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February 20, 2020 at 5:04 PM #814860February 20, 2020 at 5:16 PM #814861
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Guest[quote=flu]Crow Soft Tacos for 2
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Who’s talking doom and gloom?
I’m glad you already eviscerated the argument that Bernie will result in doom and gloom. Keep at it. Prosperity will go on as usual.
This thread is about political candidates, and you barge in accusing people of doom and gloom. On the contrary, my dear. Whoever one may support, one does so because one believes the new candidate would be an all around improvement to the guy we have now.
February 20, 2020 at 5:55 PM #814862Anonymous
GuestJust picked up a few boxes of Crow Scout cookies. Darn sweet tooth
February 20, 2020 at 6:00 PM #814863Guest[quote=Spdrumb]Just picked up a few boxes of Crow Scout cookies. Darn sweet tooth[/quote]
What exactly are you crowing about?
February 20, 2020 at 6:23 PM #814864spdrun
ParticipantLOL this is why FIRE is actually a problem.
(Lean)FIRE isn’t a problem — it’s the solution. Consume less, Mother Gaia will thank you.
February 21, 2020 at 5:05 AM #814865
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Spdrumb]Just picked up a few boxes of Crow Scout cookies. Darn sweet tooth[/quote]
Was that a box of Thin Crow Mint or Samoas Crow Crisp ?
Yum Yum. Forgot one dish…
Green Eggs and Crow
I am Joe. I am Joe. Joe the Crow.
That Joe and crows. That crows and Joe. I do like to eat crows, Joe the Crow.
Do you like Green Eggs and crow?
I do like them, crows for Joe.
I do like green eggs and crows.Would you like them here o there?
I like them here or there.
I like them when I think a recession is near.
I like them when I short Tesla-e..
But then I bend over when I get severely short squeezed.
I do like green eggs and crow.
I would like them Joe the Crow.Would you like them in a house?
Would you like them with a mouse?
I would like them in short sales house.
But I waited too long to buy because I was a scared mouse.
I do like them anywhere.
I do like green eggs and crow.
I would like them Joe the Crow.Would you eat them in a box?
Would you eat them with a fox?Yes in a box, yes with a fox.
In a house, with a mouse.
I would eat them here or there.
I would eat a crow anywhere.
I do like green eggs and crow.
I would like them Joe the Crow.Would you, could you? In a car? Eat them, eat them. Here they are. You may like them. You will see. You make like them in a tree.
I would ya, could ya, in a car.I would ya, could ya in a tree. As long as Bernie gave it to me for free, and included a free Starbuck Frappie along with a free college degree.
I like them in a box.
I like them with a fox.
I like them with a house.
I like them with a mouse.
I like them here or there.
I’ll eat a crow everywhere.
I do like green eggs and crow.
I like them, Joe the Crow.February 21, 2020 at 7:02 AM #814867ltsddd
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]LOL this is why FIRE is actually a problem.
Your meant to pursue happiness not achieve it.
Else who is going to keep everything running.[/quote]
If pursuing happiness is your goal then FIRE is certainly one way that would allow you to do so.
For many people work != happiness – it just simply pay the fvcking bills.
February 21, 2020 at 7:42 AM #814868CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsdd][quote=The-Shoveler]LOL this is why FIRE is actually a problem.
Your meant to pursue happiness not achieve it.
Else who is going to keep everything running.[/quote]
If pursuing happiness is your goal then FIRE is certainly one way that would allow you to do so.
For many people work != happiness – it just simply pay the fvcking bills.[/quote]
Imho that’s pretty sad. I never understood why people feel compelled to get stuck in something they hate doing. it’s like getting stuck in a bad relationship only worse. It’s at least 5 days 8 hours a day.
I think there is a misconception that if one quits and does nothing at all , it will solve everything. For a lot of people , staying home and doing nothing would be eternal boredom. I like going to work to see people and talk to people. Second, if you’re working whether it’s at a job or your on biz, you always have a boss. it’s either a physical boss or a bunch of customers. So the real question is which “boss” is the most that’s most tolerable.
And then there is a price of convenience of being an employee versus running your own business. and that depends on what industry you are in. For example. At one point it made sense to be an independent contractor in tech. not as much anymore, it depends on what you do and how specialized you are.
For example IT support and help desk, the markets is getting smaller and smaller to do a small shop computer support specialist shops. You don’t need to hire someone with a college degree to do some basic maintenance these days. People I know hire a bunch of bright high school students. Did you know that for example that at Canyon Crest Academy, they have a high school CS program that by the time you graduate from CCA, you are better prepared for the CS/IT world than many people that graduate from college? On the other hand, due to various difficultly in obtaining work visas, anyone with any decent mobile experience has virtual very little competition in San Diego. If you’re in this category, why deal with all the paperwork of a gig economy if you are a mobile guy with a 4 year degree and some experience and a company offers you close to $200k+ comp packages with medical, dental, etc etc etc and can’t push you to work more than 40-50hours these days, why not?. I mean, it’s tough for people like me that needs to poach good people from other companies, or for me to support a “remote friendly” work environment where I’m even evaluating whether we need the expense of maintaining a physical office considering mant people work remotely much of the time… but if you have this skill set I’d say milk it while you can. For as long as you can. Since it’s a pretty fine arrangement right now. What they said about restricting work visas was true I was completely wrong. it actually does improve the job market and financial situation for US and permanent residence. I take what I said back before about them. and when people here have jobs and are paid well, people spend … Definitely been an eye opener for me. I will never hire a H1-B again without having at least a comparable position available for an American worker….another life experience I wouldn’t have realized if I didn’t “work”
February 21, 2020 at 8:30 AM #814869ParticipantYou’re projecting it from where you’re sitting. Try to take a moment and imagine those who toil in low-paying, manual work and let me know if they’re pursuing “happiness”. The high-paying tech sector is just that, one sector of the economy – not everyone gets paid a hefty 6-figure salary for spending half their day at work surfing the internet.
