OT: Republican Party, moderates need not apply

[ocrenter]

Wow, Sen Arlen Specter just switched sides. Another nail to the coffin of the GOP. If you are a moderate Republican, is there still a reason to stay a Republican?

[mike92104]

He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.

[mike92104]

He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.

[mike92104]

He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.

[mike92104]

He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.

[mike92104]

He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=mike92104]He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.[/quote]

This is, of course, the GOP party line. But considering how Spector has been treated (and moderate Republicans in general), why would any of them stay? He votes more often with the Democrats than the GOP anyway, so it seems to me that his assertion that he’s switching because the GOP has moved further to the right of where he’s comfortable with seems pretty reasonable.

In any case, given his district, he’s unlikely to lose. His moderate views are the only reason the GOP has held that district. A hard-right conservative would get shellacked in his district.

There’s a reason the only statewide elected GOP officials are moderates in the Northeast (or, for that matter, the West coast). There may be pockets of conservatism up there, so a hard right conservative still has a chance of being elected to the House, but those states, by and large, are pretty socially liberal, and in a statewide election, a hard right conservative is unlikely to win.

Same reason why most southern democrats are socially conservative. The difference appears to be in how the party leadership treats those outside of the mainstream of the party.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=mike92104]He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.[/quote]

This is, of course, the GOP party line. But considering how Spector has been treated (and moderate Republicans in general), why would any of them stay? He votes more often with the Democrats than the GOP anyway, so it seems to me that his assertion that he’s switching because the GOP has moved further to the right of where he’s comfortable with seems pretty reasonable.

In any case, given his district, he’s unlikely to lose. His moderate views are the only reason the GOP has held that district. A hard-right conservative would get shellacked in his district.

There’s a reason the only statewide elected GOP officials are moderates in the Northeast (or, for that matter, the West coast). There may be pockets of conservatism up there, so a hard right conservative still has a chance of being elected to the House, but those states, by and large, are pretty socially liberal, and in a statewide election, a hard right conservative is unlikely to win.

Same reason why most southern democrats are socially conservative. The difference appears to be in how the party leadership treats those outside of the mainstream of the party.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=mike92104]He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.[/quote]

This is, of course, the GOP party line. But considering how Spector has been treated (and moderate Republicans in general), why would any of them stay? He votes more often with the Democrats than the GOP anyway, so it seems to me that his assertion that he’s switching because the GOP has moved further to the right of where he’s comfortable with seems pretty reasonable.

In any case, given his district, he’s unlikely to lose. His moderate views are the only reason the GOP has held that district. A hard-right conservative would get shellacked in his district.

There’s a reason the only statewide elected GOP officials are moderates in the Northeast (or, for that matter, the West coast). There may be pockets of conservatism up there, so a hard right conservative still has a chance of being elected to the House, but those states, by and large, are pretty socially liberal, and in a statewide election, a hard right conservative is unlikely to win.

Same reason why most southern democrats are socially conservative. The difference appears to be in how the party leadership treats those outside of the mainstream of the party.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=mike92104]He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.[/quote]

This is, of course, the GOP party line. But considering how Spector has been treated (and moderate Republicans in general), why would any of them stay? He votes more often with the Democrats than the GOP anyway, so it seems to me that his assertion that he’s switching because the GOP has moved further to the right of where he’s comfortable with seems pretty reasonable.

In any case, given his district, he’s unlikely to lose. His moderate views are the only reason the GOP has held that district. A hard-right conservative would get shellacked in his district.

There’s a reason the only statewide elected GOP officials are moderates in the Northeast (or, for that matter, the West coast). There may be pockets of conservatism up there, so a hard right conservative still has a chance of being elected to the House, but those states, by and large, are pretty socially liberal, and in a statewide election, a hard right conservative is unlikely to win.

Same reason why most southern democrats are socially conservative. The difference appears to be in how the party leadership treats those outside of the mainstream of the party.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=mike92104]He only switched because he knows he’ll get his ass beat by any other republican in his next race. I hope he loses either way.[/quote]

This is, of course, the GOP party line. But considering how Spector has been treated (and moderate Republicans in general), why would any of them stay? He votes more often with the Democrats than the GOP anyway, so it seems to me that his assertion that he’s switching because the GOP has moved further to the right of where he’s comfortable with seems pretty reasonable.

In any case, given his district, he’s unlikely to lose. His moderate views are the only reason the GOP has held that district. A hard-right conservative would get shellacked in his district.

