OT: McCain Victory No Longer Unikely

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Partypup I too am fascinated by the whole PUMA thing and little it’s been covered. One of the sites actually had people donating last minute funds to run anti-messiah ads in swing states.

Very good analysis here, and I think you are correct the tightening is occuring. Also you shed on a topic I hadn’t given much thought to, and that is the massive Hillary turnout when the race was considered all but over. Why would so many waste their time? I understand a few hardcore types doing it, but pulling upset wins?

I guarantee you if for some reason O loses, he is done with national politics. Weren’t there a couple of media types questioning at the time why Hillary won some of the last couple of primaries? They never really did go into it much or I should give us any depth on the topic. It’s been a big lovefest since the nomination but very little in the way of tough questions.

If I know the media like I think I do, they’ll start to grill him some from tomorrow until the inauguration. At some point he’ll have to take some stands that will either show him to the center-right like William Jefferson (Dick Morris years), or where I think he’ll govern from… the left. Remember he has to answer to the Howard Dean/Pelosi/Reid contingency who helped “steal this from Hillary” according to the PUMAs. He’ll have majorities in Congress, and the mandate will be said to govern from the left.

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[quote=jficquette]Partypup,

I don’t think McCain is senile. I say that because the sense of humor is the first thing to go when senility hits and McCain has a great wit. He was very funny imitating Barbara Streisand and was funny on SNL the other nite. Maybe you did not really meant senile in the clincal sense.

He seems to have a ton of energy and showed during the debates that he is very clever and is good at finding weaknesses in his oppenent.

72 is not that old anymore. Maybe that’s because I am already 54 LOL.

Plus, his daughter claims he likes 9 inch nails (g).

John

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LOL. I was only kidding, John. I didn’t mean “senile” in the clinical sense, no. I actually agree that he’s got his wits about him, surprisingly for a guy his age. But he is purposely portrayed in the media as absent-minded and doddering for the sole purpose of drawing a direct contrast to the tall, youthful, elegant Obama. And that’s a difficult image for any leader to counteract. It just doesn’t inspire confidence.

Between the two men, however, my gut tells me McCain is the slightly better and more trustworthy person. By that I mean that I may not agree with all of McCain’s policies, but I am more apt to trust that HE believes in them and that he thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obama, IMO, strikes me as someone who is self-involved, focused on promoting his brand (himself), and regardless of whether I agree with his stated policies, I cannot be certain that HE believes in them and will carry them out. Bill Clinton nailed it perfectly when he talked about Candidate X and Candidate Y. You may only agree with Candidate X on 50% of his policies, but he can deliver 100% of the time, whereas Candidate Y matches 100% of your policy interests, but he can only deliver 25% of the time. Or something like that. I think Obama is a walking bait-and-switch. The off-handed “bitter guns and religion” comment should have been a wake up call to a lot of people. I found it very telling. And the fact that he stood by while the media sent cruise missiles at Joe the Plumber — who’s only crime was to be in front of his house when Obama came along and engaged him, and Joe asked what seemed to be an innocuous question — let me know that the little guy may very well be a casualty in the coming Obama Reich, and resistance is not encouraged.

Also, McCain appears to be loathed by the media.

That’s a plus, IMO.

Look deeper! The truth is never on the surface.

[partypup]

[quote=jficquette]Partypup,

I don’t think McCain is senile. I say that because the sense of humor is the first thing to go when senility hits and McCain has a great wit. He was very funny imitating Barbara Streisand and was funny on SNL the other nite. Maybe you did not really meant senile in the clincal sense.

He seems to have a ton of energy and showed during the debates that he is very clever and is good at finding weaknesses in his oppenent.

72 is not that old anymore. Maybe that’s because I am already 54 LOL.

Plus, his daughter claims he likes 9 inch nails (g).

John

[/quote]

LOL. I was only kidding, John. I didn’t mean “senile” in the clinical sense, no. I actually agree that he’s got his wits about him, surprisingly for a guy his age. But he is purposely portrayed in the media as absent-minded and doddering for the sole purpose of drawing a direct contrast to the tall, youthful, elegant Obama. And that’s a difficult image for any leader to counteract. It just doesn’t inspire confidence.

