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August 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM #251100August 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM #250880
Allan from Fallbrook
Participanttoots: I think the danger is confusing patriotism with nationalism.
Patriotism is the love of one’s country and the recognition that countries, like people, make mistakes, or lose their way or forget what really matters.
Nationalism, on the other hand, is the bunch of us sitting around a bonfire of burning books and singing “Deutschland Uber Alles”.
Subtle difference, but important.
You don’t have to justify your patriotism to anyone for the simple reason that everyone’s explanation is different. And that is what makes America truly great.
August 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM #251036Participanttoots: I think the danger is confusing patriotism with nationalism.
Patriotism is the love of one’s country and the recognition that countries, like people, make mistakes, or lose their way or forget what really matters.
Nationalism, on the other hand, is the bunch of us sitting around a bonfire of burning books and singing “Deutschland Uber Alles”.
Subtle difference, but important.
You don’t have to justify your patriotism to anyone for the simple reason that everyone’s explanation is different. And that is what makes America truly great.
August 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM #251044Participanttoots: I think the danger is confusing patriotism with nationalism.
Patriotism is the love of one’s country and the recognition that countries, like people, make mistakes, or lose their way or forget what really matters.
Nationalism, on the other hand, is the bunch of us sitting around a bonfire of burning books and singing “Deutschland Uber Alles”.
Subtle difference, but important.
You don’t have to justify your patriotism to anyone for the simple reason that everyone’s explanation is different. And that is what makes America truly great.
August 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM #251101Participanttoots: I think the danger is confusing patriotism with nationalism.
Patriotism is the love of one’s country and the recognition that countries, like people, make mistakes, or lose their way or forget what really matters.
Nationalism, on the other hand, is the bunch of us sitting around a bonfire of burning books and singing “Deutschland Uber Alles”.
Subtle difference, but important.
You don’t have to justify your patriotism to anyone for the simple reason that everyone’s explanation is different. And that is what makes America truly great.
August 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM #251110Participanttoots: I think the danger is confusing patriotism with nationalism.
Patriotism is the love of one’s country and the recognition that countries, like people, make mistakes, or lose their way or forget what really matters.
Nationalism, on the other hand, is the bunch of us sitting around a bonfire of burning books and singing “Deutschland Uber Alles”.
Subtle difference, but important.
You don’t have to justify your patriotism to anyone for the simple reason that everyone’s explanation is different. And that is what makes America truly great.
August 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM #250889gandalf
Participantbutler, there is quite a bit of material in Obama’s background that suggests a candidate of substance. The same is true with McCain. Both are qualified to be president, both are men of substance.
Exactly the opposite with your post — there is nothing substantive or even remotely factual. Obama comes from a disadvantaged background. He excelled in a number of exceptionally competitive circumstances that require hard work, intelligence and ability.
The recurring theme that Obama has been ‘handed’ everything in life is a talking point, introduced by the Hillary campaign, adopted by McCain and the Republican slime machine, propogated and repeated here again courtesy of you.
It’s fundamentally RACIST and the reason is because it relies not on facts (which contradict such a conclusion), but on racial stereotypes about African-Americans, the underlying suggestion being that Obama is the ‘affirmative action’ candidate, another lazy black man who doesn’t work, never had a real job and used his skin color to beat the system.
It’s disgusting. And as I pointed out earlier, the facts speak otherwise.
Oh yeah, and I really don’t give a damn if I offended you. Stop posting LIES. Stop posting offensive RACIST bullshit. That’s what gets you called out.
Criticize Obama, by all means. Take a fact-based position and back it up. “He is light on substance because he has limited experience with [pick an issue, foreign policy for example].” That would be more acceptable.
August 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM #251047Participantbutler, there is quite a bit of material in Obama’s background that suggests a candidate of substance. The same is true with McCain. Both are qualified to be president, both are men of substance.
Exactly the opposite with your post — there is nothing substantive or even remotely factual. Obama comes from a disadvantaged background. He excelled in a number of exceptionally competitive circumstances that require hard work, intelligence and ability.
The recurring theme that Obama has been ‘handed’ everything in life is a talking point, introduced by the Hillary campaign, adopted by McCain and the Republican slime machine, propogated and repeated here again courtesy of you.
It’s fundamentally RACIST and the reason is because it relies not on facts (which contradict such a conclusion), but on racial stereotypes about African-Americans, the underlying suggestion being that Obama is the ‘affirmative action’ candidate, another lazy black man who doesn’t work, never had a real job and used his skin color to beat the system.
It’s disgusting. And as I pointed out earlier, the facts speak otherwise.
