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July 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM #241159July 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM #240962
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: I would point out that opinion is not fact. I would also point out that I didn’t find the post or the poster disgusting. This idea that ethnicity is somehow driving the debate is wrong-headed and it stifles the discussion. You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain.
Not check our brains at the door and ruthlessly attack anyone that we feel somehow doesn’t subscribe to identity or gender politics (and that is what you are doing).
And, BTW, I did go back and look at both the post and the context. Where is the underlying tone you mention? The post was to the point and straightforward. I think knee jerk is exactly the right phrase to describe your reaction.
July 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM #241100Participantmarion: I would point out that opinion is not fact. I would also point out that I didn’t find the post or the poster disgusting. This idea that ethnicity is somehow driving the debate is wrong-headed and it stifles the discussion. You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain.
Not check our brains at the door and ruthlessly attack anyone that we feel somehow doesn’t subscribe to identity or gender politics (and that is what you are doing).
And, BTW, I did go back and look at both the post and the context. Where is the underlying tone you mention? The post was to the point and straightforward. I think knee jerk is exactly the right phrase to describe your reaction.
July 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM #241106Participantmarion: I would point out that opinion is not fact. I would also point out that I didn’t find the post or the poster disgusting. This idea that ethnicity is somehow driving the debate is wrong-headed and it stifles the discussion. You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain.
Not check our brains at the door and ruthlessly attack anyone that we feel somehow doesn’t subscribe to identity or gender politics (and that is what you are doing).
And, BTW, I did go back and look at both the post and the context. Where is the underlying tone you mention? The post was to the point and straightforward. I think knee jerk is exactly the right phrase to describe your reaction.
July 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM #241160Participantmarion: I would point out that opinion is not fact. I would also point out that I didn’t find the post or the poster disgusting. This idea that ethnicity is somehow driving the debate is wrong-headed and it stifles the discussion. You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain.
Not check our brains at the door and ruthlessly attack anyone that we feel somehow doesn’t subscribe to identity or gender politics (and that is what you are doing).
And, BTW, I did go back and look at both the post and the context. Where is the underlying tone you mention? The post was to the point and straightforward. I think knee jerk is exactly the right phrase to describe your reaction.
July 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM #241165Participantmarion: I would point out that opinion is not fact. I would also point out that I didn’t find the post or the poster disgusting. This idea that ethnicity is somehow driving the debate is wrong-headed and it stifles the discussion. You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain.
Not check our brains at the door and ruthlessly attack anyone that we feel somehow doesn’t subscribe to identity or gender politics (and that is what you are doing).
And, BTW, I did go back and look at both the post and the context. Where is the underlying tone you mention? The post was to the point and straightforward. I think knee jerk is exactly the right phrase to describe your reaction.
July 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM #240967Anonymous
Guest[quote]You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain. [/quote]
Allan, that remains to be seen. I highly doubt that. But, again, that just happens to be my opinion.
July 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM #241105Guest[quote]You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain. [/quote]
Allan, that remains to be seen. I highly doubt that. But, again, that just happens to be my opinion.
July 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM #241111Guest[quote]You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain. [/quote]
Allan, that remains to be seen. I highly doubt that. But, again, that just happens to be my opinion.
July 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM #241164Guest[quote]You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain. [/quote]
Allan, that remains to be seen. I highly doubt that. But, again, that just happens to be my opinion.
July 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM #241169Guest[quote]You have, in partypup, somehow who shares your gender and ethnicity, yet is perfectly willing to go along with the notion that we are here to discuss, debate and entertain. [/quote]
Allan, that remains to be seen. I highly doubt that. But, again, that just happens to be my opinion.
July 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM #240972Participantmarion: So if it doesn’t sound ugly to me, then I’m a racist?
As I mentioned before, this is identity politics at its worst. If I don’t agree with your point, it makes me a racist. Whereas, the reality is that I don’t agree with your point because it is wrong or factually incorrect.
What, specifically, do you find offensive about the word “unsavory”? Do you feel that this label is somehow being applied to all blacks? Do you feel that blacks, as a group and a race, don’t ever engage in unsavory behavior? You need some specificity in your response, marion.
It sounds as though there is some history between you and Nost and that is coloring the response. And, no, I am not using the word “coloring” as any sort of pun or putdown.
July 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM #241110Participantmarion: So if it doesn’t sound ugly to me, then I’m a racist?
As I mentioned before, this is identity politics at its worst. If I don’t agree with your point, it makes me a racist. Whereas, the reality is that I don’t agree with your point because it is wrong or factually incorrect.
What, specifically, do you find offensive about the word “unsavory”? Do you feel that this label is somehow being applied to all blacks? Do you feel that blacks, as a group and a race, don’t ever engage in unsavory behavior? You need some specificity in your response, marion.
It sounds as though there is some history between you and Nost and that is coloring the response. And, no, I am not using the word “coloring” as any sort of pun or putdown.
July 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM #241116Participantmarion: So if it doesn’t sound ugly to me, then I’m a racist?
As I mentioned before, this is identity politics at its worst. If I don’t agree with your point, it makes me a racist. Whereas, the reality is that I don’t agree with your point because it is wrong or factually incorrect.
What, specifically, do you find offensive about the word “unsavory”? Do you feel that this label is somehow being applied to all blacks? Do you feel that blacks, as a group and a race, don’t ever engage in unsavory behavior? You need some specificity in your response, marion.
It sounds as though there is some history between you and Nost and that is coloring the response. And, no, I am not using the word “coloring” as any sort of pun or putdown.
July 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM #241170Participantmarion: So if it doesn’t sound ugly to me, then I’m a racist?
As I mentioned before, this is identity politics at its worst. If I don’t agree with your point, it makes me a racist. Whereas, the reality is that I don’t agree with your point because it is wrong or factually incorrect.
What, specifically, do you find offensive about the word “unsavory”? Do you feel that this label is somehow being applied to all blacks? Do you feel that blacks, as a group and a race, don’t ever engage in unsavory behavior? You need some specificity in your response, marion.
It sounds as though there is some history between you and Nost and that is coloring the response. And, no, I am not using the word “coloring” as any sort of pun or putdown.
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