Oh…many people people I know that quit (retired from) their jobs are not sitting around at home. They all do enjoy the fact that their vacations can be as long as they want it to be and they can extend it on a whim and don’t have to worry a thing….while pursuing their happiness.
February 21, 2020 at 9:24 AM #814870CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsdd]You’re projecting it from where you’re sitting. Try to take a moment and imagine those who toil in low-paying, manual work and let me know if they’re pursuing “happiness”. The high-paying tech sector is just that, one sector of the economy – not everyone gets paid a hefty 6-figure salary for spending half their day at work surfing the internet.
Oh…many people people I know that quit (retired from) their jobs are not sitting around at home. They all do enjoy the fact that their vacations can be as long as they want it to be and they can extend it on a whim and don’t have to worry a thing….while pursuing their happiness.[/quote]
Maybe, but low paying job and San Diego or most of the west coast does not compute. That’s the problem. People in a low paying job in SoCal just starting out, can’t afford home ownership and can barely make it affording the rent. FIRE isn’t going to work. They need to move to a lower cost area/state. The burn rate from housing alone is a lot. That’s just reality. The California economy along the coastline and the general costs associated with living along the coast is just not conducive for family counting on minimum wage/low paying jobs. That might have worked years ago when the cost of housing didn’t spiral up like it did. But it did. Short of being on federal and state subsidies, you’re hurting if you have have no subsidies and you have a low paying job here in this state because of all the fees and taxes and costs associated just to stay afloat. Take something as simple as transportation. It’s expensive for a normal middle class family just to operate and maintain a car, and in CA, not having a car is virtually not an option for most people who need to go to a job. That’s just reality. And that’s also the problem. CA can only attract people out of state who can work in those high pay and high paying jobs. In many ways, those people are BETTER being in this state versus everywhere else, because those higher paying jobs/professions generally can weather the higher costs of being here as those salaries/comps are generally tracking slightly better the increasing cost of living in CA versus other professions (not completely, but closer). That’s why we haven’t seen a massive net outflow of jobs. If you look at some of the statistics, some of the higher wage earners are moving from out state into CA where they can make more. New Jersey is one such state losing a lot of profssionals to CA.
Meanwhile, middle class in lower paying jobs will continue to be squeezed out because their costs are going up, but their future wage earning prospects are going down. These are the families leaving the state. All these payment processing, medical billing, dental billing, clerical jobs are already been transitioning out of San Diego into lower cost states because those jobs don’t really require that much special skills and can be done by people in a low cost states. San Diego use to have a pretty large number of companies that did such work.February 21, 2020 at 9:39 AM #814871GuestI am Brian! Brian-I-am!
That FLU-I-am! That FLU-I-am! I do not like that FLU-I-am!
February 21, 2020 at 10:22 AM #814872The-Shoveler
Participant[quote=ltsdd][quote=The-Shoveler]LOL this is why FIRE is actually a problem.
Your meant to pursue happiness not achieve it.
Else who is going to keep everything running.[/quote]
If pursuing happiness is your goal then FIRE is certainly one way that would allow you to do so.
For many people work != happiness – it just simply pay the fvcking bills.[/quote]
LOL I think you guys missed my point entirely,
It not about you being happy (or anyone’s happiness), it’s about having the best and brightest remain in the work force not walking on some beach.
While the remaining (not so bright) screw up everything trying to keep everything up and running LOL.
February 21, 2020 at 11:14 AM #814873CoronitaParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=ltsdd][quote=The-Shoveler]LOL this is why FIRE is actually a problem.
Your meant to pursue happiness not achieve it.
Else who is going to keep everything running.[/quote]
If pursuing happiness is your goal then FIRE is certainly one way that would allow you to do so.
For many people work != happiness – it just simply pay the fvcking bills.[/quote]
LOL I think you guys missed my point entirely,
It not about you being happy (or anyone’s happiness), it’s about having the best and brightest remain in the work force not walking on some beach.
While the remaining (not so bright) screw up everything trying to keep everything up and running LOL.[/quote]
I look at it differently….because we have all the not so bright trying to run things at a cheaper cost, things eventually do get screwed up…royally….
And that creates opportunity for people like me and the people I work with to clean up the mess that most other people screw up, which ends up costing a heck of lot more money for them to fix because they end up having to pay a lot more people a lot more money both undo the original screw up and to build whatever they were trying to build.
February 21, 2020 at 2:27 PM #814874CoronitaParticipanthttps://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html
I always said the best way for Russia to ruin America wasn’t just to influence putting one extreme Trump in office. I always said it was to influence the outcomes to constantly put one different extreme after the other to stir up internal conflict in the US.
It will be interesting to see how Bernie supporters spin Russian interferance as “not happening” or “didn’t happen” lol.
February 21, 2020 at 4:41 PM #814875Guest[quote=flu]https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html
I always said the best way for Russia to ruin America wasn’t just to influence putting one extreme Trump in office. I always said it was to influence the outcomes to constantly put one different extreme after the other to stir up internal conflict in the US.
It will be interesting to see how Bernie supporters spin Russian interferance as “not happening” or “didn’t happen” lol.[/quote]
Does it mean Russia is winning? Trump is in power and what is he doing? He’s accusing Ukraine.
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