OT: Public pay & benefits

[sdrealtor]

Thank you NSR! CAR you are quoted posted salary ranges not ACTUAL EARNINGS. My facts are facts showing what they took home while yours are the myth of salary ranges.

A corrollary would be for you to post the salaries of the “captains of industry” which no doubt are a very small fraction of the income of the top wage earnings. Speculation as you call it is the foundation of capitalism. Coming up with an idea and building a company around it. Without that we wouldnt have any of the technological advances that support are quality of life.

Much of this income also comes from owning vast real estate holdings. Are you saying that someone who owns hundreds of apartment buildings should just let people live in them for free like the deadbeats you criticize for not paying their mortgages so the owners of those buildings dont make too much money from the rent they are entitled to?

[jpinpb]

nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.

[jpinpb]

nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.

[jpinpb]

nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.

[jpinpb]

nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.

[jpinpb]

nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=jpinpb]nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.[/quote]

Give us a break. I’m sure I’m not the only one here who has worked in the private sector working 70+ hour weeks without ANY additional pay. It’s called working on a salary and you stay in the office all night and on weekends because you’ve got a job to do and you want to keep it.

Moreover, I could be wrong, but I think sdr’s numbers understate the true compensation by quite a bit. There are also benefits and retirement that probably add about $40,000 a year to those numbers.

And those salary range numbers — which don’t reflect real compensation — explain a lot about why more folks don’t go out for these jobs. As the real numbers that sdr pointed out get out there more and more people are going to be trying to sign up for the gravy train.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=jpinpb]nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.[/quote]

Give us a break. I’m sure I’m not the only one here who has worked in the private sector working 70+ hour weeks without ANY additional pay. It’s called working on a salary and you stay in the office all night and on weekends because you’ve got a job to do and you want to keep it.

Moreover, I could be wrong, but I think sdr’s numbers understate the true compensation by quite a bit. There are also benefits and retirement that probably add about $40,000 a year to those numbers.

And those salary range numbers — which don’t reflect real compensation — explain a lot about why more folks don’t go out for these jobs. As the real numbers that sdr pointed out get out there more and more people are going to be trying to sign up for the gravy train.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=jpinpb]nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.[/quote]

Give us a break. I’m sure I’m not the only one here who has worked in the private sector working 70+ hour weeks without ANY additional pay. It’s called working on a salary and you stay in the office all night and on weekends because you’ve got a job to do and you want to keep it.

Moreover, I could be wrong, but I think sdr’s numbers understate the true compensation by quite a bit. There are also benefits and retirement that probably add about $40,000 a year to those numbers.

And those salary range numbers — which don’t reflect real compensation — explain a lot about why more folks don’t go out for these jobs. As the real numbers that sdr pointed out get out there more and more people are going to be trying to sign up for the gravy train.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=jpinpb]nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.[/quote]

Give us a break. I’m sure I’m not the only one here who has worked in the private sector working 70+ hour weeks without ANY additional pay. It’s called working on a salary and you stay in the office all night and on weekends because you’ve got a job to do and you want to keep it.

Moreover, I could be wrong, but I think sdr’s numbers understate the true compensation by quite a bit. There are also benefits and retirement that probably add about $40,000 a year to those numbers.

And those salary range numbers — which don’t reflect real compensation — explain a lot about why more folks don’t go out for these jobs. As the real numbers that sdr pointed out get out there more and more people are going to be trying to sign up for the gravy train.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=jpinpb]nsr – I would imagine that the increase in wage is OT. Before anyone goes on about OT being a good thing, many times it is just not a choice or option. It is a requirement. Even when they say it’s voluntary, if you don’t do it, you’re not a team player. Yes, they get compensated. But many times I’m sure they would rather be w/their family or surfing or riding dirt bikes or whatever hobbies people have in their lives. And if there’s a fire, they would work however long and necessary and required until the fire is out and that often is many days on end. The OT is not a plus, even though they get compensated for it. And as CAR alluded, it is still cheaper to pay the overtime, than hire new people.[/quote]

Give us a break. I’m sure I’m not the only one here who has worked in the private sector working 70+ hour weeks without ANY additional pay. It’s called working on a salary and you stay in the office all night and on weekends because you’ve got a job to do and you want to keep it.

Moreover, I could be wrong, but I think sdr’s numbers understate the true compensation by quite a bit. There are also benefits and retirement that probably add about $40,000 a year to those numbers.

And those salary range numbers — which don’t reflect real compensation — explain a lot about why more folks don’t go out for these jobs. As the real numbers that sdr pointed out get out there more and more people are going to be trying to sign up for the gravy train.

[paramount]

I think a firefighter is a higher skilled job than the average street cop.

Like I said before, in a pinch I could function as a cop – but not really a firefighter (from the medical standpoint) except to fight basic fires.

Neither could do my job in all probability; and realistically a cop and a firefighter are fairly low skilled jobs IMO.

That’s not to say I don’t appreciate their services…(although I do fear the police).

[paramount]

I think a firefighter is a higher skilled job than the average street cop.

Like I said before, in a pinch I could function as a cop – but not really a firefighter (from the medical standpoint) except to fight basic fires.

Neither could do my job in all probability; and realistically a cop and a firefighter are fairly low skilled jobs IMO.

That’s not to say I don’t appreciate their services…(although I do fear the police).

[paramount]

I think a firefighter is a higher skilled job than the average street cop.

Like I said before, in a pinch I could function as a cop – but not really a firefighter (from the medical standpoint) except to fight basic fires.

Neither could do my job in all probability; and realistically a cop and a firefighter are fairly low skilled jobs IMO.

That’s not to say I don’t appreciate their services…(although I do fear the police).

[paramount]

I think a firefighter is a higher skilled job than the average street cop.

Like I said before, in a pinch I could function as a cop – but not really a firefighter (from the medical standpoint) except to fight basic fires.

Neither could do my job in all probability; and realistically a cop and a firefighter are fairly low skilled jobs IMO.

That’s not to say I don’t appreciate their services…(although I do fear the police).

[Author]

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