OT: Obama is dumber than a box of rocks

[jficquette]

Yo G,

Obama appears to be the racist. He is the one with the “typical white” grandmother. He is also the one who attended a racist church for 20 years.

John

[Butleroftwo]

I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak.

[Butleroftwo]

I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak.

[Butleroftwo]

I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak.

[Butleroftwo]

I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak.

[Butleroftwo]

I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak.

[gandalf]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. It’s amazing how these right-wing automatons just make shit up.

We’ve been through his background before on one of these threads. You don’t graduate Harvard magna cum laude being a slacker, and affirmative action has nothing to do with it as most law school grading is blind. President of Law Review says something as well, as does the Columbia PoliSci degree before that with thesis on Soviet relations. Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago should matter, one of the most prestigious law schools in the country, and a conservative one at that. He was offered tenure twice but turned it down both times. He was elected to the Illinois Senate, then elected to the US Senate, where he served on the Foreign Relations committee. Again, experience that should count for something. The most interesting aspect is how the Bush Administration, and the Republican Party in general, is coming around to adopting positions held by Obama for a couple of years now, focus on Al Qaeda and Afg/Pak, take action inside Pak if intel warrants, hold discussions with Tehran, scale back involvement in Iraq, etc.

Much substance there, my friend. Just keep making shit up. All of you do. Of course, we’d rather hear something about a position or policy with which you disagree. That would be a better approach.

[gandalf]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. It’s amazing how these right-wing automatons just make shit up.

We’ve been through his background before on one of these threads. You don’t graduate Harvard magna cum laude being a slacker, and affirmative action has nothing to do with it as most law school grading is blind. President of Law Review says something as well, as does the Columbia PoliSci degree before that with thesis on Soviet relations. Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago should matter, one of the most prestigious law schools in the country, and a conservative one at that. He was offered tenure twice but turned it down both times. He was elected to the Illinois Senate, then elected to the US Senate, where he served on the Foreign Relations committee. Again, experience that should count for something. The most interesting aspect is how the Bush Administration, and the Republican Party in general, is coming around to adopting positions held by Obama for a couple of years now, focus on Al Qaeda and Afg/Pak, take action inside Pak if intel warrants, hold discussions with Tehran, scale back involvement in Iraq, etc.

Much substance there, my friend. Just keep making shit up. All of you do. Of course, we’d rather hear something about a position or policy with which you disagree. That would be a better approach.

[gandalf]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. It’s amazing how these right-wing automatons just make shit up.

We’ve been through his background before on one of these threads. You don’t graduate Harvard magna cum laude being a slacker, and affirmative action has nothing to do with it as most law school grading is blind. President of Law Review says something as well, as does the Columbia PoliSci degree before that with thesis on Soviet relations. Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago should matter, one of the most prestigious law schools in the country, and a conservative one at that. He was offered tenure twice but turned it down both times. He was elected to the Illinois Senate, then elected to the US Senate, where he served on the Foreign Relations committee. Again, experience that should count for something. The most interesting aspect is how the Bush Administration, and the Republican Party in general, is coming around to adopting positions held by Obama for a couple of years now, focus on Al Qaeda and Afg/Pak, take action inside Pak if intel warrants, hold discussions with Tehran, scale back involvement in Iraq, etc.

Much substance there, my friend. Just keep making shit up. All of you do. Of course, we’d rather hear something about a position or policy with which you disagree. That would be a better approach.

[gandalf]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. It’s amazing how these right-wing automatons just make shit up.

We’ve been through his background before on one of these threads. You don’t graduate Harvard magna cum laude being a slacker, and affirmative action has nothing to do with it as most law school grading is blind. President of Law Review says something as well, as does the Columbia PoliSci degree before that with thesis on Soviet relations. Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago should matter, one of the most prestigious law schools in the country, and a conservative one at that. He was offered tenure twice but turned it down both times. He was elected to the Illinois Senate, then elected to the US Senate, where he served on the Foreign Relations committee. Again, experience that should count for something. The most interesting aspect is how the Bush Administration, and the Republican Party in general, is coming around to adopting positions held by Obama for a couple of years now, focus on Al Qaeda and Afg/Pak, take action inside Pak if intel warrants, hold discussions with Tehran, scale back involvement in Iraq, etc.

Much substance there, my friend. Just keep making shit up. All of you do. Of course, we’d rather hear something about a position or policy with which you disagree. That would be a better approach.

[gandalf]

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. It’s amazing how these right-wing automatons just make shit up.

We’ve been through his background before on one of these threads. You don’t graduate Harvard magna cum laude being a slacker, and affirmative action has nothing to do with it as most law school grading is blind. President of Law Review says something as well, as does the Columbia PoliSci degree before that with thesis on Soviet relations. Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago should matter, one of the most prestigious law schools in the country, and a conservative one at that. He was offered tenure twice but turned it down both times. He was elected to the Illinois Senate, then elected to the US Senate, where he served on the Foreign Relations committee. Again, experience that should count for something. The most interesting aspect is how the Bush Administration, and the Republican Party in general, is coming around to adopting positions held by Obama for a couple of years now, focus on Al Qaeda and Afg/Pak, take action inside Pak if intel warrants, hold discussions with Tehran, scale back involvement in Iraq, etc.

