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March 9, 2016 at 11:46 AM #795478March 9, 2016 at 11:47 AM #795479
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Participant[quote=spdrun]
What about leakage of nuclear plant?
What about loss of land due to leakage of nuclear (3 miles island)?Not a problem if you don’t hire idiots to design and operate the plant. And modern designs are a lot safer than 1960s designs in operation in the US.
Burning coal also puts radwaste into the environment you know.[/quote]
There are a lot of idiots out there.March 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM #795480bearishgurl
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]ok, not free, but cheap and not budget busting.
Mexico City’s subway fare is 25c…[/quote]One can still ride all over SF on the streetcar, cable car or bus (or a combo of the above) for $2.50 or less per day.March 9, 2016 at 11:59 AM #795483spdrun
ParticipantOr they can walk faster than most of those modes of conveyence. SFMUNI is a nice model train set 🙂
March 9, 2016 at 12:14 PM #795482FlyerInHi
GuestLet me give you an example of kookoo extremism from people who don’t want to even consider anything reasonable.
Anyone who uses airconditioning knows that efficiency is key to lower bill. There’s a huge difference between SEER-10 and SEER-13 or even higher (up to SEER-23 now)
As Clinton left office he mandated SEER-13. Bush rolled it back and the issue went to court. So we didn’t get SEER-13 until 2006 manufacture date. So most of the houses built doing the boom years still had the old stuff, manufactured before.
Lots of wasted energy and higher power bills for millions of consumers, simply because of obstruction.
http://www.nrdc.org/media/pressreleases/040116.asp
BTW, I happen to know this because I researched when I bought property.
If you run AC a lot and have high power bills, you know who to blame. AN, you have solar because you like AC. Well, do some research and see what your energy usage would be if you had SEER-18.
Anyone remember the polemic over the incandescent light bulbs. Isn’t it so quaint and anachronistic now that LED is everywhere?
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/147007-bachmann-let-there-be-incandescent-light
March 9, 2016 at 12:15 PM #795487no_such_reality
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=FlyerInHi]ok, not free, but cheap and not budget busting.
Mexico City’s subway fare is 25c…[/quote]One can still ride all over SF on the streetcar, cable car or bus (or a combo of the above) for $2.50 or less per day.[/quote]Mexico City also has a $5/day minimum wage. Which given California’s $10/hr minimum wage and an 8 hour work day, equates to a $4/subway far. LA’s subway fare is $1.75. Roughly 1/2 as much a Mexico City’s equivalent.
March 9, 2016 at 12:21 PM #795488Participant[quote=spdrun]Or they can walk faster than most of those modes of conveyence. SFMUNI is a nice model train set :)[/quote]You better be in damn good shape to walk up and down some of SF’s lo-o-ng hills every day, especially rolling a couple of bags of groceries or carrying a heavy backpack. Of course, lots of people do but they are mostly college-age and Gen Y … lol.
It’s not uncommon for a SV worker to have to walk up and downhill up to one mile to and from the Caltrain stop from their (SF) home every workday.
March 9, 2016 at 12:29 PM #795490ParticipantI learned my “appropriate footwear for SF” lesson the hard way. When walking to catch public transportation to/from kid(s) homes high on a hill, always wear running shoes or Uggs, etc (something flat, with support).
Trying to “look good” wearing “fashionable” boots with “higher heels” on is not a good plan. They’re okay for walking around union square shopping and catching a streetcar and then boarding a bus up the hill but NOT okay for walking up and downhill in. They’re a recipe for a badly sprained (or even broken) ankle :=0
March 9, 2016 at 12:29 PM #795491ParticipantIsn’t that what the Scroogle buses are for? So they don’t have to strain their weedle tootsie footsies?
March 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM #795492Participant[quote=spdrun]Isn’t that what the Scroogle buses are for? So they don’t have to strain their weedle tootsie footsies?[/quote]Well, yeah, but the “Scroogle busses” pick up and drop off the masses of worker-bees in the flats (such as in SOMA). It is a commercial area and as such, hardly anyone lives there. The vast majority of 2-4 unit flats in that part of SF are uphill and many of these hills’ crest at over one mile from the bottom.
Those “Scroogle busses” (and any other employer sponsored bus) come across the SF Bay Bridge early in the am from picking up workers who gathered at various pickup points located in Alameda and Contra Costa Counties. When they arrive in SF, the buses just have 2-4 stops on main thoroughfares in the City and perhaps one in Stonestown or SSF and one in Daly City before heading on down to SV.
The SV worker residing in SF has to get to/from the bus stop themselves. The employer buses don’t have door-to-door service or anything close to that in SF unless the worker lives dtn (on/off Market St) in the flats in one of the newer high-rise complexes.