Between the two men, however, my gut tells me McCain is the slightly better and more trustworthy person. By that I mean that I may not agree with all of McCain’s policies, but I am more apt to trust that HE believes in them and that he thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obama, IMO, strikes me as someone who is self-involved, focused on promoting his brand (himself), and regardless of whether I agree with his stated policies, I cannot be certain that HE believes in them and will carry them out. Bill Clinton nailed it perfectly when he talked about Candidate X and Candidate Y. You may only agree with Candidate X on 50% of his policies, but he can deliver 100% of the time, whereas Candidate Y matches 100% of your policy interests, but he can only deliver 25% of the time. Or something like that. I think Obama is a walking bait-and-switch. The off-handed “bitter guns and religion” comment should have been a wake up call to a lot of people. I found it very telling. And the fact that he stood by while the media sent cruise missiles at Joe the Plumber — who’s only crime was to be in front of his house when Obama came along and engaged him, and Joe asked what seemed to be an innocuous question — let me know that the little guy may very well be a casualty in the coming Obama Reich, and resistance is not encouraged.

Also, McCain appears to be loathed by the media.

That’s a plus, IMO.

Look deeper! The truth is never on the surface.

[partypup]

[quote=jficquette]Partypup,

I don’t think McCain is senile. I say that because the sense of humor is the first thing to go when senility hits and McCain has a great wit. He was very funny imitating Barbara Streisand and was funny on SNL the other nite. Maybe you did not really meant senile in the clincal sense.

He seems to have a ton of energy and showed during the debates that he is very clever and is good at finding weaknesses in his oppenent.

72 is not that old anymore. Maybe that’s because I am already 54 LOL.

Plus, his daughter claims he likes 9 inch nails (g).

John

[/quote]

LOL. I was only kidding, John. I didn’t mean “senile” in the clinical sense, no. I actually agree that he’s got his wits about him, surprisingly for a guy his age. But he is purposely portrayed in the media as absent-minded and doddering for the sole purpose of drawing a direct contrast to the tall, youthful, elegant Obama. And that’s a difficult image for any leader to counteract. It just doesn’t inspire confidence.

Between the two men, however, my gut tells me McCain is the slightly better and more trustworthy person. By that I mean that I may not agree with all of McCain’s policies, but I am more apt to trust that HE believes in them and that he thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obama, IMO, strikes me as someone who is self-involved, focused on promoting his brand (himself), and regardless of whether I agree with his stated policies, I cannot be certain that HE believes in them and will carry them out. Bill Clinton nailed it perfectly when he talked about Candidate X and Candidate Y. You may only agree with Candidate X on 50% of his policies, but he can deliver 100% of the time, whereas Candidate Y matches 100% of your policy interests, but he can only deliver 25% of the time. Or something like that. I think Obama is a walking bait-and-switch. The off-handed “bitter guns and religion” comment should have been a wake up call to a lot of people. I found it very telling. And the fact that he stood by while the media sent cruise missiles at Joe the Plumber — who’s only crime was to be in front of his house when Obama came along and engaged him, and Joe asked what seemed to be an innocuous question — let me know that the little guy may very well be a casualty in the coming Obama Reich, and resistance is not encouraged.

Also, McCain appears to be loathed by the media.

That’s a plus, IMO.

Look deeper! The truth is never on the surface.

[partypup]

[quote=jficquette]Partypup,

I don’t think McCain is senile. I say that because the sense of humor is the first thing to go when senility hits and McCain has a great wit. He was very funny imitating Barbara Streisand and was funny on SNL the other nite. Maybe you did not really meant senile in the clincal sense.

He seems to have a ton of energy and showed during the debates that he is very clever and is good at finding weaknesses in his oppenent.

72 is not that old anymore. Maybe that’s because I am already 54 LOL.

Plus, his daughter claims he likes 9 inch nails (g).

John

[/quote]

LOL. I was only kidding, John. I didn’t mean “senile” in the clinical sense, no. I actually agree that he’s got his wits about him, surprisingly for a guy his age. But he is purposely portrayed in the media as absent-minded and doddering for the sole purpose of drawing a direct contrast to the tall, youthful, elegant Obama. And that’s a difficult image for any leader to counteract. It just doesn’t inspire confidence.

