OT: Toyota statements “misleading and inaccurate”

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[quote=scaredycat]cars suck[/quote]
Cars lack the equipment.
I say cars blow.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte]Wow, Flu.

Thanks for pointing out that the American company, Ford, went the extra mile and stopped production BEFORE a single defect was found in their gas pedals! Which, by the way, are NOT necessarily the same design as the Toyota pedals…they just wanted to be super safe.

They didn’t, like Toyota did, hide or ignore potential pedal problems for YEARS.

You also missed the article, on the same site you quote, that states NHTSA opened an investigation into Toyota unintended acceleration back in 2004 but then dropped it when they decided to limit their investigation to acceleration instances of one second or less (!!!) and therefore eliminated many of the complaints….this one-second-or-less limitation was implemented the same week that NHTSA employee Chris Santucci took a job with Toyota.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/28/did-nhtsa-know-of-toyota-woes-back-in-2004/

Coincidence?

And I would like to reiterate my point: Toyota is no better than any other car company in terms of quality or ethics – a point that seems entirely wasted on a large swath of Toyota worshippers.[/quote]

Actually, svelte, my point was exactly directed at those Toyota bashers who seemingly enjoy bashing Toyota for being “foreign”. And I’ll reiterate this again, the complexity involved in a building a vehicle is such that lines between foreign and domestic and a source of “defect” can be pin-pointed to one entity or make/model. And it remains to be seen who else is going to be added to this recall list, considering CTS is a supplier not just for Toyota or Ford. I’ve never owned/leased a Toyota btw.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte]Wow, Flu.

Thanks for pointing out that the American company, Ford, went the extra mile and stopped production BEFORE a single defect was found in their gas pedals! Which, by the way, are NOT necessarily the same design as the Toyota pedals…they just wanted to be super safe.

They didn’t, like Toyota did, hide or ignore potential pedal problems for YEARS.

You also missed the article, on the same site you quote, that states NHTSA opened an investigation into Toyota unintended acceleration back in 2004 but then dropped it when they decided to limit their investigation to acceleration instances of one second or less (!!!) and therefore eliminated many of the complaints….this one-second-or-less limitation was implemented the same week that NHTSA employee Chris Santucci took a job with Toyota.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/28/did-nhtsa-know-of-toyota-woes-back-in-2004/

Coincidence?

And I would like to reiterate my point: Toyota is no better than any other car company in terms of quality or ethics – a point that seems entirely wasted on a large swath of Toyota worshippers.[/quote]

Actually, svelte, my point was exactly directed at those Toyota bashers who seemingly enjoy bashing Toyota for being “foreign”. And I’ll reiterate this again, the complexity involved in a building a vehicle is such that lines between foreign and domestic and a source of “defect” can be pin-pointed to one entity or make/model. And it remains to be seen who else is going to be added to this recall list, considering CTS is a supplier not just for Toyota or Ford. I’ve never owned/leased a Toyota btw.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte]Wow, Flu.

Thanks for pointing out that the American company, Ford, went the extra mile and stopped production BEFORE a single defect was found in their gas pedals! Which, by the way, are NOT necessarily the same design as the Toyota pedals…they just wanted to be super safe.

They didn’t, like Toyota did, hide or ignore potential pedal problems for YEARS.

You also missed the article, on the same site you quote, that states NHTSA opened an investigation into Toyota unintended acceleration back in 2004 but then dropped it when they decided to limit their investigation to acceleration instances of one second or less (!!!) and therefore eliminated many of the complaints….this one-second-or-less limitation was implemented the same week that NHTSA employee Chris Santucci took a job with Toyota.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/28/did-nhtsa-know-of-toyota-woes-back-in-2004/

Coincidence?

And I would like to reiterate my point: Toyota is no better than any other car company in terms of quality or ethics – a point that seems entirely wasted on a large swath of Toyota worshippers.[/quote]

Actually, svelte, my point was exactly directed at those Toyota bashers who seemingly enjoy bashing Toyota for being “foreign”. And I’ll reiterate this again, the complexity involved in a building a vehicle is such that lines between foreign and domestic and a source of “defect” can be pin-pointed to one entity or make/model. And it remains to be seen who else is going to be added to this recall list, considering CTS is a supplier not just for Toyota or Ford. I’ve never owned/leased a Toyota btw.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte]Wow, Flu.

Thanks for pointing out that the American company, Ford, went the extra mile and stopped production BEFORE a single defect was found in their gas pedals! Which, by the way, are NOT necessarily the same design as the Toyota pedals…they just wanted to be super safe.

They didn’t, like Toyota did, hide or ignore potential pedal problems for YEARS.

You also missed the article, on the same site you quote, that states NHTSA opened an investigation into Toyota unintended acceleration back in 2004 but then dropped it when they decided to limit their investigation to acceleration instances of one second or less (!!!) and therefore eliminated many of the complaints….this one-second-or-less limitation was implemented the same week that NHTSA employee Chris Santucci took a job with Toyota.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/28/did-nhtsa-know-of-toyota-woes-back-in-2004/

Coincidence?