There’s a reason the only statewide elected GOP officials are moderates in the Northeast (or, for that matter, the West coast). There may be pockets of conservatism up there, so a hard right conservative still has a chance of being elected to the House, but those states, by and large, are pretty socially liberal, and in a statewide election, a hard right conservative is unlikely to win.

Same reason why most southern democrats are socially conservative. The difference appears to be in how the party leadership treats those outside of the mainstream of the party.

[Coronita]

You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….

Just remember. When your searching for your dream home, and getting extremely frustrated because of the poor inventory…when you’re in that multiple-counter offer in and are getting consistently beat by folks that overbid you…..If you’re frustrated that your hard earned tax paying dollars are now subsidizing irresponsible borrowers (first it was just first liens, now it’s also second liens)…if you make less than $250k household income and don’t understand why your taxes are going to AIG bonuses for individuals for over a million, if you’re not sure why you are subsidizing GM and Chrysler despite the crap car portfolio they have….If you’re wondering why all that shadow REO inventory isn’t going onto the MLS, why you have to pay rent when irresponsible folks get to live rent free in an REO home moratorium after moratorium….and if you’re pissed that your savings earning that pidly 2% interest is soon about to be devalued by inflation or the sheer suggestion of a negative interest rate for saving…

…just remember….You’re in this mess because you have an out of control government dominated by an out of control democratic party…..and they are there because a lot of you voted based on your ideology and not based on what was better for your wallet.

[Coronita]

You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….

Just remember. When your searching for your dream home, and getting extremely frustrated because of the poor inventory…when you’re in that multiple-counter offer in and are getting consistently beat by folks that overbid you…..If you’re frustrated that your hard earned tax paying dollars are now subsidizing irresponsible borrowers (first it was just first liens, now it’s also second liens)…if you make less than $250k household income and don’t understand why your taxes are going to AIG bonuses for individuals for over a million, if you’re not sure why you are subsidizing GM and Chrysler despite the crap car portfolio they have….If you’re wondering why all that shadow REO inventory isn’t going onto the MLS, why you have to pay rent when irresponsible folks get to live rent free in an REO home moratorium after moratorium….and if you’re pissed that your savings earning that pidly 2% interest is soon about to be devalued by inflation or the sheer suggestion of a negative interest rate for saving…

…just remember….You’re in this mess because you have an out of control government dominated by an out of control democratic party…..and they are there because a lot of you voted based on your ideology and not based on what was better for your wallet.

[Coronita]

You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….

Just remember. When your searching for your dream home, and getting extremely frustrated because of the poor inventory…when you’re in that multiple-counter offer in and are getting consistently beat by folks that overbid you…..If you’re frustrated that your hard earned tax paying dollars are now subsidizing irresponsible borrowers (first it was just first liens, now it’s also second liens)…if you make less than $250k household income and don’t understand why your taxes are going to AIG bonuses for individuals for over a million, if you’re not sure why you are subsidizing GM and Chrysler despite the crap car portfolio they have….If you’re wondering why all that shadow REO inventory isn’t going onto the MLS, why you have to pay rent when irresponsible folks get to live rent free in an REO home moratorium after moratorium….and if you’re pissed that your savings earning that pidly 2% interest is soon about to be devalued by inflation or the sheer suggestion of a negative interest rate for saving…

…just remember….You’re in this mess because you have an out of control government dominated by an out of control democratic party…..and they are there because a lot of you voted based on your ideology and not based on what was better for your wallet.

[Coronita]

You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….

Just remember. When your searching for your dream home, and getting extremely frustrated because of the poor inventory…when you’re in that multiple-counter offer in and are getting consistently beat by folks that overbid you…..If you’re frustrated that your hard earned tax paying dollars are now subsidizing irresponsible borrowers (first it was just first liens, now it’s also second liens)…if you make less than $250k household income and don’t understand why your taxes are going to AIG bonuses for individuals for over a million, if you’re not sure why you are subsidizing GM and Chrysler despite the crap car portfolio they have….If you’re wondering why all that shadow REO inventory isn’t going onto the MLS, why you have to pay rent when irresponsible folks get to live rent free in an REO home moratorium after moratorium….and if you’re pissed that your savings earning that pidly 2% interest is soon about to be devalued by inflation or the sheer suggestion of a negative interest rate for saving…

…just remember….You’re in this mess because you have an out of control government dominated by an out of control democratic party…..and they are there because a lot of you voted based on your ideology and not based on what was better for your wallet.

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