Between the two men, however, my gut tells me McCain is the slightly better and more trustworthy person. By that I mean that I may not agree with all of McCain’s policies, but I am more apt to trust that HE believes in them and that he thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obama, IMO, strikes me as someone who is self-involved, focused on promoting his brand (himself), and regardless of whether I agree with his stated policies, I cannot be certain that HE believes in them and will carry them out. Bill Clinton nailed it perfectly when he talked about Candidate X and Candidate Y. You may only agree with Candidate X on 50% of his policies, but he can deliver 100% of the time, whereas Candidate Y matches 100% of your policy interests, but he can only deliver 25% of the time. Or something like that. I think Obama is a walking bait-and-switch. The off-handed “bitter guns and religion” comment should have been a wake up call to a lot of people. I found it very telling. And the fact that he stood by while the media sent cruise missiles at Joe the Plumber — who’s only crime was to be in front of his house when Obama came along and engaged him, and Joe asked what seemed to be an innocuous question — let me know that the little guy may very well be a casualty in the coming Obama Reich, and resistance is not encouraged.

Also, McCain appears to be loathed by the media.

That’s a plus, IMO.

Look deeper! The truth is never on the surface.

[partypup]

[quote=jficquette]Partypup,

I don’t think McCain is senile. I say that because the sense of humor is the first thing to go when senility hits and McCain has a great wit. He was very funny imitating Barbara Streisand and was funny on SNL the other nite. Maybe you did not really meant senile in the clincal sense.

He seems to have a ton of energy and showed during the debates that he is very clever and is good at finding weaknesses in his oppenent.

72 is not that old anymore. Maybe that’s because I am already 54 LOL.

Plus, his daughter claims he likes 9 inch nails (g).

John

[/quote]

LOL. I was only kidding, John. I didn’t mean “senile” in the clinical sense, no. I actually agree that he’s got his wits about him, surprisingly for a guy his age. But he is purposely portrayed in the media as absent-minded and doddering for the sole purpose of drawing a direct contrast to the tall, youthful, elegant Obama. And that’s a difficult image for any leader to counteract. It just doesn’t inspire confidence.

Between the two men, however, my gut tells me McCain is the slightly better and more trustworthy person. By that I mean that I may not agree with all of McCain’s policies, but I am more apt to trust that HE believes in them and that he thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obama, IMO, strikes me as someone who is self-involved, focused on promoting his brand (himself), and regardless of whether I agree with his stated policies, I cannot be certain that HE believes in them and will carry them out. Bill Clinton nailed it perfectly when he talked about Candidate X and Candidate Y. You may only agree with Candidate X on 50% of his policies, but he can deliver 100% of the time, whereas Candidate Y matches 100% of your policy interests, but he can only deliver 25% of the time. Or something like that. I think Obama is a walking bait-and-switch. The off-handed “bitter guns and religion” comment should have been a wake up call to a lot of people. I found it very telling. And the fact that he stood by while the media sent cruise missiles at Joe the Plumber — who’s only crime was to be in front of his house when Obama came along and engaged him, and Joe asked what seemed to be an innocuous question — let me know that the little guy may very well be a casualty in the coming Obama Reich, and resistance is not encouraged.

Also, McCain appears to be loathed by the media.

That’s a plus, IMO.

Look deeper! The truth is never on the surface.

[equalizer]

partyup,

Let’s sum it up, the winner will get 269-280, very tight. Let take 2004 results and flip NM and IA. That gives 269 tie. Let give CO to Obama. +9 for dems. Throw in NV(5), dems +14. However, McCain can easily win all with PA(21) to get 276. [Ohio and PA are similar, but not the same] If Obama loses PA, it will not be because of Hillary. She has made so many speeches on his behalf. If her supporters dont vote for Obama, it will be mostly the Bradley effect and fact that Biden didn’t really bring over any voters.