Oh yeah, and I really don’t give a damn if I offended you. Stop posting LIES. Stop posting offensive RACIST bullshit. That’s what gets you called out.
Criticize Obama, by all means. Take a fact-based position and back it up. “He is light on substance because he has limited experience with [pick an issue, foreign policy for example].” That would be more acceptable.
August 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM #251054Participantbutler, there is quite a bit of material in Obama’s background that suggests a candidate of substance. The same is true with McCain. Both are qualified to be president, both are men of substance.
Exactly the opposite with your post — there is nothing substantive or even remotely factual. Obama comes from a disadvantaged background. He excelled in a number of exceptionally competitive circumstances that require hard work, intelligence and ability.
The recurring theme that Obama has been ‘handed’ everything in life is a talking point, introduced by the Hillary campaign, adopted by McCain and the Republican slime machine, propogated and repeated here again courtesy of you.
It’s fundamentally RACIST and the reason is because it relies not on facts (which contradict such a conclusion), but on racial stereotypes about African-Americans, the underlying suggestion being that Obama is the ‘affirmative action’ candidate, another lazy black man who doesn’t work, never had a real job and used his skin color to beat the system.
It’s disgusting. And as I pointed out earlier, the facts speak otherwise.
Oh yeah, and I really don’t give a damn if I offended you. Stop posting LIES. Stop posting offensive RACIST bullshit. That’s what gets you called out.
Criticize Obama, by all means. Take a fact-based position and back it up. “He is light on substance because he has limited experience with [pick an issue, foreign policy for example].” That would be more acceptable.
August 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM #251112Participantbutler, there is quite a bit of material in Obama’s background that suggests a candidate of substance. The same is true with McCain. Both are qualified to be president, both are men of substance.
Exactly the opposite with your post — there is nothing substantive or even remotely factual. Obama comes from a disadvantaged background. He excelled in a number of exceptionally competitive circumstances that require hard work, intelligence and ability.
The recurring theme that Obama has been ‘handed’ everything in life is a talking point, introduced by the Hillary campaign, adopted by McCain and the Republican slime machine, propogated and repeated here again courtesy of you.
It’s fundamentally RACIST and the reason is because it relies not on facts (which contradict such a conclusion), but on racial stereotypes about African-Americans, the underlying suggestion being that Obama is the ‘affirmative action’ candidate, another lazy black man who doesn’t work, never had a real job and used his skin color to beat the system.
It’s disgusting. And as I pointed out earlier, the facts speak otherwise.
Oh yeah, and I really don’t give a damn if I offended you. Stop posting LIES. Stop posting offensive RACIST bullshit. That’s what gets you called out.
Criticize Obama, by all means. Take a fact-based position and back it up. “He is light on substance because he has limited experience with [pick an issue, foreign policy for example].” That would be more acceptable.
August 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM #251119Participantbutler, there is quite a bit of material in Obama’s background that suggests a candidate of substance. The same is true with McCain. Both are qualified to be president, both are men of substance.
Exactly the opposite with your post — there is nothing substantive or even remotely factual. Obama comes from a disadvantaged background. He excelled in a number of exceptionally competitive circumstances that require hard work, intelligence and ability.
The recurring theme that Obama has been ‘handed’ everything in life is a talking point, introduced by the Hillary campaign, adopted by McCain and the Republican slime machine, propogated and repeated here again courtesy of you.
It’s fundamentally RACIST and the reason is because it relies not on facts (which contradict such a conclusion), but on racial stereotypes about African-Americans, the underlying suggestion being that Obama is the ‘affirmative action’ candidate, another lazy black man who doesn’t work, never had a real job and used his skin color to beat the system.
It’s disgusting. And as I pointed out earlier, the facts speak otherwise.
Oh yeah, and I really don’t give a damn if I offended you. Stop posting LIES. Stop posting offensive RACIST bullshit. That’s what gets you called out.
Criticize Obama, by all means. Take a fact-based position and back it up. “He is light on substance because he has limited experience with [pick an issue, foreign policy for example].” That would be more acceptable.
August 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM #250894jficquette
ParticipantYo G,
Obama appears to be the racist. He is the one with the “typical white” grandmother. He is also the one who attended a racist church for 20 years.
John
August 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM #251051ParticipantYo G,
Obama appears to be the racist. He is the one with the “typical white” grandmother. He is also the one who attended a racist church for 20 years.
John
August 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM #251059ParticipantYo G,
Obama appears to be the racist. He is the one with the “typical white” grandmother. He is also the one who attended a racist church for 20 years.
John
August 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM #251116ParticipantYo G,
Obama appears to be the racist. He is the one with the “typical white” grandmother. He is also the one who attended a racist church for 20 years.
John
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