OT: “Bob Rubin Just Wants to be Cuddled”

[davelj]

I must admit, I enjoy salacious stories about purportedly “Great Men” (Clinton, Spitzer, etc.) that turn out to be cheating womanizers, so of course I enjoyed this Bob Rubin story.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-mack/bob-rubin-just-wants-to-b_b_557621.html

Reminds me of a quote I read that goes something like, “There are no great men; only great reputations waiting to be tarnished.”

To expand on one of my favorite topics, my very crude breakdown of married men is as follows:

40% cheat (to greatly varying degrees)
50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)
3% gay
2% swingers
5% other – don’t cheat and don’t have any interest in cheating

What I’ve found is that the 93% in the top three groups spend much of their married lives trying to convince their families that they’re in the 5% “other” category.

This article probably isn’t helping Rubin with the case he’s been laying out to his family for ‘lo these many years.

[briansd1]

I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.

[briansd1]

I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.

[briansd1]

I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.

[briansd1]

I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.

[briansd1]

I absolutely agree with you.

However, I believe that Great Men can still be great even if they cheated. What’s the big deal?

Napoleon had many mistresses. So what?

I really don’t care if Bill Clinton cheated because he’s a liberal so he’s perfectly entitled to have extramarital affairs, if he wishes. It’s none of our business.

I enjoy more the salacious stories about conservative men who cheat — people like Larry Craig and Newt Gingrich.

John Boehner might want to have sex with a hot woman other than his wife. But he can’t because of his position. So he lives in frustration and denial.

I personally don’t like the word “cheat” because it implies something bad. For all we know, Hillary couldn’t care less who Bill sleeps with. But our society is just hypocritical about such matters. The French are much more well-adjusted.

Sarkozy is pretty ugly, but he’s powerful. Carla Bruni is beautiful and she married him because of that and she admitted it. It’s been a good marriage for both of them. All the more power to them.

[desmond]

“50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?

[desmond]

“50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?

[desmond]

“50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?

[desmond]

“50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?

[desmond]

“50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?

[davelj]

[quote=desmond]”50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. [/quote]

Personally, I don’t deny myself much that I want that’s legal. In my view, you only live once – why deny yourself things that you want (that are legal, of course)? My motto is that when you’re on your death bed you’re not going to regret the things you did, but rather the things you didn’t do. But it takes all kinds.

[quote=desmond]
btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?[/quote]

You misinterpreted what I wrote. The men in “that” (50%) category don’t spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat – they spend their lives trying to convince their families that they aren’t even INTERESTED in cheating. Apparently that’s your category. When you tell your family about your “fantasy” of cheating (“But I’m not acting on it!!”) and they whip out a cake to celebrate, let me know. I’d like to be there.

[davelj]

[quote=desmond]”50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. [/quote]

Personally, I don’t deny myself much that I want that’s legal. In my view, you only live once – why deny yourself things that you want (that are legal, of course)? My motto is that when you’re on your death bed you’re not going to regret the things you did, but rather the things you didn’t do. But it takes all kinds.

[quote=desmond]
btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?[/quote]

You misinterpreted what I wrote. The men in “that” (50%) category don’t spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat – they spend their lives trying to convince their families that they aren’t even INTERESTED in cheating. Apparently that’s your category. When you tell your family about your “fantasy” of cheating (“But I’m not acting on it!!”) and they whip out a cake to celebrate, let me know. I’d like to be there.

[davelj]

[quote=desmond]”50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. [/quote]

Personally, I don’t deny myself much that I want that’s legal. In my view, you only live once – why deny yourself things that you want (that are legal, of course)? My motto is that when you’re on your death bed you’re not going to regret the things you did, but rather the things you didn’t do. But it takes all kinds.

[quote=desmond]
btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?[/quote]

You misinterpreted what I wrote. The men in “that” (50%) category don’t spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat – they spend their lives trying to convince their families that they aren’t even INTERESTED in cheating. Apparently that’s your category. When you tell your family about your “fantasy” of cheating (“But I’m not acting on it!!”) and they whip out a cake to celebrate, let me know. I’d like to be there.

[davelj]

[quote=desmond]”50% want to cheat but can’t (unattractive, too busy, etc.)”

That is BS, want to cheat? How about 50% have a fantasy about cheating, but don’t. Put me in that group. [/quote]

Personally, I don’t deny myself much that I want that’s legal. In my view, you only live once – why deny yourself things that you want (that are legal, of course)? My motto is that when you’re on your death bed you’re not going to regret the things you did, but rather the things you didn’t do. But it takes all kinds.

[quote=desmond]
btw, why would men in that category spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat, when the don’t cheat?[/quote]

You misinterpreted what I wrote. The men in “that” (50%) category don’t spend their lives trying to convince their family they don’t cheat – they spend their lives trying to convince their families that they aren’t even INTERESTED in cheating. Apparently that’s your category. When you tell your family about your “fantasy” of cheating (“But I’m not acting on it!!”) and they whip out a cake to celebrate, let me know. I’d like to be there.

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