OT: “Bob Rubin Just Wants to be Cuddled”

[davelj]

[quote=desmond]”50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. [/quote]

Personally, I don’t deny myself much that I want that’s legal. In my view, you only live once – why deny yourself things that you want (that are legal, of course)? My motto is that when you’re on your death bed you’re not going to regret the things you did, but rather the things you didn’t do. But it takes all kinds.

[quote=desmond]
btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?[/quote]

You misinterpreted what I wrote. The men in “that” (50%) category don’t spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat – they spend their lives trying to convince their families that they aren’t even INTERESTED in cheating. Apparently that’s your category. When you tell your family about your “fantasy” of cheating (“But I’m not acting on it!!”) and they whip out a cake to celebrate, let me know. I’d like to be there.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

The issue that demotes them from Great Man status is not the cheating, per se; it’s the hypocrisy attached to the act. (And I agree – I don’t like the word “cheating”, but it’s the common term applied to the act, so…. I also don’t like the term “fake” when applied to breast implants – I prefer “enhanced” – but I digress…)

If a man or woman wants to have affairs, that’s fine with me. But don’t hold yourself up in the court of public opinion as someone who’s holier-than-thou. Which is exactly what all of these jackasses do. Just acknowledge your “foibles” – for lack of a better word – and move on from there.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

The issue that demotes them from Great Man status is not the cheating, per se; it’s the hypocrisy attached to the act. (And I agree – I don’t like the word “cheating”, but it’s the common term applied to the act, so…. I also don’t like the term “fake” when applied to breast implants – I prefer “enhanced” – but I digress…)

If a man or woman wants to have affairs, that’s fine with me. But don’t hold yourself up in the court of public opinion as someone who’s holier-than-thou. Which is exactly what all of these jackasses do. Just acknowledge your “foibles” – for lack of a better word – and move on from there.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

The issue that demotes them from Great Man status is not the cheating, per se; it’s the hypocrisy attached to the act. (And I agree – I don’t like the word “cheating”, but it’s the common term applied to the act, so…. I also don’t like the term “fake” when applied to breast implants – I prefer “enhanced” – but I digress…)

If a man or woman wants to have affairs, that’s fine with me. But don’t hold yourself up in the court of public opinion as someone who’s holier-than-thou. Which is exactly what all of these jackasses do. Just acknowledge your “foibles” – for lack of a better word – and move on from there.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

The issue that demotes them from Great Man status is not the cheating, per se; it’s the hypocrisy attached to the act. (And I agree – I don’t like the word “cheating”, but it’s the common term applied to the act, so…. I also don’t like the term “fake” when applied to breast implants – I prefer “enhanced” – but I digress…)

If a man or woman wants to have affairs, that’s fine with me. But don’t hold yourself up in the court of public opinion as someone who’s holier-than-thou. Which is exactly what all of these jackasses do. Just acknowledge your “foibles” – for lack of a better word – and move on from there.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

The issue that demotes them from Great Man status is not the cheating, per se; it’s the hypocrisy attached to the act. (And I agree – I don’t like the word “cheating”, but it’s the common term applied to the act, so…. I also don’t like the term “fake” when applied to breast implants – I prefer “enhanced” – but I digress…)

If a man or woman wants to have affairs, that’s fine with me. But don’t hold yourself up in the court of public opinion as someone who’s holier-than-thou. Which is exactly what all of these jackasses do. Just acknowledge your “foibles” – for lack of a better word – and move on from there.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

Brian,

If you ever get married and decide that you “don’t care” if your wife (and mother of your children) sleeps around with other men (and you can stay home to take care of the kids while she does it, okay?), let us know.

Oh, don’t forget that she will be spending the family’s money on hotel rooms, dining expenses and gifts for her “friends.”

Until then, realize that cheating is NOT a victimless act. Families are destroyed as a result of cheating, and STDs are spread to innocent people (including children).

Feel free to live the swinging lifestyle that you claim to hold so dear, but it’s a bit odd that you try to speak for and about people who are married…when you have no idea what it’s all about.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

Brian,

If you ever get married and decide that you “don’t care” if your wife (and mother of your children) sleeps around with other men (and you can stay home to take care of the kids while she does it, okay?), let us know.

Oh, don’t forget that she will be spending the family’s money on hotel rooms, dining expenses and gifts for her “friends.”

Until then, realize that cheating is NOT a victimless act. Families are destroyed as a result of cheating, and STDs are spread to innocent people (including children).

Feel free to live the swinging lifestyle that you claim to hold so dear, but it’s a bit odd that you try to speak for and about people who are married…when you have no idea what it’s all about.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

Brian,

If you ever get married and decide that you “don’t care” if your wife (and mother of your children) sleeps around with other men (and you can stay home to take care of the kids while she does it, okay?), let us know.

Oh, don’t forget that she will be spending the family’s money on hotel rooms, dining expenses and gifts for her “friends.”

Until then, realize that cheating is NOT a victimless act. Families are destroyed as a result of cheating, and STDs are spread to innocent people (including children).

Feel free to live the swinging lifestyle that you claim to hold so dear, but it’s a bit odd that you try to speak for and about people who are married…when you have no idea what it’s all about.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

Brian,

If you ever get married and decide that you “don’t care” if your wife (and mother of your children) sleeps around with other men (and you can stay home to take care of the kids while she does it, okay?), let us know.

Oh, don’t forget that she will be spending the family’s money on hotel rooms, dining expenses and gifts for her “friends.”

Until then, realize that cheating is NOT a victimless act. Families are destroyed as a result of cheating, and STDs are spread to innocent people (including children).

Feel free to live the swinging lifestyle that you claim to hold so dear, but it’s a bit odd that you try to speak for and about people who are married…when you have no idea what it’s all about.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1]I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.[/quote]

Brian,

If you ever get married and decide that you “don’t care” if your wife (and mother of your children) sleeps around with other men (and you can stay home to take care of the kids while she does it, okay?), let us know.

Oh, don’t forget that she will be spending the family’s money on hotel rooms, dining expenses and gifts for her “friends.”

Until then, realize that cheating is NOT a victimless act. Families are destroyed as a result of cheating, and STDs are spread to innocent people (including children).

Feel free to live the swinging lifestyle that you claim to hold so dear, but it’s a bit odd that you try to speak for and about people who are married…when you have no idea what it’s all about.

[desmond]

Why would I tell my family my fantasies? That would be sick, what I can do is on my death bed look my son in the eyes and tell him I never cheated on his mother. You probably don’t have kids so I will give you one on your behavior. My motto is try not to judge other people, I have enough problems on my own.

[desmond]

Why would I tell my family my fantasies? That would be sick, what I can do is on my death bed look my son in the eyes and tell him I never cheated on his mother. You probably don’t have kids so I will give you one on your behavior. My motto is try not to judge other people, I have enough problems on my own.

[desmond]

Why would I tell my family my fantasies? That would be sick, what I can do is on my death bed look my son in the eyes and tell him I never cheated on his mother. You probably don’t have kids so I will give you one on your behavior. My motto is try not to judge other people, I have enough problems on my own.

[desmond]

Why would I tell my family my fantasies? That would be sick, what I can do is on my death bed look my son in the eyes and tell him I never cheated on his mother. You probably don’t have kids so I will give you one on your behavior. My motto is try not to judge other people, I have enough problems on my own.

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