OT: Lost Vegas

[jficquette]

[quote=CONCHO]Wow, pretty depressing. It’s a good thing that will never happen here in San Diego.[/quote]

Let the state lay off 250k workers and cut out welfare and social programs and you will see things get much worst here then ever thought possible.

[jpinpb]

I was thinking the same thing. Our State’s finances right now don’t look much better, as we have been discussing on the Schwarzenegger thread

Maybe CONCHO was being sarcastic.

[jpinpb]

I was thinking the same thing. Our State’s finances right now don’t look much better, as we have been discussing on the Schwarzenegger thread

Maybe CONCHO was being sarcastic.

[jpinpb]

I was thinking the same thing. Our State’s finances right now don’t look much better, as we have been discussing on the Schwarzenegger thread

Maybe CONCHO was being sarcastic.

[jpinpb]

I was thinking the same thing. Our State’s finances right now don’t look much better, as we have been discussing on the Schwarzenegger thread

Maybe CONCHO was being sarcastic.

[jpinpb]

I was thinking the same thing. Our State’s finances right now don’t look much better, as we have been discussing on the Schwarzenegger thread

Maybe CONCHO was being sarcastic.

[svelte]

I agree with John too.

But I think Arnold’s position is just his beginning position, like all good negotiators do.

I just got back from a few days in Vegas and can tell you it was pretty dead for a holiday weekend. Stats that I saw on the news there:

– Rooms rates down 30% yoy
– Visitors down 15% yoy
– Convention attendees down 30% yoy

This sounds bad enough but doesn’t really hit home without an on-site visit…

We visited with some residents who have a new hobby – pointing out newly constructed – COMPLETE – stores that have not been occupied and won’t be for some time. The one that sticks out in my mind was a Taco Bell complete with signs…vacant and with no plans to open.

One of our friends there works for a local engineering firm who said the management feels there won’t be a need to design a new building in Vegas – casino or commerical – for 5 to 10 years. They’ve laid off 25% of their staff with more to come (luckily they are surviving from work imported from other locations).

We visited the 2-month old M Resort at the peak of Sat night on a holiday weekend…if I didn’t know better I would have thought it was a Monday night on a normal work week. Very slow, ratio of staff to guests was extremely out of whack. More cuts are coming out Vegas way, for sure.

[svelte]

I agree with John too.

But I think Arnold’s position is just his beginning position, like all good negotiators do.

I just got back from a few days in Vegas and can tell you it was pretty dead for a holiday weekend. Stats that I saw on the news there:

– Rooms rates down 30% yoy
– Visitors down 15% yoy
– Convention attendees down 30% yoy

This sounds bad enough but doesn’t really hit home without an on-site visit…

We visited with some residents who have a new hobby – pointing out newly constructed – COMPLETE – stores that have not been occupied and won’t be for some time. The one that sticks out in my mind was a Taco Bell complete with signs…vacant and with no plans to open.

One of our friends there works for a local engineering firm who said the management feels there won’t be a need to design a new building in Vegas – casino or commerical – for 5 to 10 years. They’ve laid off 25% of their staff with more to come (luckily they are surviving from work imported from other locations).

We visited the 2-month old M Resort at the peak of Sat night on a holiday weekend…if I didn’t know better I would have thought it was a Monday night on a normal work week. Very slow, ratio of staff to guests was extremely out of whack. More cuts are coming out Vegas way, for sure.

[svelte]

I agree with John too.

But I think Arnold’s position is just his beginning position, like all good negotiators do.

I just got back from a few days in Vegas and can tell you it was pretty dead for a holiday weekend. Stats that I saw on the news there:

– Rooms rates down 30% yoy
– Visitors down 15% yoy
– Convention attendees down 30% yoy

This sounds bad enough but doesn’t really hit home without an on-site visit…

We visited with some residents who have a new hobby – pointing out newly constructed – COMPLETE – stores that have not been occupied and won’t be for some time. The one that sticks out in my mind was a Taco Bell complete with signs…vacant and with no plans to open.

One of our friends there works for a local engineering firm who said the management feels there won’t be a need to design a new building in Vegas – casino or commerical – for 5 to 10 years. They’ve laid off 25% of their staff with more to come (luckily they are surviving from work imported from other locations).

We visited the 2-month old M Resort at the peak of Sat night on a holiday weekend…if I didn’t know better I would have thought it was a Monday night on a normal work week. Very slow, ratio of staff to guests was extremely out of whack. More cuts are coming out Vegas way, for sure.

[svelte]

I agree with John too.

But I think Arnold’s position is just his beginning position, like all good negotiators do.

