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June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM #745135June 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM #745152Diego MamaniParticipant
[quote=CA renter][quote=Diego Mamani][quote=CA renter]We were blown away by the price of tires, too. Four tires for our minivan cost $723.72 after all was said and done. For a freaking minivan! :([/quote]
Oops, I forgot to add… the $360 included taxes and shipping, but I still had to pay another $50 or so for mounting and disposal of old tires. The good news was a Hankook rebate of $40 or so, so my net cost wasn’t too bad. I know, Hankook is no Michelin though.[/quote]How well do you think they perform?[/quote]
I can’t really tell. They were for Mrs. Mamani’s car, an ’03 Forester (an appliance really, to get to work and back). They look really nice, and they do what they are supposed to, but I don’t race or take corners at high speeds…
BTW, the ’03 Forester (purchased Aug ’02) has 135K miles and still looks and drives nicely.
June 8, 2012 at 6:14 PM #745339CoronitaParticipantBTW: I can’t wait until I need to get tires for BMWs… If you have a BMW, be warned about the future sticker shock… If you think tires are expensive, wait until you have to replace run-flat tires….
That is unless you want to take a chance and go with no run-flat and no spare tire in your bimmer.
June 8, 2012 at 6:17 PM #745338CoronitaParticipantWell to complete my week of being ultra cheap FLU, I got my Kumho tires dropshipped to the tire installer locally.
The tire installation ended up being $16/tire ($12 for parts/labor, and $4 for disposal fee/tax/etc)… BUT, then after they were mounted and I drove home, I noticed the installer installed them reversed inside out…. To be fair, Kumho tires don’t have an obvious indicator on which side the tire is on the outside. But anyway, went back, and they fixed it and gave me a install credit.
Then when I was filling out the warranty registration, I was looking up the DOT manufacturing number, and it ends up the ones I got were made back in 2010… Great. So I contact tirerack, who basically told me that the tires were stored properly in their warehouse, rotated, correctly, and that all the other kumho tires they had of the exact same type were made roughly with the same date. They offered to give me a $40 credit total. I am a little annoyed, because tires have a shelf life, but then I already had them mounted and didn’t want to go through the hassle again…and realistically I go through tires in about 2 years anyway…So…. I guess I’ll keep them. But probably won’t do the online purchase again for said reason…
Ended up being
Tires $344
Shipping $58
Install $65
Less
-$50 Manufacture rebate (visa gift card)
-$40 Seller credit
-$36 Install credit for the inside-out mistake$341 total, which isn’t bad for Z rated summer performance tires…
Also got my alignment done…for free. I bought a lifetime alignment back in 2007 for $140, and it was my 4th alignment done today. And when I rotate the tires @ the 1 year mark, I’ll do another alignment again…
As far as the Kumho’s go…handling is pretty good. They aren’t like Michelin Pilots or some of the $200+/tire sticky rubber, but they have pretty decent grip…Then again, I haven’t driven in the rain yet and they are brand new (we’ll see how they hold up). Acceptable for a daily car with spirited driving.
June 9, 2012 at 8:34 AM #745364RenParticipantOkay, I feel better. Paid $800 for 18″ Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport recently, with free rotations for the life of the tire. So far they’re quiet with awesome grip. We’ll see how long they last.
June 9, 2012 at 9:16 AM #745371CDMA ENGParticipantFlu,
Did you just say “Oh My”?
You have revealed yourself sir!
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June 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM #745385bearishgurlParticipant[quote=flu]Well to complete my week of being ultra cheap FLU, I got my Kumho tires dropshipped to the tire installer locally.
The tire installation ended up being $16/tire ($12 for parts/labor, and $4 for disposal fee/tax/etc)… BUT, then after they were mounted and I drove home, I noticed the installer installed them reversed inside out…. To be fair, Kumho tires don’t have an obvious indicator on which side the tire is on the outside. But anyway, went back, and they fixed it and gave me a install credit.
