OT. Obama or Mc Cain

[partypup]

“I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

Stupid enough to be a senior vice president and earn 330K/year. I’m not saying I haven’t been discriminated against; I never said that, Marion. I have suffered much discrimination in my life. I have been insulted in job interviews and called “nigger” more times than I can count on one hand.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Lastly, it’s pretty insulting that you believe that all black people should act or think the same way. What are we, monolithic? If my experience has been different from yours, does that mean I am not black?? Am I not “down with the cause” unless I cry discrimination every day?
That’s crazy. And it’s also the same idiocy that was thrown at Bill Cosby when “The Cosby Show” debuted. “That’s not how black people live,” some would cry. Well, you know what? That’s how I grew up, and I’m not ashamed of it. I am very proud to be black. i think it is nothing short of racism for you to assume that all black people should have the same experience or vision.

If you really can’t see the difference an education makes for anyone, black OR white, then you must have a very meager education, yourself, marion. My sympathies.

[partypup]

“partypup, if you really are black-and I have my doubts-you are displaying an ingnorance with is astounding.

You really don’t know that racism has nothing to do with the amount of education you have, but has everything to do with the color of one’s skin (i.e. race). If you really are black, you’re a JOKE!

I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

And I’m curious, Marion: if Obama were white, would you still be such an ardent supporter?

I’ll be surprised if you’re honest with your response. We are in a very dangerous place in a country when people vote FOR or AGAINST any candidate because of their race. yet that is precisely what so many people are doing, whether they acknowledge it or not.

[partypup]

“partypup, if you really are black-and I have my doubts-you are displaying an ingnorance with is astounding.

You really don’t know that racism has nothing to do with the amount of education you have, but has everything to do with the color of one’s skin (i.e. race). If you really are black, you’re a JOKE!

I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

And I’m curious, Marion: if Obama were white, would you still be such an ardent supporter?

I’ll be surprised if you’re honest with your response. We are in a very dangerous place in a country when people vote FOR or AGAINST any candidate because of their race. yet that is precisely what so many people are doing, whether they acknowledge it or not.

[partypup]

“partypup, if you really are black-and I have my doubts-you are displaying an ingnorance with is astounding.

You really don’t know that racism has nothing to do with the amount of education you have, but has everything to do with the color of one’s skin (i.e. race). If you really are black, you’re a JOKE!

I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

And I’m curious, Marion: if Obama were white, would you still be such an ardent supporter?

I’ll be surprised if you’re honest with your response. We are in a very dangerous place in a country when people vote FOR or AGAINST any candidate because of their race. yet that is precisely what so many people are doing, whether they acknowledge it or not.

[partypup]

“partypup, if you really are black-and I have my doubts-you are displaying an ingnorance with is astounding.

You really don’t know that racism has nothing to do with the amount of education you have, but has everything to do with the color of one’s skin (i.e. race). If you really are black, you’re a JOKE!

I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

And I’m curious, Marion: if Obama were white, would you still be such an ardent supporter?

I’ll be surprised if you’re honest with your response. We are in a very dangerous place in a country when people vote FOR or AGAINST any candidate because of their race. yet that is precisely what so many people are doing, whether they acknowledge it or not.

[partypup]

“partypup, if you really are black-and I have my doubts-you are displaying an ingnorance with is astounding.

You really don’t know that racism has nothing to do with the amount of education you have, but has everything to do with the color of one’s skin (i.e. race). If you really are black, you’re a JOKE!

I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

And I’m curious, Marion: if Obama were white, would you still be such an ardent supporter?

I’ll be surprised if you’re honest with your response. We are in a very dangerous place in a country when people vote FOR or AGAINST any candidate because of their race. yet that is precisely what so many people are doing, whether they acknowledge it or not.

[jficquette]

Good post Dumbrenter.

[jficquette]

Good post Dumbrenter.

[jficquette]

Good post Dumbrenter.

[jficquette]

Good post Dumbrenter.

[jficquette]

Good post Dumbrenter.

[Anonymous]

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Ok, about your “point”. It’s good that you didn’t allow discrimination to prevent you from succeeding. You shouldn’t. If you had that would have made you a “victim”. But, I’m curious. Did anyone suggest that you should have let discrimination keep you from succeeding. It’s no special feat, partypup. Every single day, African-Americans all over the country begin their day and refuse to let discrimination hinder them as well.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education.

