OT. Obama or Mc Cain – New Thread

[Coronita]

FLU, you took the words right out of my mouth. The 28% cap gain tax possibility really turn me off against Obama. I think that would really hurt the middle and upper middle class who are trying to move on up. We all know 9-5 job will never get you rich.

With regards to balance in the 3 houses, can you imagine if Obama is the president right now instead of Bush? With the Frank-Dodd bill being cut down to size because the president is Bush. If it's Obama, I have a feeling we might see something much bigger.

 

You're going to feel it if your upper middle class and above, by the democrat definition. The good news is that it's probably not going to be quite as bad as if it were under hillary's watch. So pray she's not going to be VP candidate. I'm really hoping McCain picks someone like Powell. I respect that man, plus as an added bonus hopefully it would give him a running shot to be a president later. I don't like Rice, though I respect her accomplishments (smart/capable lady). So I hope he doesn't go there.

Frankly, I'm not a big mccain fan. I just dont want to go 4-8 years under a full democrat president and full democrat congress. There will be no checks and balances (just like the first 4 years of an all republican congress and president). And I fear of an impending all democrat orgy of epic proportions on a backlash on fiscally responsible people. I normally don't like to vote for an with my pocketbook versus principles. But given what's at stake, and given that it seems like mccain is more of a moderate republican, I'll vote for him more so than anyone on the democratic ticket, with the hope that we have some balance in our government.

 

Side note. Last year and this year was  my households "sell a lot of long term stock and cash out stock options" year. Me thinks we won't be seeing these reduced cap gains for a loooooooooong time.

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[an]

marion, what if that person is evenly distributed, 25% each. To make your life a little easier, what if this person is 50% African and 50% Asian.

I’d say that would depend on what percentage African-American the person was, wouldn’t you?
No, I wouldn’t. To me, this person is 100% American.

How many generations are you going back?
What do you mean? I wasn’t born here, if that’s what you’re asking.

Would you consider someone like Mariah Carey black too then? She doesn’t look black, but she’s 1/2 black.

[an]

marion, what if that person is evenly distributed, 25% each. To make your life a little easier, what if this person is 50% African and 50% Asian.

I’d say that would depend on what percentage African-American the person was, wouldn’t you?
No, I wouldn’t. To me, this person is 100% American.

How many generations are you going back?
What do you mean? I wasn’t born here, if that’s what you’re asking.

Would you consider someone like Mariah Carey black too then? She doesn’t look black, but she’s 1/2 black.

[an]

marion, what if that person is evenly distributed, 25% each. To make your life a little easier, what if this person is 50% African and 50% Asian.

I’d say that would depend on what percentage African-American the person was, wouldn’t you?
No, I wouldn’t. To me, this person is 100% American.

How many generations are you going back?
What do you mean? I wasn’t born here, if that’s what you’re asking.

Would you consider someone like Mariah Carey black too then? She doesn’t look black, but she’s 1/2 black.

[an]

marion, what if that person is evenly distributed, 25% each. To make your life a little easier, what if this person is 50% African and 50% Asian.

I’d say that would depend on what percentage African-American the person was, wouldn’t you?
No, I wouldn’t. To me, this person is 100% American.

How many generations are you going back?
What do you mean? I wasn’t born here, if that’s what you’re asking.

Would you consider someone like Mariah Carey black too then? She doesn’t look black, but she’s 1/2 black.

[an]

marion, what if that person is evenly distributed, 25% each. To make your life a little easier, what if this person is 50% African and 50% Asian.

I’d say that would depend on what percentage African-American the person was, wouldn’t you?
No, I wouldn’t. To me, this person is 100% American.

How many generations are you going back?
What do you mean? I wasn’t born here, if that’s what you’re asking.

Would you consider someone like Mariah Carey black too then? She doesn’t look black, but she’s 1/2 black.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Mariah Carey is BLACK. My maternal grandmother is 1/2 white, 1/2 black. I can call myself “biracial” all I want, but guess what, Asianautica? I’m black. As defined by the majority in our society.

Considering that people keeping referring to Obama as 1/2 black, 1/2 white because he’s mixed with white, when I’m asked my race, should I go around saying, “Oh, I’m 7/8ths black, 1/8 white”? That sounds pretty stupid,especially given the fact that whatever I’m mixed with genetically, society will always view me as being black.

P.S. and I don’t know why you’re making this argument, it’s common knowledge how racist some Asian people are. If you had a child by a black woman and took her back to Japan or China or whatever country you originated from, it’s almost a certainty that your relatives and the town people there will discriminate against your child. Do not deny it.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Mariah Carey is BLACK. My maternal grandmother is 1/2 white, 1/2 black. I can call myself “biracial” all I want, but guess what, Asianautica? I’m black. As defined by the majority in our society.

Considering that people keeping referring to Obama as 1/2 black, 1/2 white because he’s mixed with white, when I’m asked my race, should I go around saying, “Oh, I’m 7/8ths black, 1/8 white”? That sounds pretty stupid,especially given the fact that whatever I’m mixed with genetically, society will always view me as being black.