If NV stays red and PA turns red, but IA+NM+VA+CO goes blue then 270-268 for Obama. 50-80,000 people at Obama rally in VA tonight is scary, but most are going to see the Boss? Isn’t Springsteen going to most of Obama’s rallies?

So, only five states in play: NM, NV, VA, CO, PA.

Obama is the underdog, even though he will likely win popular vote by millions. If he loses PA+VA and thus the EV, then there could be massive disullusionment in this country that has not been seen since the 70’s and would cause minorities to stop voting forever. I’m sure many will celebrate that outcome.

BTW: Don’t blacks vote 90% for dems most elections because they are looking for social programs? How is voting for dem this time suddenly racist on their part? If Obama were Rep and blacks were voting for him 90%, then you could say they were racist.

[equalizer]

partyup,

Let’s sum it up, the winner will get 269-280, very tight. Let take 2004 results and flip NM and IA. That gives 269 tie. Let give CO to Obama. +9 for dems. Throw in NV(5), dems +14. However, McCain can easily win all with PA(21) to get 276. [Ohio and PA are similar, but not the same] If Obama loses PA, it will not be because of Hillary. She has made so many speeches on his behalf. If her supporters dont vote for Obama, it will be mostly the Bradley effect and fact that Biden didn’t really bring over any voters.

If NV stays red and PA turns red, but IA+NM+VA+CO goes blue then 270-268 for Obama. 50-80,000 people at Obama rally in VA tonight is scary, but most are going to see the Boss? Isn’t Springsteen going to most of Obama’s rallies?

So, only five states in play: NM, NV, VA, CO, PA.

Obama is the underdog, even though he will likely win popular vote by millions. If he loses PA+VA and thus the EV, then there could be massive disullusionment in this country that has not been seen since the 70’s and would cause minorities to stop voting forever. I’m sure many will celebrate that outcome.

BTW: Don’t blacks vote 90% for dems most elections because they are looking for social programs? How is voting for dem this time suddenly racist on their part? If Obama were Rep and blacks were voting for him 90%, then you could say they were racist.

[equalizer]

partyup,

Let’s sum it up, the winner will get 269-280, very tight. Let take 2004 results and flip NM and IA. That gives 269 tie. Let give CO to Obama. +9 for dems. Throw in NV(5), dems +14. However, McCain can easily win all with PA(21) to get 276. [Ohio and PA are similar, but not the same] If Obama loses PA, it will not be because of Hillary. She has made so many speeches on his behalf. If her supporters dont vote for Obama, it will be mostly the Bradley effect and fact that Biden didn’t really bring over any voters.

If NV stays red and PA turns red, but IA+NM+VA+CO goes blue then 270-268 for Obama. 50-80,000 people at Obama rally in VA tonight is scary, but most are going to see the Boss? Isn’t Springsteen going to most of Obama’s rallies?

So, only five states in play: NM, NV, VA, CO, PA.

Obama is the underdog, even though he will likely win popular vote by millions. If he loses PA+VA and thus the EV, then there could be massive disullusionment in this country that has not been seen since the 70’s and would cause minorities to stop voting forever. I’m sure many will celebrate that outcome.

BTW: Don’t blacks vote 90% for dems most elections because they are looking for social programs? How is voting for dem this time suddenly racist on their part? If Obama were Rep and blacks were voting for him 90%, then you could say they were racist.

[equalizer]

partyup,

Let’s sum it up, the winner will get 269-280, very tight. Let take 2004 results and flip NM and IA. That gives 269 tie. Let give CO to Obama. +9 for dems. Throw in NV(5), dems +14. However, McCain can easily win all with PA(21) to get 276. [Ohio and PA are similar, but not the same] If Obama loses PA, it will not be because of Hillary. She has made so many speeches on his behalf. If her supporters dont vote for Obama, it will be mostly the Bradley effect and fact that Biden didn’t really bring over any voters.

If NV stays red and PA turns red, but IA+NM+VA+CO goes blue then 270-268 for Obama. 50-80,000 people at Obama rally in VA tonight is scary, but most are going to see the Boss? Isn’t Springsteen going to most of Obama’s rallies?

So, only five states in play: NM, NV, VA, CO, PA.

