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[Coronita]

sounds like FLU needs a Toughbook.

Had one. And found out it's not as tough as one would think 🙁

 

And yes, one of my dell desktop's bursted into flames (literally speaking).

 

 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

BTW FLU,

I once owned a Cayenne S. European quality is a myth and they need sveral years to get the bugs out of their cars like every other auto manufacturing country on earth.

disclaimer-this post was made using a Gateway computer but would have turned out just as well using my Chinese made Dell computer at home.

🙂

 

four walling, as an Audi owner, trust me, I'm extremely familiar with "european quality" you mention, though I guess I've been luckier than most (knock on wood). The thing is German automakers tend to overengineer things, and servicing things is really difficult. I'm sure with that complexity, it's also why things aren't quite as reliable, in part due to assembly.

That said, VAG has never supervised well in their own factories, but it's considerably worse when they use other factories. Hence why VW quality is much much worse than Audi. Most VW's sold in the states aren't assembled in Germany at all. I don't think the quality control will be there frankly.

The interesting note is that VW/Audi's sold in China are actually made there to begin with. Most of the A4/a6's in the Chinese market were made in China. VW was smart and entered the Chinese market very early before most other manufacturers. So I'd expect pretty soon most of the car lines will probably shift there. Another big manufacturer there is GM. Buicks are luxury brands there. And unlike here, the Buicks made over there actually look pretty nice (for GM). It's actually why the latest Buick designs are in part coming out of Shanghai design studio

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/14/beijing-08-buick-invicta-concept-to-be-4-door-coupe/

 

As far as the Audi TT. As much as I like the cars, I've heard reliability has always been an issue (at least the older gen). BTW, it's built in Hungary.

 

Speaking of which. I need to give my baby (figuratively speaking) an oil change tonight. That will take 1 hr to take everything apart..

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

BTW FLU,

I once owned a Cayenne S. European quality is a myth and they need sveral years to get the bugs out of their cars like every other auto manufacturing country on earth.

disclaimer-this post was made using a Gateway computer but would have turned out just as well using my Chinese made Dell computer at home.

🙂

 

four walling, as an Audi owner, trust me, I'm extremely familiar with "european quality" you mention, though I guess I've been luckier than most (knock on wood). The thing is German automakers tend to overengineer things, and servicing things is really difficult. I'm sure with that complexity, it's also why things aren't quite as reliable, in part due to assembly.

That said, VAG has never supervised well in their own factories, but it's considerably worse when they use other factories. Hence why VW quality is much much worse than Audi. Most VW's sold in the states aren't assembled in Germany at all. I don't think the quality control will be there frankly.

The interesting note is that VW/Audi's sold in China are actually made there to begin with. Most of the A4/a6's in the Chinese market were made in China. VW was smart and entered the Chinese market very early before most other manufacturers. So I'd expect pretty soon most of the car lines will probably shift there. Another big manufacturer there is GM. Buicks are luxury brands there. And unlike here, the Buicks made over there actually look pretty nice (for GM). It's actually why the latest Buick designs are in part coming out of Shanghai design studio

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/14/beijing-08-buick-invicta-concept-to-be-4-door-coupe/

 

As far as the Audi TT. As much as I like the cars, I've heard reliability has always been an issue (at least the older gen). BTW, it's built in Hungary.

 

Speaking of which. I need to give my baby (figuratively speaking) an oil change tonight. That will take 1 hr to take everything apart..

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

BTW FLU,

I once owned a Cayenne S. European quality is a myth and they need sveral years to get the bugs out of their cars like every other auto manufacturing country on earth.

disclaimer-this post was made using a Gateway computer but would have turned out just as well using my Chinese made Dell computer at home.

🙂

 

four walling, as an Audi owner, trust me, I'm extremely familiar with "european quality" you mention, though I guess I've been luckier than most (knock on wood). The thing is German automakers tend to overengineer things, and servicing things is really difficult. I'm sure with that complexity, it's also why things aren't quite as reliable, in part due to assembly.