Then when I was filling out the warranty registration, I was looking up the DOT manufacturing number, and it ends up the ones I got were made back in 2010… Great. So I contact tirerack, who basically told me that the tires were stored properly in their warehouse, rotated, correctly, and that all the other kumho tires they had of the exact same type were made roughly with the same date. They offered to give me a $40 credit total. I am a little annoyed, because tires have a shelf life, but then I already had them mounted and didn’t want to go through the hassle again…and realistically I go through tires in about 2 years anyway…So…. I guess I’ll keep them. But probably won’t do the online purchase again for said reason…
Ended up being
Tires $344
Shipping $58
Install $65
Less
-$50 Manufacture rebate (visa gift card)
-$40 Seller credit
-$36 Install credit for the inside-out mistake$341 total, which isn’t bad for Z rated summer performance tires…
Also got my alignment done…for free. I bought a lifetime alignment back in 2007 for $140, and it was my 4th alignment done today. And when I rotate the tires @ the 1 year mark, I’ll do another alignment again…
As far as the Kumho’s go…handling is pretty good. They aren’t like Michelin Pilots or some of the $200+/tire sticky rubber, but they have pretty decent grip…Then again, I haven’t driven in the rain yet and they are brand new (we’ll see how they hold up). Acceptable for a daily car with spirited driving.[/quote]
flu, where did you sign up for the “lifetime” alignment? I just got my 3rd alignment in 5 years and they are up to $85 ea now for my car (Sears). Four Michelin Pilot Exaltos are $561.33 with tax (+ $7.50 ea fees, $2.99 ea valve stems and $16.68 ea for opt “Road Hazard Plus” agreement) at Sears.
June 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM #745386raty4RParticipantI Just paid $1300 out the door 285/75r16 GoodYears, last set of the same tires cost me $750 about 4-5 years ago. Looking back if I had changed to 18″ rims I would have found much cheaper tires.
The high price is because of the trade war with China about Chickens and tire import tarrifs. The US increased tarrifs on tires imported from China to save US tire workers. Do a Google search for more info.June 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM #745391CoronitaParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
flu, where did you sign up for the “lifetime” alignment? I just got my 3rd alignment in 5 years and they are up to $85 ea now for my car (Sears). Four Michelin Pilot Exaltos are $561.33 with tax (+ $7.50 ea fees, $2.99 ea valve stems and $16.68 ea for opt “Road Hazard Plus” agreement) at Sears.[/quote]All you need to do to get a lifetime alignment is to walk into almost any tire store.. Like evans tire, or firestone, or big-o or goodyear…Etc…
Current regular price at evans i believe is
$80 for 4 wheel
$150 for 4 wheel up to 5 years
$199 for 4 wheel lifetimeBut they usually give you a discount because for them, it doesn’t cost them really that much more to check your alignment (just labor). Just call stores up..It’s extremely competitive these days. The installer that did my tires asked me if I wanted a lifetime alignment for $199, but was going to sell it to me for $169. I told them I already had one at evans. Then they said, understood, but if it was more convenient for me, they could drop the price of the alignment to $139. I would tell you where I got my installation done but I just don’t want to embarass them on the internet….because though they made a mistake, I thought they were cool and nice about it and fundamentally liked them..
FYI: there are two different Michelin Pilot Exaltos.
There is the Michelin Exaltos A/S, which is an all-season tire. There is the Michelin Exaltos PE2, which is the summer performance tire. Also, for the Exaltos A/S, there is a $20 price difference between getting an H rated or V rated tire…If you can run H rated, that’s great….June 9, 2012 at 3:54 PM #745393bearishgurlParticipant[quote=flu]…FYI: there are two different Michelin Pilot Exaltos. There is the Michelin Exaltos A/S, which is an all-season tire. There is the Michelin Exaltos PE2, which is the summer performance tire. Also, for the Exaltos A/S, there is a $20 price difference between getting an H rated or V rated tire…If you can run H rated, that’s great….[/quote]
I know. I have run the V-rated tires before and they are so soft that they don’t last long. I can also use the H-rated tire.
Consider that I drive an average of 5500 miles on ONE summer road trip :=0
June 9, 2012 at 5:12 PM #745394Diego MamaniParticipant[quote=flu]I was looking up the DOT manufacturing number, and it ends up the ones I got were made back in 2010… Great. So I contact tirerack, who basically told me that the tires were stored properly in their warehouse, rotated, correctly, and that all the other kumho tires they had of the exact same type were made roughly with the same date. They offered to give me a $40 credit total. I am a little annoyed, because tires have a shelf life, but then I already had them mounted and didn’t want to go through the hassle again…and realistically I go through tires in about 2 years anyway…[/quote]
Back in Nov ’06 I also bought Kumho tires from tirerack.com for my ’01 ‘Stang. But they were new tires, made earlier that same year. I’m glad you brought up the issue of tires’ age (in years). There’s agreement that tires can go bad just from the passing of time, even if miles are low. But no one knows how old is too old. Some people say 6 years, others say 10, still others say don’t worry if you keep your car garaged and your weather isn’t extreme. I don’t drive my Mustang much, so the Kumho tires only have 20K miles, but almost six years… I’ll probably change them by year end, just to be safe.June 9, 2012 at 7:34 PM #745395CoronitaParticipant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=flu]…FYI: there are two different Michelin Pilot Exaltos. There is the Michelin Exaltos A/S, which is an all-season tire. There is the Michelin Exaltos PE2, which is the summer performance tire. Also, for the Exaltos A/S, there is a $20 price difference between getting an H rated or V rated tire…If you can run H rated, that’s great….[/quote]
I know. I have run the V-rated tires before and they are so soft that they don’t last long. I can also use the H-rated tire.
