OT: Wealth Redistribution Experiment

[tc]

So your brother gets unemployment now.

[sd_bear]

[quote=GoUSC]

My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]

Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.

[sd_bear]

[quote=GoUSC]

My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]

Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.

[sd_bear]

[quote=GoUSC]

My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]

Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.

[sd_bear]

[quote=GoUSC]

My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]

Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.

[sd_bear]

[quote=GoUSC]

My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]

Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.

[DWCAP]

[quote=MANmom]Just what is it about human nature that some people feel that they have a right to take what I have worked hard for and give it to someone else? Kind of like the great idea that all of us should have to pay for someone else’s bad decision to buy a house they knew they could not afford…we all knew this was coming. Some people just won’t take personal responsibility for anything.[/quote]

It isnt about that at all. The issue is that these types of people see a public need and want to make life better. They always are able to see what their actions provide, but never what it costs. Obama, the democrats, and most of their supporters have two points of contention for those who support the system the most.

1) You can afford it.
You make alot of money (alot being subjective) and will have to sacrifice only luxeries to pay the higher taxes. So what if your vacation is to Florida instead of Fiji, you still get a vacation right? Some people dont get vacations, so be glad we are not taking more.

2) Everyone has basic rights, and it is GOV’s job to expand those basic rights.
They see all the great things they can do, no matter if it is a really expensive (insert social “reconstruction” ideal here) or not. Any way it goes, they see a need and intend on filling it. If they have to fill it with your money, then that is no big deal, they always can fall back onto point #1 above. Remember, they are making things ‘better’ and will never see the costs their “improvements” really have.

[DWCAP]

[quote=MANmom]Just what is it about human nature that some people feel that they have a right to take what I have worked hard for and give it to someone else? Kind of like the great idea that all of us should have to pay for someone else’s bad decision to buy a house they knew they could not afford…we all knew this was coming. Some people just won’t take personal responsibility for anything.[/quote]

It isnt about that at all. The issue is that these types of people see a public need and want to make life better. They always are able to see what their actions provide, but never what it costs. Obama, the democrats, and most of their supporters have two points of contention for those who support the system the most.

1) You can afford it.
You make alot of money (alot being subjective) and will have to sacrifice only luxeries to pay the higher taxes. So what if your vacation is to Florida instead of Fiji, you still get a vacation right? Some people dont get vacations, so be glad we are not taking more.

2) Everyone has basic rights, and it is GOV’s job to expand those basic rights.
They see all the great things they can do, no matter if it is a really expensive (insert social “reconstruction” ideal here) or not. Any way it goes, they see a need and intend on filling it. If they have to fill it with your money, then that is no big deal, they always can fall back onto point #1 above. Remember, they are making things ‘better’ and will never see the costs their “improvements” really have.

[DWCAP]

[quote=MANmom]Just what is it about human nature that some people feel that they have a right to take what I have worked hard for and give it to someone else? Kind of like the great idea that all of us should have to pay for someone else’s bad decision to buy a house they knew they could not afford…we all knew this was coming. Some people just won’t take personal responsibility for anything.[/quote]

It isnt about that at all. The issue is that these types of people see a public need and want to make life better. They always are able to see what their actions provide, but never what it costs. Obama, the democrats, and most of their supporters have two points of contention for those who support the system the most.

1) You can afford it.
You make alot of money (alot being subjective) and will have to sacrifice only luxeries to pay the higher taxes. So what if your vacation is to Florida instead of Fiji, you still get a vacation right? Some people dont get vacations, so be glad we are not taking more.

2) Everyone has basic rights, and it is GOV’s job to expand those basic rights.
They see all the great things they can do, no matter if it is a really expensive (insert social “reconstruction” ideal here) or not. Any way it goes, they see a need and intend on filling it. If they have to fill it with your money, then that is no big deal, they always can fall back onto point #1 above. Remember, they are making things ‘better’ and will never see the costs their “improvements” really have.

[DWCAP]

[quote=MANmom]Just what is it about human nature that some people feel that they have a right to take what I have worked hard for and give it to someone else? Kind of like the great idea that all of us should have to pay for someone else’s bad decision to buy a house they knew they could not afford…we all knew this was coming. Some people just won’t take personal responsibility for anything.[/quote]

It isnt about that at all. The issue is that these types of people see a public need and want to make life better. They always are able to see what their actions provide, but never what it costs. Obama, the democrats, and most of their supporters have two points of contention for those who support the system the most.

1) You can afford it.
You make alot of money (alot being subjective) and will have to sacrifice only luxeries to pay the higher taxes. So what if your vacation is to Florida instead of Fiji, you still get a vacation right? Some people dont get vacations, so be glad we are not taking more.

2) Everyone has basic rights, and it is GOV’s job to expand those basic rights.
They see all the great things they can do, no matter if it is a really expensive (insert social “reconstruction” ideal here) or not. Any way it goes, they see a need and intend on filling it. If they have to fill it with your money, then that is no big deal, they always can fall back onto point #1 above. Remember, they are making things ‘better’ and will never see the costs their “improvements” really have.