And I would like to reiterate my point: Toyota is no better than any other car company in terms of quality or ethics – a point that seems entirely wasted on a large swath of Toyota worshippers.[/quote]

Actually, svelte, my point was exactly directed at those Toyota bashers who seemingly enjoy bashing Toyota for being “foreign”. And I’ll reiterate this again, the complexity involved in a building a vehicle is such that lines between foreign and domestic and a source of “defect” can be pin-pointed to one entity or make/model. And it remains to be seen who else is going to be added to this recall list, considering CTS is a supplier not just for Toyota or Ford. I’ve never owned/leased a Toyota btw.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte]Wow, Flu.

Thanks for pointing out that the American company, Ford, went the extra mile and stopped production BEFORE a single defect was found in their gas pedals! Which, by the way, are NOT necessarily the same design as the Toyota pedals…they just wanted to be super safe.

They didn’t, like Toyota did, hide or ignore potential pedal problems for YEARS.

You also missed the article, on the same site you quote, that states NHTSA opened an investigation into Toyota unintended acceleration back in 2004 but then dropped it when they decided to limit their investigation to acceleration instances of one second or less (!!!) and therefore eliminated many of the complaints….this one-second-or-less limitation was implemented the same week that NHTSA employee Chris Santucci took a job with Toyota.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/28/did-nhtsa-know-of-toyota-woes-back-in-2004/

Coincidence?

And I would like to reiterate my point: Toyota is no better than any other car company in terms of quality or ethics – a point that seems entirely wasted on a large swath of Toyota worshippers.[/quote]

Actually, svelte, my point was exactly directed at those Toyota bashers who seemingly enjoy bashing Toyota for being “foreign”. And I’ll reiterate this again, the complexity involved in a building a vehicle is such that lines between foreign and domestic and a source of “defect” can be pin-pointed to one entity or make/model. And it remains to be seen who else is going to be added to this recall list, considering CTS is a supplier not just for Toyota or Ford. I’ve never owned/leased a Toyota btw.

[Aecetia]

WASHINGTON – Federal regulators have opened an investigation into complaints that power steering systems in the Chevrolet Cobalt can fail, making it more difficult to control the car. Not that any Piggs have this kind of car, but the fact is there are a lot of manufacturing defects out there and Toyota makes a pretty good product overall.US probes Chevy Cobalt steering complaints from yahoo.com today.

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[Aecetia]

WASHINGTON – Federal regulators have opened an investigation into complaints that power steering systems in the Chevrolet Cobalt can fail, making it more difficult to control the car. Not that any Piggs have this kind of car, but the fact is there are a lot of manufacturing defects out there and Toyota makes a pretty good product overall.US probes Chevy Cobalt steering complaints from yahoo.com today.

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[Aecetia]

WASHINGTON – Federal regulators have opened an investigation into complaints that power steering systems in the Chevrolet Cobalt can fail, making it more difficult to control the car. Not that any Piggs have this kind of car, but the fact is there are a lot of manufacturing defects out there and Toyota makes a pretty good product overall.US probes Chevy Cobalt steering complaints from yahoo.com today.

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[Aecetia]

WASHINGTON – Federal regulators have opened an investigation into complaints that power steering systems in the Chevrolet Cobalt can fail, making it more difficult to control the car. Not that any Piggs have this kind of car, but the fact is there are a lot of manufacturing defects out there and Toyota makes a pretty good product overall.US probes Chevy Cobalt steering complaints from yahoo.com today.

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[Aecetia]

WASHINGTON – Federal regulators have opened an investigation into complaints that power steering systems in the Chevrolet Cobalt can fail, making it more difficult to control the car. Not that any Piggs have this kind of car, but the fact is there are a lot of manufacturing defects out there and Toyota makes a pretty good product overall.US probes Chevy Cobalt steering complaints from yahoo.com today.

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[Coronita]

I wish car companies would get back to building…um… cars… Instead of building entertainment systems on wheels..

Too much damn electronics, too many bells and whistles….

Keyless entry, panoramic sunroofs, multiple dvd units in headrests, navigation systems, MMI interfaces. Electronic controlled shifter….Utter useless bunch of crap.

Mercedes Benz takes the cake on electronic craptacular.

[Coronita]

I wish car companies would get back to building…um… cars… Instead of building entertainment systems on wheels..

Too much damn electronics, too many bells and whistles….

Keyless entry, panoramic sunroofs, multiple dvd units in headrests, navigation systems, MMI interfaces. Electronic controlled shifter….Utter useless bunch of crap.

Mercedes Benz takes the cake on electronic craptacular.

[Coronita]

I wish car companies would get back to building…um… cars… Instead of building entertainment systems on wheels..

Too much damn electronics, too many bells and whistles….

Keyless entry, panoramic sunroofs, multiple dvd units in headrests, navigation systems, MMI interfaces. Electronic controlled shifter….Utter useless bunch of crap.

Mercedes Benz takes the cake on electronic craptacular.

[Coronita]

I wish car companies would get back to building…um… cars… Instead of building entertainment systems on wheels..

Too much damn electronics, too many bells and whistles….

Keyless entry, panoramic sunroofs, multiple dvd units in headrests, navigation systems, MMI interfaces. Electronic controlled shifter….Utter useless bunch of crap.

Mercedes Benz takes the cake on electronic craptacular.

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