Consider that I drive an average of 5500 miles on ONE summer road trip :=0[/quote]
You probably meant the treadlife was really bad versus the ride/comfort soft. Once you start going to V or Z or higher rated tires, they are meant to be stickier, for better traction, and as a result will have much short tread life.
If you really want a long life tread, you should consider getting H or even T or S rated…. You will sacrifice traction… but for most every person, you probably won’t be able to tell the difference. You gain treadlife + ride comfort + probably much quieter tires, not to mention probably increased fuel economy.
Most people really don’t “need” V rated or higher tires, unless you start getting into cars with sports (or sporty-like) capabilities.
June 9, 2012 at 7:36 PM #745396CoronitaParticipant[quote=Diego Mamani][quote=flu]I was looking up the DOT manufacturing number, and it ends up the ones I got were made back in 2010… Great. So I contact tirerack, who basically told me that the tires were stored properly in their warehouse, rotated, correctly, and that all the other kumho tires they had of the exact same type were made roughly with the same date. They offered to give me a $40 credit total. I am a little annoyed, because tires have a shelf life, but then I already had them mounted and didn’t want to go through the hassle again…and realistically I go through tires in about 2 years anyway…[/quote]
Back in Nov ’06 I also bought Kumho tires from tirerack.com for my ’01 ‘Stang. But they were new tires, made earlier that same year. I’m glad you brought up the issue of tires’ age (in years). There’s agreement that tires can go bad just from the passing of time, even if miles are low. But no one knows how old is too old. Some people say 6 years, others say 10, still others say don’t worry if you keep your car garaged and your weather isn’t extreme. I don’t drive my Mustang much, so the Kumho tires only have 20K miles, but almost six years… I’ll probably change them by year end, just to be safe.[/quote]6 years is about what I tell people with a low mileage car. Just to be safe. I never make it past 3 for it to matter.
June 9, 2012 at 7:55 PM #745397CoronitaParticipantHijack…PSA… If you folks are getting crappy gas mileage, check when was the last time you replaced your fuel filter…
Today was “flu fix the old beater audi that I’ve been procrastinating for so long” day….
Mine is suppose to be a “lifetime filter”, whatever that means. But folks told me it should be fine up to 45k.. Well, I did mine at 43k and my car is now 95k, so slightly overdue. So after putting it off.. Today was the day.
On normal cars, this is like a 15-20 minute job for an amateur since it’s located in the engine… But thanks to German serviceability engineering at it’s finest, mine is located under the car, right next to the fuel tank….and it was nearly impossible to get out… 3 freaking hours, later…here’s something disgusting…. Here was the fuel that was coming out of the “clean side” of the filter (the fuel that is suppose to go to the engine and burn)..
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[img_assist|nid=16304|title=ick!|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=400|height=600]Yeah, that’s right. That’s gasoline, not engine oil…And ,no I don’t get crappy gas… Always get Shell or Mobil. And suddenly, my car is more responsive… Wonder if it also explains part of the pitiful gas mileage I’ve been getting…
Just passing the tip along….
June 9, 2012 at 8:42 PM #745398svelteParticipantI’m pretty much a Goodyear man, never had a bad set.
Never purchased any Michelins, but a car I bought came with them. They lasted a loooong time (I think, didn’t buy the car new) and at 70K miles I got a huge bubble (size of baseball) in the tread of front right. An anomaly I figure, so I switched it out with the spare until I decided what to do. Next week, a huge bubble appeared in the front left!
That freaked me out pretty bad, never bought any Michelins after that.
Wife’s Mustang came with BF Goodrich when we bought it new. Great tires, we loved them. So when time came to replace them, I bought the exact same tires for it. Tire dealer told me they had just redesigned that tire and I thought great, these will be even better. WRONG. The tires are SO noisy that we are counting the miles until they need replacement. In fact, I think we’ve decided to replace them early anyway. Very, very noisy tires.
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