Obama is the underdog, even though he will likely win popular vote by millions. If he loses PA+VA and thus the EV, then there could be massive disullusionment in this country that has not been seen since the 70’s and would cause minorities to stop voting forever. I’m sure many will celebrate that outcome.

BTW: Don’t blacks vote 90% for dems most elections because they are looking for social programs? How is voting for dem this time suddenly racist on their part? If Obama were Rep and blacks were voting for him 90%, then you could say they were racist.

[equalizer]

partyup,

Let’s sum it up, the winner will get 269-280, very tight. Let take 2004 results and flip NM and IA. That gives 269 tie. Let give CO to Obama. +9 for dems. Throw in NV(5), dems +14. However, McCain can easily win all with PA(21) to get 276. [Ohio and PA are similar, but not the same] If Obama loses PA, it will not be because of Hillary. She has made so many speeches on his behalf. If her supporters dont vote for Obama, it will be mostly the Bradley effect and fact that Biden didn’t really bring over any voters.

If NV stays red and PA turns red, but IA+NM+VA+CO goes blue then 270-268 for Obama. 50-80,000 people at Obama rally in VA tonight is scary, but most are going to see the Boss? Isn’t Springsteen going to most of Obama’s rallies?

So, only five states in play: NM, NV, VA, CO, PA.

Obama is the underdog, even though he will likely win popular vote by millions. If he loses PA+VA and thus the EV, then there could be massive disullusionment in this country that has not been seen since the 70’s and would cause minorities to stop voting forever. I’m sure many will celebrate that outcome.

BTW: Don’t blacks vote 90% for dems most elections because they are looking for social programs? How is voting for dem this time suddenly racist on their part? If Obama were Rep and blacks were voting for him 90%, then you could say they were racist.

[partypup]

[quote=equalizer]partyup,

Very perceptive about the robotic comments. How bout “I’ll use my law degree to help out my aunt?”
What has he learned from Rove, toss everyone under the bus?
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Exactly! I was looking for SOME expression of interest in this woman’s fate. Anything. Even, “I’m going to make sure that she is taken care of wherever she ends up, because that’s what family does. We take care of each other. And God willing, we’ll get her ducks in a row and one day bring her back over to this country legally.”

But then again, if he didn’t help brother George in Kenya, who just wants to attend a local trade school, I’m not holding out much hope for his Auntie.

[partypup]

[quote=equalizer]partyup,

Very perceptive about the robotic comments. How bout “I’ll use my law degree to help out my aunt?”
What has he learned from Rove, toss everyone under the bus?
[/quote]

Exactly! I was looking for SOME expression of interest in this woman’s fate. Anything. Even, “I’m going to make sure that she is taken care of wherever she ends up, because that’s what family does. We take care of each other. And God willing, we’ll get her ducks in a row and one day bring her back over to this country legally.”

But then again, if he didn’t help brother George in Kenya, who just wants to attend a local trade school, I’m not holding out much hope for his Auntie.

[partypup]

[quote=equalizer]partyup,

Very perceptive about the robotic comments. How bout “I’ll use my law degree to help out my aunt?”
What has he learned from Rove, toss everyone under the bus?
[/quote]

Exactly! I was looking for SOME expression of interest in this woman’s fate. Anything. Even, “I’m going to make sure that she is taken care of wherever she ends up, because that’s what family does. We take care of each other. And God willing, we’ll get her ducks in a row and one day bring her back over to this country legally.”

But then again, if he didn’t help brother George in Kenya, who just wants to attend a local trade school, I’m not holding out much hope for his Auntie.

[partypup]

[quote=equalizer]partyup,

Very perceptive about the robotic comments. How bout “I’ll use my law degree to help out my aunt?”
What has he learned from Rove, toss everyone under the bus?
[/quote]

Exactly! I was looking for SOME expression of interest in this woman’s fate. Anything. Even, “I’m going to make sure that she is taken care of wherever she ends up, because that’s what family does. We take care of each other. And God willing, we’ll get her ducks in a row and one day bring her back over to this country legally.”

But then again, if he didn’t help brother George in Kenya, who just wants to attend a local trade school, I’m not holding out much hope for his Auntie.

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