ot. marriage is totally gay.

[NotCranky]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Gay people will be sadder. I was reading about Gay friendships, extended networks of friends arevlovers, arising because they don’t couple up and defend coupled against the world. Routine Gay marriage will NE them and their lives dull. SCCEPTED But dull, I SUPPOSE Is The PrICE paid[/quote]

It is possible, maybe likely, that many will find that broader social acceptance including marriage , doesn’t make much of a before and after difference in being happy…Deep down it won’t make much of a difference in individual self acceptance , which will continue to be a problem indefinitely.

[no_such_reality]

The best synopsis to date.

[FlyerInHi]

A Huckaban theocracy sounds dreadful. Totally devoid of arts and beauty.
I mean, look at those faces. If you hate gays so much, nobody will do your hair. Haha…

[FlyerInHi]

“Husband and Wife, as Community Property with Right of Survivorship”

I was just talking to friends over dinner earlier.
Has anyone seen a deed for a gay couple? How do they word it? Wife and wife, husband and husband?

[paramount]

There was a great article in the New York times about the growing denial of reality.

For example, there is a mindset that the gender you identify with is what you are. You’re female if somehow you identify with the female gender as an example (ie Caitlyn).

Except in the words of Austin Powers: smells like balls!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]”Husband and Wife, as Community Property with Right of Survivorship”

I was just talking to friends over dinner earlier.
Has anyone seen a deed for a gay couple? How do they word it? Wife and wife, husband and husband?[/quote]That’s a good question, FIH, but I suspect it’s still the same language in CA. I’ve seen a gay wedding on TV and the officiant still used the language, “I now pronounce you husband and wife,” as in “his husband” or “her wife.”

Actual gender of the parties has nothing to do with it.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]

Actual gender of the parties has nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Again, a denial of reality…

[svelte]

[quote=paramount]There was a great article in the New York times about the growing denial of reality.

For example, there is a mindset that the gender you identify with is what you are. You’re female if somehow you identify with the female gender as an example (ie Caitlyn).
[/quote]

Yeah I totally don’t get it either.

Gay rights, I’m all for. But this ‘T’ stuff that’s trying to tag along for the ride, I’m not buying.

If the person’s DNA says they are a male, they are a male. There’s no debate as to which bathroom or locker room they use, it is clear cut – no matter what clothes or makeup they choose to put on the outside of that DNA.

[cvmom]

I think there are a few people who really do identify with a gender other than their biological one. But that is a minority, and lots of others are just going along for the ride for the fun of it. It’s kind of like that some small subset of people are truly gluten-intolerant (celiac disease) but lots of others jumped on the bandwagon because it is fashionable.

I am an extremely liberal person, but I really had to laugh at the choices on the CalTech application under gender: heterosexual, straight, lesbian, gay, bisexual, pansexual, queer, asexual, cisgender, intersex, transgender, transsexual, non-gender binary, gender fluid, or unsure/questioning. Wow! How’s a high-school student supposed to choose from that list?

[NotCranky]

[quote=cvmom]I think there are a few people who really do identify with a gender other than their biological one. But that is a minority, and lots of others are just going along for the ride for the fun of it. It’s kind of like that some small subset of people are truly gluten-intolerant (celiac disease) but lots of others jumped on the bandwagon because it is fashionable.

I am an extremely liberal person, but I really had to laugh at the choices on the CalTech application under gender: heterosexual, straight, lesbian, gay, bisexual, pansexual, queer, asexual, cisgender, intersex, transgender, transsexual, non-gender binary, gender fluid, or unsure/questioning. Wow! How’s a high-school student supposed to choose from that list?[/quote]

Of course there is humor in some of this ,but I am for removing stigma for people who deal with this , even if it is just a little confusion to work through.
Now they can get on with their homework.

[scaredyclassic]

Reality is fluid.

Younger people seem OK with this.

If you rant too much about this topic you risk sounding old.

Damn transsexusls, get off my lawn!!!

[NotCranky]

Reality fluid. What is considered fun and entertaining is fluid.
Now we can have new world records at things.

First person ever to win olympic decathlon as a man and then a woman, There will even be a record for who did that amazing feat it in the shortest number of elapsed years.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/01/22/olympics-allow-transsexuals-to-compete-under-gender-they-identify-with/

[cvmom]

[quote=Blogstar][quote=cvmom]I think there are a few people who really do identify with a gender other than their biological one. But that is a minority, and lots of others are just going along for the ride for the fun of it. It’s kind of like that some small subset of people are truly gluten-intolerant (celiac disease) but lots of others jumped on the bandwagon because it is fashionable.

I am an extremely liberal person, but I really had to laugh at the choices on the CalTech application under gender: heterosexual, straight, lesbian, gay, bisexual, pansexual, queer, asexual, cisgender, intersex, transgender, transsexual, non-gender binary, gender fluid, or unsure/questioning. Wow! How’s a high-school student supposed to choose from that list?[/quote]

Of course there is humor in some of this ,but I am for removing stigma for people who deal with this , even if it is just a little confusion to work through.
Now they can get on with their homework.[/quote]

Excellent point.

[Doofrat]

[quote=svelte][quote=paramount]There was a great article in the New York times about the growing denial of reality.

For example, there is a mindset that the gender you identify with is what you are. You’re female if somehow you identify with the female gender as an example (ie Caitlyn).
[/quote]

Yeah I totally don’t get it either.

Gay rights, I’m all for. But this ‘T’ stuff that’s trying to tag along for the ride, I’m not buying.

If the person’s DNA says they are a male, they are a male. There’s no debate as to which bathroom or locker room they use, it is clear cut – no matter what clothes or makeup they choose to put on the outside of that DNA.[/quote]

So you’re saying these “Men” in the picture (from Wikipedia article on androgen insensitivity) should use the Mens restroom and wear Men’s clothes because they are genetically men, even though they have the body and genitalia of females. [img_assist|nid=25711|title=AI|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=56]

[svelte]

[quote=doofrat][quote=svelte][quote=paramount]There was a great article in the New York times about the growing denial of reality.

For example, there is a mindset that the gender you identify with is what you are. You’re female if somehow you identify with the female gender as an example (ie Caitlyn).
[/quote]

Yeah I totally don’t get it either.

Gay rights, I’m all for. But this ‘T’ stuff that’s trying to tag along for the ride, I’m not buying.

If the person’s DNA says they are a male, they are a male. There’s no debate as to which bathroom or locker room they use, it is clear cut – no matter what clothes or makeup they choose to put on the outside of that DNA.[/quote]

So you’re saying these “Men” in the picture (from Wikipedia article on androgen insensitivity) should use the Mens restroom and wear Men’s clothes because they are genetically men, even though they have the body and genitalia of females. [/quote]

Don’t know how I can be more clear. If they have an X and a Y chromosome, use the men’s room buddy.

[quote=cvmom]
I think there are a few people who really do identify with a gender other than their biological one. But that is a minority, and lots of others are just going along for the ride for the fun of it.[/quote]

That’s all fine and good. I don’t care who they really identify with. I don’t even care if they are along for the ride. Go for it – dress however you want! I’m good with it! Just use the appropriate restroom for your DNA.

Really I think this whole issue (won’t call it a problem because its not) could be solved with unisex bathrooms full of individual stalls. I’d be all for that.

Why us guys accept a row of urinals is beyond me. I think the women’s room should have a row of toilets without walls for women who are just doing #1…same difference, right? I would have thought women would be against urinals in men’s rooms too cuz it is their guy standing there risking splash back time and time again. Their guy who they’ll be doing who knows what with later. Not to get too graphic, but this is never talked about.

[Author]

Posts