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September 13, 2015 at 9:25 AM #21683September 13, 2015 at 11:37 AM #789349CoronitaParticipant
I’d offer to give you mine if it were in better condition, but it isn’t. What part do you need replaced? Do you need to replace entire top or just the fogged/cracked plastic window in back?
When I first got the car, the top was fine, but the back window was fogged and cracked. So I replaced the back plastic window myself for like $18 using plastic vinyl from Yardage Town and some VLP glue from ace hardware.
If you need to replace the entire top, a good top will probably run you about $200 for the top itself, and about $100 for the rain gutter and about $300-400 for labor. You can do it yourself, I don’t think it’s that difficult. The other thing you can consider is look in craiglist, because there plenty of people that convert their NA to a full fledge track car, and they usually ditch the entire softtop, so you might be able to pick up one that is good condition for like $100-150 on an existing frame/rail….Installing that would be a lot easier than trying to install a soft top on a frame itself.
I’m still looking for a hardtop so I can ditch my softtop. But I’m having a hard time spending another $1000 for a hardtop on a car that itself was $2000…
If you just need to replace the back window, here’s the $18 FLU “ghetto” way of doing it.
You’ll need:
1. Clear vinyl from Yardage Town in Clairmont (the one in Mira Mesa closed 🙁 )
2. Electric tape
3. Clear packaging tape
4. A cutting board (preferably something you won’t use for cooking again)
5. VLP glue from Ace Hardware…
Here’s a rough idea of what you need to do if you’re only interested in changing the rear plastic window…
0. Take the back part of the soft top off. There’s plenty of web instructions on how to do this…
1. Scrub the old window well.
2. Use a razor blade and carefully cut the old window out. Use a cutting board on the backside to make a clean cut..
3. Use your cut out window as a template for the new window, leaving about a 1/2 inch border around the new window. Use a pair of shears or razor to cut the new vinyl
4. Place new window on back cover of top. use electric tape on the backside of the window to create a seal between the top and the new vinyl. This does two things. a) it keeps the vinyl in place while you glue. b) it prevents glue from leaking to the other side of your top.
5.Get a piece of electric tape and tape your outer top, tracing the edge of the vinyl. The idea is you want to create a mask around the top, so any glue that seeps out doesn’t make a mess onto the rest of your top..6. Get a piece of clear packaging tape ready. You will use this tape on top of where you are gluing, sealing the vinvl with glue to the top.
7. Apply a very tiny thin amount of glue to one side of the plastic vinyl, about 1/2 inch wide…Make sure it’s thin, but well coated..
8. Place your clear packaging tape on top of the vinyl and press down and smooth the plastic vinyl to the top…use the packaging tape to create a nice/smooth seal between the vinyl and the rest of your top…
9. Use something heavy like a dictionary, some weights and put those heavy things on the vinyl so when glue dries, it creates a nice tight bond with the soft top. Make sure you spread the weight evenly across the side you are gluing..
Glue only one side at a time, and make sure one side dries before gluing the next adjacent side. This will eliminate any sort of bubbling/wrinkle in the vinyl in case the vinyl expands/contracts wile gluing (ask me how I know)..
Repeat for the remaining 3 sides after each side has dried…
It took me maybe one night to do this.
IF you remove the back and ask someone to do it, it will probably cost about $100-200..Money well spent, unless you actually enjoy doing this like I do.
September 13, 2015 at 2:40 PM #789352Rich ToscanoKeymasterThis is where I take my car:
A bit of a haul from Poway, but they know their Miatas as far as I can tell…
September 13, 2015 at 3:28 PM #789353CoronitaParticipant[quote=Rich Toscano]This is where I take my car:
A bit of a haul from Poway, but they know their Miatas as far as I can tell…[/quote]
. +1 on Rocky’s. He’s right next to Brian Goodwin. Actually if you buy your own top and bring it with your miata to the next tech day, you might find people to help you install it. Rocky is pretty good at loaning the lifts during tech days.
September 14, 2015 at 5:54 PM #789365teaboyParticipantThanks for the tips!
I already cut out the old back window 10 years ago and have been mostly OK since it’s mostly garaged. Rest of roof is in OK condition.
I read that installing a full new roof onto an existing frame is a 6-8 hour job, which means a couple months for me 😉
Also, I see the back window only sections for sale. But not sure how easy these pop in.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/EZ-ON-MAZDA-MIATA-1990-2005-Convertible-Soft-Top-Plastic-Window-Black-Cabrio-/251217761656?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D8a7b63503c904a88b732cc584e508741%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D16%2526mehot%253Dpp%2526sd%253D251354727931&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460Anyone know about these? I’ll try to look into these further and report back.
tb
September 14, 2015 at 6:46 PM #789366CoronitaParticipant[quote=teaboy]Thanks for the tips!
I already cut out the old back window 10 years ago and have been mostly OK since it’s mostly garaged. Rest of roof is in OK condition.
