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June 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM #417094June 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM #416420
SanDiegoDave
ParticipantAfter last month’s ballot measure results, does anyone really believe that CA voters would overturn Prop 13?
One needs only to look at other states that have no Prop 13. The states that have full, unrestricted ability to not only raise property tax rates, but also reassess value every year. They’re all running massive deficits too.
It’s the spending. Pure and simple.
June 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM #416657SanDiegoDave
ParticipantAfter last month’s ballot measure results, does anyone really believe that CA voters would overturn Prop 13?
One needs only to look at other states that have no Prop 13. The states that have full, unrestricted ability to not only raise property tax rates, but also reassess value every year. They’re all running massive deficits too.
It’s the spending. Pure and simple.
June 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM #416918SanDiegoDave
ParticipantAfter last month’s ballot measure results, does anyone really believe that CA voters would overturn Prop 13?
One needs only to look at other states that have no Prop 13. The states that have full, unrestricted ability to not only raise property tax rates, but also reassess value every year. They’re all running massive deficits too.
It’s the spending. Pure and simple.
June 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM #416986SanDiegoDave
ParticipantAfter last month’s ballot measure results, does anyone really believe that CA voters would overturn Prop 13?
One needs only to look at other states that have no Prop 13. The states that have full, unrestricted ability to not only raise property tax rates, but also reassess value every year. They’re all running massive deficits too.
It’s the spending. Pure and simple.
June 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM #417145SanDiegoDave
ParticipantAfter last month’s ballot measure results, does anyone really believe that CA voters would overturn Prop 13?
One needs only to look at other states that have no Prop 13. The states that have full, unrestricted ability to not only raise property tax rates, but also reassess value every year. They’re all running massive deficits too.
It’s the spending. Pure and simple.
June 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM #416686paramount
ParticipantIt’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….
June 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM #416922paramount
ParticipantIt’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….
June 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM #417183paramount
ParticipantIt’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….
June 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM #417250paramount
ParticipantIt’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….
June 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM #417411paramount
ParticipantIt’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….
June 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM #416881DWCAP
Participant[quote=paramount]It’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….[/quote]
If only that was the problem, and not just a symptom.
The problem isnt the few million the legeslator rewards itself with, it is the billions that are spent taking care of people and the costs of providing that service. The medical bills, the Schools, healthy children programs, the free lunch/food programs, the roads and infastructure etc etc etc. All the stuff that sounds good but we dont want to pay for.Basically there alot of people out there taking alot out of the system and putting little to nothing back in.(Most of them are either old, or very young.)Those putting into the system dont want to put anymore in, so the system is running out. We either need to put more in, or expect less from the system (You mean Octomom cant have 14 children, many of whom are special needs, and have the state pay for all their care/education/costs!) She is only an extream example of the real problem.
June 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM #417117DWCAP
Participant[quote=paramount]It’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….[/quote]
If only that was the problem, and not just a symptom.
The problem isnt the few million the legeslator rewards itself with, it is the billions that are spent taking care of people and the costs of providing that service. The medical bills, the Schools, healthy children programs, the free lunch/food programs, the roads and infastructure etc etc etc. All the stuff that sounds good but we dont want to pay for.Basically there alot of people out there taking alot out of the system and putting little to nothing back in.(Most of them are either old, or very young.)Those putting into the system dont want to put anymore in, so the system is running out. We either need to put more in, or expect less from the system (You mean Octomom cant have 14 children, many of whom are special needs, and have the state pay for all their care/education/costs!) She is only an extream example of the real problem.
June 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM #417379DWCAP
Participant[quote=paramount]It’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….[/quote]
If only that was the problem, and not just a symptom.
The problem isnt the few million the legeslator rewards itself with, it is the billions that are spent taking care of people and the costs of providing that service. The medical bills, the Schools, healthy children programs, the free lunch/food programs, the roads and infastructure etc etc etc. All the stuff that sounds good but we dont want to pay for.Basically there alot of people out there taking alot out of the system and putting little to nothing back in.(Most of them are either old, or very young.)Those putting into the system dont want to put anymore in, so the system is running out. We either need to put more in, or expect less from the system (You mean Octomom cant have 14 children, many of whom are special needs, and have the state pay for all their care/education/costs!) She is only an extream example of the real problem.
June 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM #417447DWCAP
Participant[quote=paramount]It’s all of the above – mark my words though – nothing will really come of it except possibly more fees and taxes.
Assembly members will still get their 120k salary + free car (many opt for a Lexus of course) + free gas + free insurance + 30k per diem + this + that….[/quote]
If only that was the problem, and not just a symptom.
The problem isnt the few million the legeslator rewards itself with, it is the billions that are spent taking care of people and the costs of providing that service. The medical bills, the Schools, healthy children programs, the free lunch/food programs, the roads and infastructure etc etc etc. All the stuff that sounds good but we dont want to pay for.Basically there alot of people out there taking alot out of the system and putting little to nothing back in.(Most of them are either old, or very young.)Those putting into the system dont want to put anymore in, so the system is running out. We either need to put more in, or expect less from the system (You mean Octomom cant have 14 children, many of whom are special needs, and have the state pay for all their care/education/costs!) She is only an extream example of the real problem.
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