford it. The software is already demanding it and the carriers don’t like it. This is the crux of the problem.

That is why Verizon is going fiber directly to thier BTS’s. Its cheaper bandwidth on the IP cloud than traditional LEC (local exchange carrier – XO communications and such) backhaul. Clearwire is trying to avoid all LEC activity by building a microwave backhual system but in cities such as SD this is very difficult but the ONLY way they can deliver high data rates at “normal prices”. Currently thier bandwidth requirements are such the business model simply would not work if you had to pay for traditional LEC services. All companies is some form are trying to do something like this but it is extermely difficult from a logistics stand point (zoning big ugly dishes, low antenna hieghts due to clutter, ATTs slow response for new service in certian areas).

Just to give a idea… These device demand for bandwidth look soemthing like f(x)=1/2 X^2… over the last 2 years…

A disturbing trend. Also you need lots of network equipement at the switch level to support this… Equipment that goes idle after 5 PM. Lots of unused after hour equipemnt sitting idle… Carries don’t like this.

Then remember, after all we are PIGGs, that as the demand for a object rise and supply becomes more limited that the price for the object will also rise. I look at capacity charts everyday and

There are some many dynamics to this bandwidith arguement that is difficult to discuss them all.

Sorry for a bit of a ramble…

And AN… the EVDO part of a Lucent base station is also called… The AN… 😛

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=AN]Flu, personally, I think the market will be big enough for all of them and having many big players competing will be great for consumers and 3rd party app developers like you and me. I’m enjoying my dessert too.

CDMA ENG, I have no doubt they limit bandwith at opening, but once software start to demand more bandwith, they’ll release it. Imagine streaming HD contents and everything being stored on the “cloud”.[/quote]

Well AN your are assuming that the carriers are holding-out on the customer (at least that is what it sound like your are proposing) in terms of Bandwidth. That is not true. Problem still comes down to a backhaul issue and what the consumer is willing to pay. ATT could give the consumer what they want in terms of bandwidth but they can’t afford it. The software is already demanding it and the carriers don’t like it. This is the crux of the problem.

That is why Verizon is going fiber directly to thier BTS’s. Its cheaper bandwidth on the IP cloud than traditional LEC (local exchange carrier – XO communications and such) backhaul. Clearwire is trying to avoid all LEC activity by building a microwave backhual system but in cities such as SD this is very difficult but the ONLY way they can deliver high data rates at “normal prices”. Currently thier bandwidth requirements are such the business model simply would not work if you had to pay for traditional LEC services. All companies is some form are trying to do something like this but it is extermely difficult from a logistics stand point (zoning big ugly dishes, low antenna hieghts due to clutter, ATTs slow response for new service in certian areas).

Just to give a idea… These device demand for bandwidth look soemthing like f(x)=1/2 X^2… over the last 2 years…

A disturbing trend. Also you need lots of network equipement at the switch level to support this… Equipment that goes idle after 5 PM. Lots of unused after hour equipemnt sitting idle… Carries don’t like this.

Then remember, after all we are PIGGs, that as the demand for a object rise and supply becomes more limited that the price for the object will also rise. I look at capacity charts everyday and

There are some many dynamics to this bandwidith arguement that is difficult to discuss them all.

Sorry for a bit of a ramble…

And AN… the EVDO part of a Lucent base station is also called… The AN… 😛

CE

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