I read that installing a full new roof onto an existing frame is a 6-8 hour job, which means a couple months for me 😉
Also, I see the back window only sections for sale. But not sure how easy these pop in.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/EZ-ON-MAZDA-MIATA-1990-2005-Convertible-Soft-Top-Plastic-Window-Black-Cabrio-/251217761656?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D8a7b63503c904a88b732cc584e508741%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D16%2526mehot%253Dpp%2526sd%253D251354727931&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460Anyone know about these? I’ll try to look into these further and report back.
tb[/quote]
Ugh..just buying the rear part.might be a challenge. The zipper tooth count might be different, depending on whether your top is oem or whether what they are selling is oem. If you can remove the rear part yourself, you can find an interior shop that will sew on a new rear window. It shouldn’t cost more than $300 at most. I don’t think rocky would do this sort of work because he isn’t an interior guy
He would most likely buy an entire top and install it…but call him and maybe he does do this sort of repair or at least knows some guy that will. I haven’t found a reasonable interior shop myself for any of my cars. So if you find one, let me know.September 14, 2015 at 10:35 PM #789367bearishgurlParticipant[quote=flu][quote=teaboy]Thanks for the tips!
I already cut out the old back window 10 years ago and have been mostly OK since it’s mostly garaged. Rest of roof is in OK condition.
I read that installing a full new roof onto an existing frame is a 6-8 hour job, which means a couple months for me 😉
Also, I see the back window only sections for sale. But not sure how easy these pop in.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/EZ-ON-MAZDA-MIATA-1990-2005-Convertible-Soft-Top-Plastic-Window-Black-Cabrio-/251217761656?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D8a7b63503c904a88b732cc584e508741%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D16%2526mehot%253Dpp%2526sd%253D251354727931&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460Anyone know about these? I’ll try to look into these further and report back.
tb[/quote]
Ugh..just buying the rear part.might be a challenge. The zipper tooth count might be different, depending on whether your top is oem or whether what they are selling is oem. If you can remove the rear part yourself, you can find an interior shop that will sew on a new rear window. It shouldn’t cost more than $300 at most. I don’t think rocky would do this sort of work because he isn’t an interior guy
He would most likely buy an entire top and install it…but call him and maybe he does do this sort of repair or at least knows some guy that will. I haven’t found a reasonable interior shop myself for any of my cars. So if you find one, let me know.[/quote]I’ve used these guys several years ago upon recommendation from my longtime mechanic and they’re reasonable, fast, efficient and do good work … also family owned:
September 15, 2015 at 7:04 AM #789368spdrunParticipantI wonder if there are any people in Mexico who would do that sort of work cheaper…
September 15, 2015 at 7:41 AM #789369HobieParticipant[quote=]I’ve used these guys several years ago upon recommendation from my longtime mechanic and they’re reasonable, fast, efficient and do good work … also family owned:
http://www.jimsautoupholstery.com/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/jims-auto-upholstery-san-diego%5B/quote%5DFunny you mentioned these guys. I used them 20+ years ago on a custom car. Couldn’t remember the name. Good work back then, hopefully still good today.
September 15, 2015 at 10:07 AM #789370bearishgurlParticipant[quote=Hobie][quote=]I’ve used these guys several years ago upon recommendation from my longtime mechanic and they’re reasonable, fast, efficient and do good work … also family owned:
http://www.jimsautoupholstery.com/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/jims-auto-upholstery-san-diego%5B/quote%5DFunny you mentioned these guys. I used them 20+ years ago on a custom car. Couldn’t remember the name. Good work back then, hopefully still good today.[/quote]
I used them on a couple of different vehicles over the last 25 years …. on both carpeting and leather repairs. IIRC, the carpeting job was able to be done while I waited! Their people have a lot of experience and know exactly what they are doing.
September 16, 2015 at 12:28 AM #789377svelteParticipantI miss my Miata.
I just might have to get another one.
BTW – a close friend replaced the top in his wife’s first gen Miata himself. They’ve told me they’ll pay to have it done next time…
September 16, 2015 at 9:30 AM #789379CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I miss my Miata.
I just might have to get another one.
BTW – a close friend replaced the top in his wife’s first gen Miata himself. They’ve told me they’ll pay to have it done next time…[/quote]
It’s fun cheap little car. It’s no Porsche or Italian car, but it’s cheap. I wouldn’t mind having a new ND….
Lately, I really like the “whine” from the sc,even under light load…. heh heh…(There’s usually the Ponch and John waiting at the end of that merge)
Still have a lot of things that need to cut the fat out.
September 16, 2015 at 9:40 AM #789380spdrunParticipantAt least you still can get one with a real transmission, not one designed for wimps with bad knees. Most Italian cars right now are paddle-only with the wrong number of pedals. I’d RATHER drive any Miata than most new Ferraris or Lambos.
September 24, 2015 at 12:11 PM #789585teaboyParticipantOk, here some ballpark figures from http://www.jimsautoupholstery.com/.
Option 1- At $150 Jim’s could do something similar to what flu posted. If that was an option for me I would gladly pay them to do a half decent job of that rather than the hack job i would end up doing. Unfortunately, it’s not an option as there are about 5 or 6 tears in the vinyl around where the back window was.
Option 2- At $250 for installation only, Jim’s could install a new top on the existing frame. A new Robbins top (including rain rail) from gomiata.com currently runs at $519 ($580 including tax and shipping). So, all in I’m looking at $830 for a new top.
I also called http://www.yelp.com/biz/bernies-auto-upholstery-and-convertible-tops-lemon-grove
Option 3- Bernie’s said that if the zipper is still intacts (which it is) if I brought it in he could check if he has any backwindows parts which are an exact fit with the existing zipper. He quoted me $250 for that. But it seems hella unlikely to work out.
Option 4- Bernie’s quoted me $800 for a new top installed over the existing frame.
Anyways, I’ve survived 10 years without the back window, so maybe i’ll just leave it. only problem is i can no longer garage it all the time and with El Nino coming it might be a wet winter…
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