That said, VAG has never supervised well in their own factories, but it's considerably worse when they use other factories. Hence why VW quality is much much worse than Audi. Most VW's sold in the states aren't assembled in Germany at all. I don't think the quality control will be there frankly.

The interesting note is that VW/Audi's sold in China are actually made there to begin with. Most of the A4/a6's in the Chinese market were made in China. VW was smart and entered the Chinese market very early before most other manufacturers. So I'd expect pretty soon most of the car lines will probably shift there. Another big manufacturer there is GM. Buicks are luxury brands there. And unlike here, the Buicks made over there actually look pretty nice (for GM). It's actually why the latest Buick designs are in part coming out of Shanghai design studio

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/14/beijing-08-buick-invicta-concept-to-be-4-door-coupe/

 

As far as the Audi TT. As much as I like the cars, I've heard reliability has always been an issue (at least the older gen). BTW, it's built in Hungary.

 

Speaking of which. I need to give my baby (figuratively speaking) an oil change tonight. That will take 1 hr to take everything apart..

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

BTW FLU,

I once owned a Cayenne S. European quality is a myth and they need sveral years to get the bugs out of their cars like every other auto manufacturing country on earth.

disclaimer-this post was made using a Gateway computer but would have turned out just as well using my Chinese made Dell computer at home.

🙂

 

four walling, as an Audi owner, trust me, I'm extremely familiar with "european quality" you mention, though I guess I've been luckier than most (knock on wood). The thing is German automakers tend to overengineer things, and servicing things is really difficult. I'm sure with that complexity, it's also why things aren't quite as reliable, in part due to assembly.

That said, VAG has never supervised well in their own factories, but it's considerably worse when they use other factories. Hence why VW quality is much much worse than Audi. Most VW's sold in the states aren't assembled in Germany at all. I don't think the quality control will be there frankly.

The interesting note is that VW/Audi's sold in China are actually made there to begin with. Most of the A4/a6's in the Chinese market were made in China. VW was smart and entered the Chinese market very early before most other manufacturers. So I'd expect pretty soon most of the car lines will probably shift there. Another big manufacturer there is GM. Buicks are luxury brands there. And unlike here, the Buicks made over there actually look pretty nice (for GM). It's actually why the latest Buick designs are in part coming out of Shanghai design studio

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/14/beijing-08-buick-invicta-concept-to-be-4-door-coupe/

 

As far as the Audi TT. As much as I like the cars, I've heard reliability has always been an issue (at least the older gen). BTW, it's built in Hungary.

 

Speaking of which. I need to give my baby (figuratively speaking) an oil change tonight. That will take 1 hr to take everything apart..

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

BTW FLU,

I once owned a Cayenne S. European quality is a myth and they need sveral years to get the bugs out of their cars like every other auto manufacturing country on earth.

disclaimer-this post was made using a Gateway computer but would have turned out just as well using my Chinese made Dell computer at home.

🙂

 

four walling, as an Audi owner, trust me, I'm extremely familiar with "european quality" you mention, though I guess I've been luckier than most (knock on wood). The thing is German automakers tend to overengineer things, and servicing things is really difficult. I'm sure with that complexity, it's also why things aren't quite as reliable, in part due to assembly.

That said, VAG has never supervised well in their own factories, but it's considerably worse when they use other factories. Hence why VW quality is much much worse than Audi. Most VW's sold in the states aren't assembled in Germany at all. I don't think the quality control will be there frankly.

The interesting note is that VW/Audi's sold in China are actually made there to begin with. Most of the A4/a6's in the Chinese market were made in China. VW was smart and entered the Chinese market very early before most other manufacturers. So I'd expect pretty soon most of the car lines will probably shift there. Another big manufacturer there is GM. Buicks are luxury brands there. And unlike here, the Buicks made over there actually look pretty nice (for GM). It's actually why the latest Buick designs are in part coming out of Shanghai design studio

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/14/beijing-08-buick-invicta-concept-to-be-4-door-coupe/

 

As far as the Audi TT. As much as I like the cars, I've heard reliability has always been an issue (at least the older gen). BTW, it's built in Hungary.

