OT- Obama’s pissed now

[Coronita]

[quote=PlnrBoy]Theater to me is the main stream media diving into the muck and every bimbo news reporter down at the beach picking up oil soaked mud. Seems a bit overplayed IMHO. Someone please give these people another Clinton to take their minds off the spill. Maybe a Blagovith thrown in for fun.[/quote]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Arraya]haha What are the gonna do, declare war. Besides most will get to keep their jobs, they will just be under new management. The government and media have the power to let BP live or die like the old Roman empires that sticking their thumbs up or down to decide the fate of gladiator. [/quote]

Arraya has it right.

The business units of BP will be transferred to new American management. BP will likely end up a legal bankrupt entity.

Makes perfect sense to me.[/quote]

Brian. I think you have it backwards. If any reshuffling is going to occur at BP, it’s going to be

1)Creating a BP USA and separating it from BP international…

2)Having BP international assume the very profitable international businesses with the nicest assets.

3)Sticking BP USA with the liabilities of the Gulf…

There’s another company that did such a thing when dealing with lawsuits… Phillip Morris aka Altria.
You can do some research on that company too for their reasons for splitting Altria into altria+Kraft+Phillip Morris International, (along with Texaco/Penzoil, though Texaco isn’t as relevant)…Altria takes all the domestic issues, tobacoo issue, PM International deals with all the international businesses and Kraft is kraft…Again, I don’t see how BP’s international would be affected by this..unless BP is really moronic and not planning for something like this. I’m pretty sure, they are spending more time thinking about an exit strategy right now rather than cleaning up this mess.

BP doesn’t really need to do anything creative with it’s reorg…Namely, because there are plenty of companies beforehand that can already provide them with a playbook, or two, or three.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Arraya]haha What are the gonna do, declare war. Besides most will get to keep their jobs, they will just be under new management. The government and media have the power to let BP live or die like the old Roman empires that sticking their thumbs up or down to decide the fate of gladiator. [/quote]

Arraya has it right.

The business units of BP will be transferred to new American management. BP will likely end up a legal bankrupt entity.

Makes perfect sense to me.[/quote]

Brian. I think you have it backwards. If any reshuffling is going to occur at BP, it’s going to be

1)Creating a BP USA and separating it from BP international…

2)Having BP international assume the very profitable international businesses with the nicest assets.

3)Sticking BP USA with the liabilities of the Gulf…

There’s another company that did such a thing when dealing with lawsuits… Phillip Morris aka Altria.
You can do some research on that company too for their reasons for splitting Altria into altria+Kraft+Phillip Morris International, (along with Texaco/Penzoil, though Texaco isn’t as relevant)…Altria takes all the domestic issues, tobacoo issue, PM International deals with all the international businesses and Kraft is kraft…Again, I don’t see how BP’s international would be affected by this..unless BP is really moronic and not planning for something like this. I’m pretty sure, they are spending more time thinking about an exit strategy right now rather than cleaning up this mess.

BP doesn’t really need to do anything creative with it’s reorg…Namely, because there are plenty of companies beforehand that can already provide them with a playbook, or two, or three.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Arraya]haha What are the gonna do, declare war. Besides most will get to keep their jobs, they will just be under new management. The government and media have the power to let BP live or die like the old Roman empires that sticking their thumbs up or down to decide the fate of gladiator. [/quote]

Arraya has it right.

The business units of BP will be transferred to new American management. BP will likely end up a legal bankrupt entity.

Makes perfect sense to me.[/quote]

Brian. I think you have it backwards. If any reshuffling is going to occur at BP, it’s going to be

1)Creating a BP USA and separating it from BP international…

2)Having BP international assume the very profitable international businesses with the nicest assets.

