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[drunkle]

i dont know. i used palm as the template to describe the google and apple stuff. and the potential future… who’s to say ms and pocket pc dont make a massive drive into the mobile space? to me, browser based technology is the only insurance against obsolescence. plus it’s cheap, easy and 100% supported by everyone. if you dont have to learn and use a new platform/technology, why do it?

i still dont understand the “server side” stuff and the distinction you’re making with the total application development. to me, server side stuff is merely hardware, platform, firewall, network, etc. application development is tied at the hip in terms of client interface and server processes. how screwed up will your app get if there’s a disconnect between client and server specs? avoid that by having your people work in parallel rather than in series; each guy responsible for his module both front and back ends.

anyway, try a cheap intern first. they’ll have the most energy and give you the least flak. just keep them on a short leash.

[drunkle]

i dont know. i used palm as the template to describe the google and apple stuff. and the potential future… who’s to say ms and pocket pc dont make a massive drive into the mobile space? to me, browser based technology is the only insurance against obsolescence. plus it’s cheap, easy and 100% supported by everyone. if you dont have to learn and use a new platform/technology, why do it?

i still dont understand the “server side” stuff and the distinction you’re making with the total application development. to me, server side stuff is merely hardware, platform, firewall, network, etc. application development is tied at the hip in terms of client interface and server processes. how screwed up will your app get if there’s a disconnect between client and server specs? avoid that by having your people work in parallel rather than in series; each guy responsible for his module both front and back ends.

anyway, try a cheap intern first. they’ll have the most energy and give you the least flak. just keep them on a short leash.

[Coronita]

Drunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.

There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.

Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.

Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.

It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.

 

Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.

 

 

 

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Drunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.

There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.

Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.

Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.

It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.

 

Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.

 

 

 

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Drunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.

There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.

Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.

Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.

It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.

 

Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.

 

 

 

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Drunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.

There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.

Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.

Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.

It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.

 

Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.

 

 

 

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Drunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.

There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.

Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.

Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.

It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.

 

Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.

 

 

 

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Eugene]

I have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.

[Eugene]

I have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.

[Eugene]

I have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.

[Eugene]

I have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.

[Eugene]

I have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.

[barnaby33]

Stupid enterprise devs and their bloated code! Oh wait thats me.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Stupid enterprise devs and their bloated code! Oh wait thats me.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Stupid enterprise devs and their bloated code! Oh wait thats me.

Josh

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