 

Speaking of which. I need to give my baby (figuratively speaking) an oil change tonight. That will take 1 hr to take everything apart..

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[four walling]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi’s biggest market outside Germany. Audi’s Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi’s Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

[four walling]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi’s biggest market outside Germany. Audi’s Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi’s Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

[four walling]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi’s biggest market outside Germany. Audi’s Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi’s Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

[four walling]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi’s biggest market outside Germany. Audi’s Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi’s Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

[four walling]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi’s biggest market outside Germany. Audi’s Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi’s Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

[Coronita]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi's biggest market outside Germany. Audi's Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi's Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

 

Yes, I'm aware, except the A4/A6's/VW's currently built in that market are only for the chinese market. That's why you get weird engine configurations like a A6 with a 1.8 engine.

This news is the first time stuff built their will actually be for the export market. It will start with the Q5, but pretty soon the A4/A6's will probably come out of there too, and probably the S4/S6 lines too, as they share much of the fundamentals with the A line. The only redeeming factor will be the RS4/5/6,R8 and TT-RS  line will still come out of GmbH in Germany, but highly unlikely I'll be in the in the driver's seat of one of those.

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi's biggest market outside Germany. Audi's Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi's Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

 

Yes, I'm aware, except the A4/A6's/VW's currently built in that market are only for the chinese market. That's why you get weird engine configurations like a A6 with a 1.8 engine.

This news is the first time stuff built their will actually be for the export market. It will start with the Q5, but pretty soon the A4/A6's will probably come out of there too, and probably the S4/S6 lines too, as they share much of the fundamentals with the A line. The only redeeming factor will be the RS4/5/6,R8 and TT-RS  line will still come out of GmbH in Germany, but highly unlikely I'll be in the in the driver's seat of one of those.

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi's biggest market outside Germany. Audi's Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi's Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

 

Yes, I'm aware, except the A4/A6's/VW's currently built in that market are only for the chinese market. That's why you get weird engine configurations like a A6 with a 1.8 engine.

This news is the first time stuff built their will actually be for the export market. It will start with the Q5, but pretty soon the A4/A6's will probably come out of there too, and probably the S4/S6 lines too, as they share much of the fundamentals with the A line. The only redeeming factor will be the RS4/5/6,R8 and TT-RS  line will still come out of GmbH in Germany, but highly unlikely I'll be in the in the driver's seat of one of those.

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

FYI FLU:

BEIJING — Audi will build its new Q5 premium SUV in China starting next year, company insiders told Automotive News Europe.

The Q5 will be built in a new plant Audi is constructing in Changchun in northern China.

FAW-Volkswagen Automotive currently builds the Audi A4 and A6 as well as five VW models in Changchun.

Audi will export the Q5 to China from its plant in Ingolstadt, southern Germany, until its China plant starts production in the summer of 2009, company sources said.

The Q5 will go on sale in Europe starting this summer. The first Q5 shipments to China will begin early next year.

Audi expects China to be the third largest single market for the Q5 after Western Europe and the U.S.

Last year, China overtook the UK as Audi's biggest market outside Germany. Audi's Chinese sales grew 24.8 percent to 101,996 units while its UK sales increased 17.1 percent to 100,712.

In the first quarter, Audi's Chinese sales grew a 25 percent to 30,188 units, the company said.

 

Yes, I'm aware, except the A4/A6's/VW's currently built in that market are only for the chinese market. That's why you get weird engine configurations like a A6 with a 1.8 engine.

This news is the first time stuff built their will actually be for the export market. It will start with the Q5, but pretty soon the A4/A6's will probably come out of there too, and probably the S4/S6 lines too, as they share much of the fundamentals with the A line. The only redeeming factor will be the RS4/5/6,R8 and TT-RS  line will still come out of GmbH in Germany, but highly unlikely I'll be in the in the driver's seat of one of those.

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

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