[DWCAP]

[quote=MANmom]Just what is it about human nature that some people feel that they have a right to take what I have worked hard for and give it to someone else? Kind of like the great idea that all of us should have to pay for someone else’s bad decision to buy a house they knew they could not afford…we all knew this was coming. Some people just won’t take personal responsibility for anything.[/quote]

It isnt about that at all. The issue is that these types of people see a public need and want to make life better. They always are able to see what their actions provide, but never what it costs. Obama, the democrats, and most of their supporters have two points of contention for those who support the system the most.

1) You can afford it.
You make alot of money (alot being subjective) and will have to sacrifice only luxeries to pay the higher taxes. So what if your vacation is to Florida instead of Fiji, you still get a vacation right? Some people dont get vacations, so be glad we are not taking more.

2) Everyone has basic rights, and it is GOV’s job to expand those basic rights.
They see all the great things they can do, no matter if it is a really expensive (insert social “reconstruction” ideal here) or not. Any way it goes, they see a need and intend on filling it. If they have to fill it with your money, then that is no big deal, they always can fall back onto point #1 above. Remember, they are making things ‘better’ and will never see the costs their “improvements” really have.

[underdose]

Full disclosure: I am a staunch republican in the libertarian sense. I strongly oppose Obama’s socialistic bent.

I will still vote for Obama. Neither candidate wants free markets. McCain stands for more of the same as the Bush administration has given us: deficit spending, sneaky taxation through monetary debasement, expanding militarism, suppression of civil rights, and appointment of complete incompetents (Michael Brown, etc.) to important posts (Sarah Palin).

All the criticisms of Obama are well founded. Those points do not make the valid criticisms of McCain as a horribly inferior alternative any less valid. The point made above that Bush (and McCain) would give the tip directly to the restaurant owner is spot on, except not extreme enough. The tip would go to the owner of the horribly mismanaged restaurant down the street with lousy food and worse fiscal savvy. Of course, this failing restauranteur would be great friends with McCain and would give McCain $1 out of every $5 received…

I’ve heard it put best: I did not leave the republican party; the republican party left me.

[underdose]

Full disclosure: I am a staunch republican in the libertarian sense. I strongly oppose Obama’s socialistic bent.

I will still vote for Obama. Neither candidate wants free markets. McCain stands for more of the same as the Bush administration has given us: deficit spending, sneaky taxation through monetary debasement, expanding militarism, suppression of civil rights, and appointment of complete incompetents (Michael Brown, etc.) to important posts (Sarah Palin).

All the criticisms of Obama are well founded. Those points do not make the valid criticisms of McCain as a horribly inferior alternative any less valid. The point made above that Bush (and McCain) would give the tip directly to the restaurant owner is spot on, except not extreme enough. The tip would go to the owner of the horribly mismanaged restaurant down the street with lousy food and worse fiscal savvy. Of course, this failing restauranteur would be great friends with McCain and would give McCain $1 out of every $5 received…

I’ve heard it put best: I did not leave the republican party; the republican party left me.

[underdose]

Full disclosure: I am a staunch republican in the libertarian sense. I strongly oppose Obama’s socialistic bent.

I will still vote for Obama. Neither candidate wants free markets. McCain stands for more of the same as the Bush administration has given us: deficit spending, sneaky taxation through monetary debasement, expanding militarism, suppression of civil rights, and appointment of complete incompetents (Michael Brown, etc.) to important posts (Sarah Palin).

All the criticisms of Obama are well founded. Those points do not make the valid criticisms of McCain as a horribly inferior alternative any less valid. The point made above that Bush (and McCain) would give the tip directly to the restaurant owner is spot on, except not extreme enough. The tip would go to the owner of the horribly mismanaged restaurant down the street with lousy food and worse fiscal savvy. Of course, this failing restauranteur would be great friends with McCain and would give McCain $1 out of every $5 received…

I’ve heard it put best: I did not leave the republican party; the republican party left me.

[underdose]

Full disclosure: I am a staunch republican in the libertarian sense. I strongly oppose Obama’s socialistic bent.

I will still vote for Obama. Neither candidate wants free markets. McCain stands for more of the same as the Bush administration has given us: deficit spending, sneaky taxation through monetary debasement, expanding militarism, suppression of civil rights, and appointment of complete incompetents (Michael Brown, etc.) to important posts (Sarah Palin).

All the criticisms of Obama are well founded. Those points do not make the valid criticisms of McCain as a horribly inferior alternative any less valid. The point made above that Bush (and McCain) would give the tip directly to the restaurant owner is spot on, except not extreme enough. The tip would go to the owner of the horribly mismanaged restaurant down the street with lousy food and worse fiscal savvy. Of course, this failing restauranteur would be great friends with McCain and would give McCain $1 out of every $5 received…

I’ve heard it put best: I did not leave the republican party; the republican party left me.

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