P.S. and I don’t know why you’re making this argument, it’s common knowledge how racist some Asian people are. If you had a child by a black woman and took her back to Japan or China or whatever country you originated from, it’s almost a certainty that your relatives and the town people there will discriminate against your child. Do not deny it.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Mariah Carey is BLACK. My maternal grandmother is 1/2 white, 1/2 black. I can call myself “biracial” all I want, but guess what, Asianautica? I’m black. As defined by the majority in our society.

Considering that people keeping referring to Obama as 1/2 black, 1/2 white because he’s mixed with white, when I’m asked my race, should I go around saying, “Oh, I’m 7/8ths black, 1/8 white”? That sounds pretty stupid,especially given the fact that whatever I’m mixed with genetically, society will always view me as being black.

P.S. and I don’t know why you’re making this argument, it’s common knowledge how racist some Asian people are. If you had a child by a black woman and took her back to Japan or China or whatever country you originated from, it’s almost a certainty that your relatives and the town people there will discriminate against your child. Do not deny it.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Mariah Carey is BLACK. My maternal grandmother is 1/2 white, 1/2 black. I can call myself “biracial” all I want, but guess what, Asianautica? I’m black. As defined by the majority in our society.

Considering that people keeping referring to Obama as 1/2 black, 1/2 white because he’s mixed with white, when I’m asked my race, should I go around saying, “Oh, I’m 7/8ths black, 1/8 white”? That sounds pretty stupid,especially given the fact that whatever I’m mixed with genetically, society will always view me as being black.

P.S. and I don’t know why you’re making this argument, it’s common knowledge how racist some Asian people are. If you had a child by a black woman and took her back to Japan or China or whatever country you originated from, it’s almost a certainty that your relatives and the town people there will discriminate against your child. Do not deny it.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Mariah Carey is BLACK. My maternal grandmother is 1/2 white, 1/2 black. I can call myself “biracial” all I want, but guess what, Asianautica? I’m black. As defined by the majority in our society.

Considering that people keeping referring to Obama as 1/2 black, 1/2 white because he’s mixed with white, when I’m asked my race, should I go around saying, “Oh, I’m 7/8ths black, 1/8 white”? That sounds pretty stupid,especially given the fact that whatever I’m mixed with genetically, society will always view me as being black.

P.S. and I don’t know why you’re making this argument, it’s common knowledge how racist some Asian people are. If you had a child by a black woman and took her back to Japan or China or whatever country you originated from, it’s almost a certainty that your relatives and the town people there will discriminate against your child. Do not deny it.

[seattle-relo]

Marion – Do you think that people who are biracial are identified by society more on how they look ( stereotypical features) or which race they themselves identify more with? For example, isn’t Mariah Carey one to distance herself from her african ethnicity – so not as many people think of her as black; whereas Obama is a married to a black woman and is very immersed in the black community of Chicago, so people more likely think of him as black.

Asianautica may not be racist, so I wouldn’t accuse him of not being able to engage in that argument, but in some sense you are right. I remember having many conversations with my asian boyfriend in undergrad about bi-racial dating and the very stong negativity towards a relationship with someone who was african american…his parents didn’t approve of me either because I wasn’t asian. oh well, his loss 🙂

BTW – I’m voting for Obama

[seattle-relo]

Marion – Do you think that people who are biracial are identified by society more on how they look ( stereotypical features) or which race they themselves identify more with? For example, isn’t Mariah Carey one to distance herself from her african ethnicity – so not as many people think of her as black; whereas Obama is a married to a black woman and is very immersed in the black community of Chicago, so people more likely think of him as black.

Asianautica may not be racist, so I wouldn’t accuse him of not being able to engage in that argument, but in some sense you are right. I remember having many conversations with my asian boyfriend in undergrad about bi-racial dating and the very stong negativity towards a relationship with someone who was african american…his parents didn’t approve of me either because I wasn’t asian. oh well, his loss 🙂

BTW – I’m voting for Obama

[seattle-relo]

Marion – Do you think that people who are biracial are identified by society more on how they look ( stereotypical features) or which race they themselves identify more with? For example, isn’t Mariah Carey one to distance herself from her african ethnicity – so not as many people think of her as black; whereas Obama is a married to a black woman and is very immersed in the black community of Chicago, so people more likely think of him as black.

Asianautica may not be racist, so I wouldn’t accuse him of not being able to engage in that argument, but in some sense you are right. I remember having many conversations with my asian boyfriend in undergrad about bi-racial dating and the very stong negativity towards a relationship with someone who was african american…his parents didn’t approve of me either because I wasn’t asian. oh well, his loss 🙂

BTW – I’m voting for Obama

[seattle-relo]

Marion – Do you think that people who are biracial are identified by society more on how they look ( stereotypical features) or which race they themselves identify more with? For example, isn’t Mariah Carey one to distance herself from her african ethnicity – so not as many people think of her as black; whereas Obama is a married to a black woman and is very immersed in the black community of Chicago, so people more likely think of him as black.

Asianautica may not be racist, so I wouldn’t accuse him of not being able to engage in that argument, but in some sense you are right. I remember having many conversations with my asian boyfriend in undergrad about bi-racial dating and the very stong negativity towards a relationship with someone who was african american…his parents didn’t approve of me either because I wasn’t asian. oh well, his loss 🙂

BTW – I’m voting for Obama

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