Then you are talking about discrimination based on social class/status. You have admitted that no matter what color you are, if you’re poor you will suffer MORE discrimination.

Now, let’s talk about racial discrimination. Some people don’t care how many degrees you have, you’ll still be a n*gger to them. Do ya get my point?? You’ve stated you’ve been called an n*gger before. If you had shown them your degrees, do you think they would have said, “Oops, I take it back?”…

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Yes, I do. I don’t agree that if he hadn’t attending “Harvard” he would have no chance of attaining what he has in life-including the democratic nomination. That is Your opinion. I don’t share it.

You also seemed to agree with the poster who stated Obama cannot identify with the common black man. I’m assuming that he meant because Obama has suffered “less” discrimination. Ridiculous. You should be deeply ashamed, partypup.

[Anonymous]

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Ok, about your “point”. It’s good that you didn’t allow discrimination to prevent you from succeeding. You shouldn’t. If you had that would have made you a “victim”. But, I’m curious. Did anyone suggest that you should have let discrimination keep you from succeeding. It’s no special feat, partypup. Every single day, African-Americans all over the country begin their day and refuse to let discrimination hinder them as well.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education.

Then you are talking about discrimination based on social class/status. You have admitted that no matter what color you are, if you’re poor you will suffer MORE discrimination.

Now, let’s talk about racial discrimination. Some people don’t care how many degrees you have, you’ll still be a n*gger to them. Do ya get my point?? You’ve stated you’ve been called an n*gger before. If you had shown them your degrees, do you think they would have said, “Oops, I take it back?”…

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Yes, I do. I don’t agree that if he hadn’t attending “Harvard” he would have no chance of attaining what he has in life-including the democratic nomination. That is Your opinion. I don’t share it.

You also seemed to agree with the poster who stated Obama cannot identify with the common black man. I’m assuming that he meant because Obama has suffered “less” discrimination. Ridiculous. You should be deeply ashamed, partypup.

[Anonymous]

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Ok, about your “point”. It’s good that you didn’t allow discrimination to prevent you from succeeding. You shouldn’t. If you had that would have made you a “victim”. But, I’m curious. Did anyone suggest that you should have let discrimination keep you from succeeding. It’s no special feat, partypup. Every single day, African-Americans all over the country begin their day and refuse to let discrimination hinder them as well.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education.

Then you are talking about discrimination based on social class/status. You have admitted that no matter what color you are, if you’re poor you will suffer MORE discrimination.

Now, let’s talk about racial discrimination. Some people don’t care how many degrees you have, you’ll still be a n*gger to them. Do ya get my point?? You’ve stated you’ve been called an n*gger before. If you had shown them your degrees, do you think they would have said, “Oops, I take it back?”…

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Yes, I do. I don’t agree that if he hadn’t attending “Harvard” he would have no chance of attaining what he has in life-including the democratic nomination. That is Your opinion. I don’t share it.

You also seemed to agree with the poster who stated Obama cannot identify with the common black man. I’m assuming that he meant because Obama has suffered “less” discrimination. Ridiculous. You should be deeply ashamed, partypup.

[Anonymous]

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Ok, about your “point”. It’s good that you didn’t allow discrimination to prevent you from succeeding. You shouldn’t. If you had that would have made you a “victim”. But, I’m curious. Did anyone suggest that you should have let discrimination keep you from succeeding. It’s no special feat, partypup. Every single day, African-Americans all over the country begin their day and refuse to let discrimination hinder them as well.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education.

Then you are talking about discrimination based on social class/status. You have admitted that no matter what color you are, if you’re poor you will suffer MORE discrimination.

Now, let’s talk about racial discrimination. Some people don’t care how many degrees you have, you’ll still be a n*gger to them. Do ya get my point?? You’ve stated you’ve been called an n*gger before. If you had shown them your degrees, do you think they would have said, “Oops, I take it back?”…

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Yes, I do. I don’t agree that if he hadn’t attending “Harvard” he would have no chance of attaining what he has in life-including the democratic nomination. That is Your opinion. I don’t share it.

You also seemed to agree with the poster who stated Obama cannot identify with the common black man. I’m assuming that he meant because Obama has suffered “less” discrimination. Ridiculous. You should be deeply ashamed, partypup.

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