Much substance there, my friend. Just keep making shit up. All of you do. Of course, we’d rather hear something about a position or policy with which you disagree. That would be a better approach.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I would argue the point that Obama has not held these positions for a couple of years, rather you are seeing the influence of people like Tony Lake in Obama’s campaign.

Obama is strongly pushing his original opposition to the war in Iraq, but the latest (fairly nuanced) foreign policy positions are new and the result of advice received from experienced policy hands like Lake.

I would still hold what Joe Biden said at the outset of the campaign, and that was that Obama was a foreign policy dilettante. Yes, this was simply a result of his being a newbie and lacking the requisite time and experience.

The Zakaria article went to great lengths and even greater pains to establish Obama’s “conservative” and “realistic” chops, but the fact remains that there is no body of evidence to support it.

You mention the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and it is a plum posting, especially for a junior Senator like Obama. However, what did he do there? I’m actually asking because I don’t know. It is worth looking at and looking up and would prove edifying to say the least.

As I said earlier, I could care less about his resume. I’m less interested in the shiny paint job and more interested in what’s under the hood.

I am also finding some of his latest policy shifts (NAFTA, FISA, gun control) of particular interest. This tacking back to center is going to create a little agida amongst the Dem true believers, no?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I would argue the point that Obama has not held these positions for a couple of years, rather you are seeing the influence of people like Tony Lake in Obama’s campaign.

Obama is strongly pushing his original opposition to the war in Iraq, but the latest (fairly nuanced) foreign policy positions are new and the result of advice received from experienced policy hands like Lake.

I would still hold what Joe Biden said at the outset of the campaign, and that was that Obama was a foreign policy dilettante. Yes, this was simply a result of his being a newbie and lacking the requisite time and experience.

The Zakaria article went to great lengths and even greater pains to establish Obama’s “conservative” and “realistic” chops, but the fact remains that there is no body of evidence to support it.

You mention the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and it is a plum posting, especially for a junior Senator like Obama. However, what did he do there? I’m actually asking because I don’t know. It is worth looking at and looking up and would prove edifying to say the least.

As I said earlier, I could care less about his resume. I’m less interested in the shiny paint job and more interested in what’s under the hood.

I am also finding some of his latest policy shifts (NAFTA, FISA, gun control) of particular interest. This tacking back to center is going to create a little agida amongst the Dem true believers, no?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I would argue the point that Obama has not held these positions for a couple of years, rather you are seeing the influence of people like Tony Lake in Obama’s campaign.

Obama is strongly pushing his original opposition to the war in Iraq, but the latest (fairly nuanced) foreign policy positions are new and the result of advice received from experienced policy hands like Lake.

I would still hold what Joe Biden said at the outset of the campaign, and that was that Obama was a foreign policy dilettante. Yes, this was simply a result of his being a newbie and lacking the requisite time and experience.

The Zakaria article went to great lengths and even greater pains to establish Obama’s “conservative” and “realistic” chops, but the fact remains that there is no body of evidence to support it.

You mention the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and it is a plum posting, especially for a junior Senator like Obama. However, what did he do there? I’m actually asking because I don’t know. It is worth looking at and looking up and would prove edifying to say the least.

As I said earlier, I could care less about his resume. I’m less interested in the shiny paint job and more interested in what’s under the hood.

I am also finding some of his latest policy shifts (NAFTA, FISA, gun control) of particular interest. This tacking back to center is going to create a little agida amongst the Dem true believers, no?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I would argue the point that Obama has not held these positions for a couple of years, rather you are seeing the influence of people like Tony Lake in Obama’s campaign.

Obama is strongly pushing his original opposition to the war in Iraq, but the latest (fairly nuanced) foreign policy positions are new and the result of advice received from experienced policy hands like Lake.

I would still hold what Joe Biden said at the outset of the campaign, and that was that Obama was a foreign policy dilettante. Yes, this was simply a result of his being a newbie and lacking the requisite time and experience.

The Zakaria article went to great lengths and even greater pains to establish Obama’s “conservative” and “realistic” chops, but the fact remains that there is no body of evidence to support it.

You mention the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and it is a plum posting, especially for a junior Senator like Obama. However, what did he do there? I’m actually asking because I don’t know. It is worth looking at and looking up and would prove edifying to say the least.

As I said earlier, I could care less about his resume. I’m less interested in the shiny paint job and more interested in what’s under the hood.

I am also finding some of his latest policy shifts (NAFTA, FISA, gun control) of particular interest. This tacking back to center is going to create a little agida amongst the Dem true believers, no?

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