March 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM #795493Participant[quote=spdrun]Or they can walk faster than most of those modes of conveyence. SFMUNI is a nice model train set :)[/quote]I agree that sometimes it IS faster and easier to walk, depending on where you are and where you want to go :=0
March 9, 2016 at 1:18 PM #795495ParticipantLCD/LEDs over incandescent mandate is a good example of a foisted solution without fully understanding the impacts and questionable numbers.
LEDs make great sense in long hour operating environments, i.e Stores/ warehouses that run the lights 12-24 hours/day. Less so in residential housing where the cycling of lights increases failure rates and the extremely long (hypothesized life) of the bulb isn’t beneficial.
[quote]Surprisingly to many, the true reliability and lifetime of light-emitting diode (LED) lighting systems
is generally not known. Even worse, lumen maintenance values of LED devices are widely used as a
proxy for the lifetime of an LED lighting system, which is misleading since lumen maintenance is
but one component of a luminaire’s reliability. In fact, quite often the lifetime of a well-designed and
manufactured luminaire is not determined by LED lumen depreciation. For many manufacturers
estimating the luminaire lifetime using LED lumen maintenance, results can be ascribed to
dependence on readily available numbers without developing actual luminaire data. In many cases,
neither product providers nor customers are aware of the differences, perhaps in part because the
problem has not been sufficiently explored and communicated.[/quote][quote=FlyerInHi]Let me give you an example of kookoo extremism from people who don’t want to even consider anything reasonable.
Anyone who uses airconditioning knows that efficiency is key to lower bill. There’s a huge difference between SEER-10 and SEER-13 or even higher (up to SEER-23 now)
As Clinton left office he mandated SEER-13. Bush rolled it back and the issue went to court. So we didn’t get SEER-13 until 2006 manufacture date. So most of the houses built doing the boom years still had the old stuff, manufactured before.
Lots of wasted energy and higher power bills for millions of consumers, simply because of obstruction.
http://www.nrdc.org/media/pressreleases/040116.asp
BTW, I happen to know this because I researched when I bought property.
If you run AC a lot and have high power bills, you know who to blame. AN, you have solar because you like AC. Well, do some research and see what your energy usage would be if you had SEER-18.
Anyone remember the polemic over the incandescent light bulbs. Isn’t it so quaint and anachronistic now that LED is everywhere?
March 9, 2016 at 1:37 PM #795497SK in CV
Participant[quote=poorgradstudent]
I think Rubio’s biggest issue is the Big Money donors aren’t too impressed with him. I mean, if I was a completely loaded Republican, at this point I’d be tempted to just let Trump or Cruz win the nomination and sink my cash into competitive Senate races. Or maybe even cross my fingers for a brokered convention, where backroom influence goes a long ways.[/quote]Rubio’s problem is that he has no campaign. He never built one. He’s lazy. He’s always been lazy. He gives a speech. If people like it, he gives it over and over again. Even if he had a campaign, he has nothing to run on. He’s a good looking, young, Hispanic republican. Full stop. That’s what he has. He would have an unlimited supply of insider money if he had anything beyond those attributes, and a campaign. He’s history. His senate seat is up next January. We may never hear from him again.
It’s likely the big republican money will go into the senate races and house races. Either Trump or Cruz will be a huge drag on down-ticket races. A Trump-Cruz ticket (or vice-versa) might cause Republicans to lose both the Senate and the House. It’s unlikely to happen. Cruz hates Trump. Everyone hates Cruz (that’s the one universal truth of this election cycle.) If the nominee comes out of a brokered convention, it’s unlikely to be either of them. My money is on Paul Ryan. He’s owed, big time. And down-ticket races will suffer even more.
March 9, 2016 at 1:39 PM #795498ParticipantCycling is actually harder on incandescent bulbs. The filament stretches and shrinks due to heating/cooling as the bulb is cycled. Can you say metal fatigue?
March 9, 2016 at 2:04 PM #795499ParticipantThat AC example is exactly what I’m talking about in term of side effect. I bought my AC a few years ago and my AC system is SEER-16 and my heater is 98% efficient. I have the $ to front the cost difference banking on the energy saving in the long run. However, not everyone can afford to spend a few more grand up front. Which mean those people would have to live w/out AC or upgrade to 92% efficient unit if their old unit is @ <80%, if we put a limit at 95% efficiency.
As for incandescent vs LED, that's another horrible example. W/ incandescent, each bulb is a few cents while LED, each bulb is a couple of $. How long would you have to use those incandescent before it break event w/ LED? My outdoor light gets used maybe 1 hour a month on average. How long do you think it'll take to break even? There nothing wrong w/ LED, but not everyone can afford it and it's not the right solution in all situation.
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