3)Sticking BP USA with the liabilities of the Gulf…

There’s another company that did such a thing when dealing with lawsuits… Phillip Morris aka Altria.
You can do some research on that company too for their reasons for splitting Altria into altria+Kraft+Phillip Morris International, (along with Texaco/Penzoil, though Texaco isn’t as relevant)…Altria takes all the domestic issues, tobacoo issue, PM International deals with all the international businesses and Kraft is kraft…Again, I don’t see how BP’s international would be affected by this..unless BP is really moronic and not planning for something like this. I’m pretty sure, they are spending more time thinking about an exit strategy right now rather than cleaning up this mess.

BP doesn’t really need to do anything creative with it’s reorg…Namely, because there are plenty of companies beforehand that can already provide them with a playbook, or two, or three.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Arraya]haha What are the gonna do, declare war. Besides most will get to keep their jobs, they will just be under new management. The government and media have the power to let BP live or die like the old Roman empires that sticking their thumbs up or down to decide the fate of gladiator. [/quote]

Arraya has it right.

The business units of BP will be transferred to new American management. BP will likely end up a legal bankrupt entity.

Makes perfect sense to me.[/quote]

Brian. I think you have it backwards. If any reshuffling is going to occur at BP, it’s going to be

1)Creating a BP USA and separating it from BP international…

2)Having BP international assume the very profitable international businesses with the nicest assets.

3)Sticking BP USA with the liabilities of the Gulf…

There’s another company that did such a thing when dealing with lawsuits… Phillip Morris aka Altria.
You can do some research on that company too for their reasons for splitting Altria into altria+Kraft+Phillip Morris International, (along with Texaco/Penzoil, though Texaco isn’t as relevant)…Altria takes all the domestic issues, tobacoo issue, PM International deals with all the international businesses and Kraft is kraft…Again, I don’t see how BP’s international would be affected by this..unless BP is really moronic and not planning for something like this. I’m pretty sure, they are spending more time thinking about an exit strategy right now rather than cleaning up this mess.

BP doesn’t really need to do anything creative with it’s reorg…Namely, because there are plenty of companies beforehand that can already provide them with a playbook, or two, or three.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Arraya]haha What are the gonna do, declare war. Besides most will get to keep their jobs, they will just be under new management. The government and media have the power to let BP live or die like the old Roman empires that sticking their thumbs up or down to decide the fate of gladiator. [/quote]

Arraya has it right.

The business units of BP will be transferred to new American management. BP will likely end up a legal bankrupt entity.

Makes perfect sense to me.[/quote]

Brian. I think you have it backwards. If any reshuffling is going to occur at BP, it’s going to be

1)Creating a BP USA and separating it from BP international…

2)Having BP international assume the very profitable international businesses with the nicest assets.

3)Sticking BP USA with the liabilities of the Gulf…

There’s another company that did such a thing when dealing with lawsuits… Phillip Morris aka Altria.
You can do some research on that company too for their reasons for splitting Altria into altria+Kraft+Phillip Morris International, (along with Texaco/Penzoil, though Texaco isn’t as relevant)…Altria takes all the domestic issues, tobacoo issue, PM International deals with all the international businesses and Kraft is kraft…Again, I don’t see how BP’s international would be affected by this..unless BP is really moronic and not planning for something like this. I’m pretty sure, they are spending more time thinking about an exit strategy right now rather than cleaning up this mess.

BP doesn’t really need to do anything creative with it’s reorg…Namely, because there are plenty of companies beforehand that can already provide them with a playbook, or two, or three.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.[/quote]

Did say that, but come on…Americans love a good versus evil story…They suck this up…They love happy/fairy tale endings…That’s why we get Brothers Grimm version of the Little Red Riding Hood (the original version, the wolf eats little red riding hood), pinnocchio (the original versus is a real kid that works as a puppet), and a few other of my favorites that were “americanized” with a happy ending…

That’s not reality jack…Still waiting for that outcome from Goldman investigations…I think you’ll soon find..Just a slap on a wrist, and nothing more…

