OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car….

[Eugene]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
The Z06 Corvette not only outperformed the Porsche 911 on the skid pad, but it’s actually smaller (no, really, it is!). The ‘Vette not only outperforms the 911, it does it for half the price.

That Pontiac G8 is a giant killer, too. A buddy of mine tried out the GT edition and said it screams. So, of course, Pontiac gets the axe.[/quote]

To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.

Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.

Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]

Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.

Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]

Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.

Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]

Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.

Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]

Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.

Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]

Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.

[masayako]

Pontiac should have been axed long long time ago. GM sucks. They deserve to go backrupt.

[masayako]

Pontiac should have been axed long long time ago. GM sucks. They deserve to go backrupt.

[masayako]

Pontiac should have been axed long long time ago. GM sucks. They deserve to go backrupt.

[masayako]

Pontiac should have been axed long long time ago. GM sucks. They deserve to go backrupt.

[masayako]

Pontiac should have been axed long long time ago. GM sucks. They deserve to go backrupt.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
That’s stock too…Plenty of ways to mod that beyond. Though, I think anything above 400hp for me, and I’ll end up wrapping it around a pole.

I’m preferring the G8 GXP because it’s the only thing GM has reasonably priced with a killer specs that can fit a child seat.

I’m coming to a sad realization as much as I like the Audi S5, it’s just overpriced for what it offers. It’s a 335 performance at an M3 or C63 price.

Well, I’m off car shopping via the internet to help stimulate the GDP. Wish me luck.[/quote]
That LS engine is a monster w/ mods. you’ll never have enough HP. I though 300HP was enough before, but now, it feels slow, hehe.

S5 is totally overpriced. However, there’s rumor that the future S4 will be priced similar to a 335i. They’re also axing all the 3.2L V6 Audi too.[/quote]

AN/FLU: Quick story about horsepower. My dad was an aerospace engineer for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto. The building next to his was SVO (Special Vehicle Operations) and was filled with crazed gearheads. I had recently purchased a 1969 Mustang Mach I with a 351 Cleveland, but had also bought a 428 Police Interceptor block (with the four bolt main) out of a trashed Ford police cruiser.

Along with a friend’s older brother, who worked at Penske, the engineers at Ford SVO built an absolute monster engine. Holley 600 double pumper on a Weiand Tunnel Ram manifold bored 30 over, this thing dyno’ed out at 430hp. I could smoke ’em through all four gears and went zero to 60 in about seven seconds. This thing would routinely stomp Porsches on the straightaway. The only car that ever smoked me off the line was a 1970 Cuda with a 426 Race Hemi running a blower. That just don’t make cars like that anymore.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
That’s stock too…Plenty of ways to mod that beyond. Though, I think anything above 400hp for me, and I’ll end up wrapping it around a pole.

I’m preferring the G8 GXP because it’s the only thing GM has reasonably priced with a killer specs that can fit a child seat.

I’m coming to a sad realization as much as I like the Audi S5, it’s just overpriced for what it offers. It’s a 335 performance at an M3 or C63 price.

Well, I’m off car shopping via the internet to help stimulate the GDP. Wish me luck.[/quote]
That LS engine is a monster w/ mods. you’ll never have enough HP. I though 300HP was enough before, but now, it feels slow, hehe.

S5 is totally overpriced. However, there’s rumor that the future S4 will be priced similar to a 335i. They’re also axing all the 3.2L V6 Audi too.[/quote]

AN/FLU: Quick story about horsepower. My dad was an aerospace engineer for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto. The building next to his was SVO (Special Vehicle Operations) and was filled with crazed gearheads. I had recently purchased a 1969 Mustang Mach I with a 351 Cleveland, but had also bought a 428 Police Interceptor block (with the four bolt main) out of a trashed Ford police cruiser.

Along with a friend’s older brother, who worked at Penske, the engineers at Ford SVO built an absolute monster engine. Holley 600 double pumper on a Weiand Tunnel Ram manifold bored 30 over, this thing dyno’ed out at 430hp. I could smoke ’em through all four gears and went zero to 60 in about seven seconds. This thing would routinely stomp Porsches on the straightaway. The only car that ever smoked me off the line was a 1970 Cuda with a 426 Race Hemi running a blower. That just don’t make cars like that anymore.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
That’s stock too…Plenty of ways to mod that beyond. Though, I think anything above 400hp for me, and I’ll end up wrapping it around a pole.

I’m preferring the G8 GXP because it’s the only thing GM has reasonably priced with a killer specs that can fit a child seat.

I’m coming to a sad realization as much as I like the Audi S5, it’s just overpriced for what it offers. It’s a 335 performance at an M3 or C63 price.

Well, I’m off car shopping via the internet to help stimulate the GDP. Wish me luck.[/quote]
That LS engine is a monster w/ mods. you’ll never have enough HP. I though 300HP was enough before, but now, it feels slow, hehe.

S5 is totally overpriced. However, there’s rumor that the future S4 will be priced similar to a 335i. They’re also axing all the 3.2L V6 Audi too.[/quote]

AN/FLU: Quick story about horsepower. My dad was an aerospace engineer for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto. The building next to his was SVO (Special Vehicle Operations) and was filled with crazed gearheads. I had recently purchased a 1969 Mustang Mach I with a 351 Cleveland, but had also bought a 428 Police Interceptor block (with the four bolt main) out of a trashed Ford police cruiser.

Along with a friend’s older brother, who worked at Penske, the engineers at Ford SVO built an absolute monster engine. Holley 600 double pumper on a Weiand Tunnel Ram manifold bored 30 over, this thing dyno’ed out at 430hp. I could smoke ’em through all four gears and went zero to 60 in about seven seconds. This thing would routinely stomp Porsches on the straightaway. The only car that ever smoked me off the line was a 1970 Cuda with a 426 Race Hemi running a blower. That just don’t make cars like that anymore.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
That’s stock too…Plenty of ways to mod that beyond. Though, I think anything above 400hp for me, and I’ll end up wrapping it around a pole.

I’m preferring the G8 GXP because it’s the only thing GM has reasonably priced with a killer specs that can fit a child seat.

I’m coming to a sad realization as much as I like the Audi S5, it’s just overpriced for what it offers. It’s a 335 performance at an M3 or C63 price.

Well, I’m off car shopping via the internet to help stimulate the GDP. Wish me luck.[/quote]
That LS engine is a monster w/ mods. you’ll never have enough HP. I though 300HP was enough before, but now, it feels slow, hehe.

S5 is totally overpriced. However, there’s rumor that the future S4 will be priced similar to a 335i. They’re also axing all the 3.2L V6 Audi too.[/quote]

AN/FLU: Quick story about horsepower. My dad was an aerospace engineer for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto. The building next to his was SVO (Special Vehicle Operations) and was filled with crazed gearheads. I had recently purchased a 1969 Mustang Mach I with a 351 Cleveland, but had also bought a 428 Police Interceptor block (with the four bolt main) out of a trashed Ford police cruiser.

Along with a friend’s older brother, who worked at Penske, the engineers at Ford SVO built an absolute monster engine. Holley 600 double pumper on a Weiand Tunnel Ram manifold bored 30 over, this thing dyno’ed out at 430hp. I could smoke ’em through all four gears and went zero to 60 in about seven seconds. This thing would routinely stomp Porsches on the straightaway. The only car that ever smoked me off the line was a 1970 Cuda with a 426 Race Hemi running a blower. That just don’t make cars like that anymore.

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