Should these companies be held accountable. Absolutely…Is this administration or any administration going to do it? Most likely not….BP is gonna drag this issue out as long as they can…Because what’s one current administration’s issue isn’t gonna carry over into the next one, or the next one…They’re going to bankroll that people aren’t going to care so much about this issue once another corruption/fingerpointing/etc hapens…Goldman must love all this media BP is getting, because have you seen Goldman front page these days?? Nothing to see, move along…It’s pretty interesting how myopic people get from news sources like CoNNed (Cnn)….when things do/don’t appear on page 1.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.[/quote]

Did say that, but come on…Americans love a good versus evil story…They suck this up…They love happy/fairy tale endings…That’s why we get Brothers Grimm version of the Little Red Riding Hood (the original version, the wolf eats little red riding hood), pinnocchio (the original versus is a real kid that works as a puppet), and a few other of my favorites that were “americanized” with a happy ending…

That’s not reality jack…Still waiting for that outcome from Goldman investigations…I think you’ll soon find..Just a slap on a wrist, and nothing more…

Should these companies be held accountable. Absolutely…Is this administration or any administration going to do it? Most likely not….BP is gonna drag this issue out as long as they can…Because what’s one current administration’s issue isn’t gonna carry over into the next one, or the next one…They’re going to bankroll that people aren’t going to care so much about this issue once another corruption/fingerpointing/etc hapens…Goldman must love all this media BP is getting, because have you seen Goldman front page these days?? Nothing to see, move along…It’s pretty interesting how myopic people get from news sources like CoNNed (Cnn)….when things do/don’t appear on page 1.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.[/quote]

Did say that, but come on…Americans love a good versus evil story…They suck this up…They love happy/fairy tale endings…That’s why we get Brothers Grimm version of the Little Red Riding Hood (the original version, the wolf eats little red riding hood), pinnocchio (the original versus is a real kid that works as a puppet), and a few other of my favorites that were “americanized” with a happy ending…

That’s not reality jack…Still waiting for that outcome from Goldman investigations…I think you’ll soon find..Just a slap on a wrist, and nothing more…

Should these companies be held accountable. Absolutely…Is this administration or any administration going to do it? Most likely not….BP is gonna drag this issue out as long as they can…Because what’s one current administration’s issue isn’t gonna carry over into the next one, or the next one…They’re going to bankroll that people aren’t going to care so much about this issue once another corruption/fingerpointing/etc hapens…Goldman must love all this media BP is getting, because have you seen Goldman front page these days?? Nothing to see, move along…It’s pretty interesting how myopic people get from news sources like CoNNed (Cnn)….when things do/don’t appear on page 1.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=flu]

Media loves this “corporation against us thing”….

Toyota bashing.
BP bashing (though they are botching around with this cleanup)
Goldman
..

I guess people don’t need to worry about tainted food from China anymore. Looks like we’ll get plenty from the Gulf.[/quote]

Yeah, poor defenseless multi-billion dollar corporations against the liberal media.[/quote]

Did say that, but come on…Americans love a good versus evil story…They suck this up…They love happy/fairy tale endings…That’s why we get Brothers Grimm version of the Little Red Riding Hood (the original version, the wolf eats little red riding hood), pinnocchio (the original versus is a real kid that works as a puppet), and a few other of my favorites that were “americanized” with a happy ending…

That’s not reality jack…Still waiting for that outcome from Goldman investigations…I think you’ll soon find..Just a slap on a wrist, and nothing more…

Should these companies be held accountable. Absolutely…Is this administration or any administration going to do it? Most likely not….BP is gonna drag this issue out as long as they can…Because what’s one current administration’s issue isn’t gonna carry over into the next one, or the next one…They’re going to bankroll that people aren’t going to care so much about this issue once another corruption/fingerpointing/etc hapens…Goldman must love all this media BP is getting, because have you seen Goldman front page these days?? Nothing to see, move along…It’s pretty interesting how myopic people get from news sources like CoNNed (Cnn)….when things do/don’t appear on page 1.

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