I just got back from a few days in Vegas and can tell you it was pretty dead for a holiday weekend. Stats that I saw on the news there:

– Rooms rates down 30% yoy
– Visitors down 15% yoy
– Convention attendees down 30% yoy

This sounds bad enough but doesn’t really hit home without an on-site visit…

We visited with some residents who have a new hobby – pointing out newly constructed – COMPLETE – stores that have not been occupied and won’t be for some time. The one that sticks out in my mind was a Taco Bell complete with signs…vacant and with no plans to open.

One of our friends there works for a local engineering firm who said the management feels there won’t be a need to design a new building in Vegas – casino or commerical – for 5 to 10 years. They’ve laid off 25% of their staff with more to come (luckily they are surviving from work imported from other locations).

We visited the 2-month old M Resort at the peak of Sat night on a holiday weekend…if I didn’t know better I would have thought it was a Monday night on a normal work week. Very slow, ratio of staff to guests was extremely out of whack. More cuts are coming out Vegas way, for sure.

[svelte]

I agree with John too.

But I think Arnold’s position is just his beginning position, like all good negotiators do.

I just got back from a few days in Vegas and can tell you it was pretty dead for a holiday weekend. Stats that I saw on the news there:

– Rooms rates down 30% yoy
– Visitors down 15% yoy
– Convention attendees down 30% yoy

This sounds bad enough but doesn’t really hit home without an on-site visit…

We visited with some residents who have a new hobby – pointing out newly constructed – COMPLETE – stores that have not been occupied and won’t be for some time. The one that sticks out in my mind was a Taco Bell complete with signs…vacant and with no plans to open.

One of our friends there works for a local engineering firm who said the management feels there won’t be a need to design a new building in Vegas – casino or commerical – for 5 to 10 years. They’ve laid off 25% of their staff with more to come (luckily they are surviving from work imported from other locations).

We visited the 2-month old M Resort at the peak of Sat night on a holiday weekend…if I didn’t know better I would have thought it was a Monday night on a normal work week. Very slow, ratio of staff to guests was extremely out of whack. More cuts are coming out Vegas way, for sure.

[patientrenter]

I thought it was a good program. I watched the whole thing. And I agree with jpnpb that it highlighted a situation that should be fixed – renters evicted with virtually no notice from homes that went into foreclosure without their knowledge.

Having said that, I kept wondering why the interviewer injected a few leading questions into her interviews, implying that all the growth experienced in the US (not just LV) since the 1980’s (Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, wink, wink) was a mirage. Let’s ignore the fact that, for example, the years since the 1980’s have seen our work and home lives transformed by the PC and the internet.

I looked up the TV station (current.com) and see that it’s sponsored by Al Gore. I am sure he’s done a lot of decent things, and the station produces a lot of good programming, but I am also sure that any station sponsored by a leading light of one of our dominant political parties will have an agenda and a bias, and that came through in a few spots in this program. Otherwise, very good and very enjoyable.

[patientrenter]

I thought it was a good program. I watched the whole thing. And I agree with jpnpb that it highlighted a situation that should be fixed – renters evicted with virtually no notice from homes that went into foreclosure without their knowledge.

Having said that, I kept wondering why the interviewer injected a few leading questions into her interviews, implying that all the growth experienced in the US (not just LV) since the 1980’s (Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, wink, wink) was a mirage. Let’s ignore the fact that, for example, the years since the 1980’s have seen our work and home lives transformed by the PC and the internet.

I looked up the TV station (current.com) and see that it’s sponsored by Al Gore. I am sure he’s done a lot of decent things, and the station produces a lot of good programming, but I am also sure that any station sponsored by a leading light of one of our dominant political parties will have an agenda and a bias, and that came through in a few spots in this program. Otherwise, very good and very enjoyable.

[patientrenter]

I thought it was a good program. I watched the whole thing. And I agree with jpnpb that it highlighted a situation that should be fixed – renters evicted with virtually no notice from homes that went into foreclosure without their knowledge.

Having said that, I kept wondering why the interviewer injected a few leading questions into her interviews, implying that all the growth experienced in the US (not just LV) since the 1980’s (Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, wink, wink) was a mirage. Let’s ignore the fact that, for example, the years since the 1980’s have seen our work and home lives transformed by the PC and the internet.

I looked up the TV station (current.com) and see that it’s sponsored by Al Gore. I am sure he’s done a lot of decent things, and the station produces a lot of good programming, but I am also sure that any station sponsored by a leading light of one of our dominant political parties will have an agenda and a bias, and that came through in a few spots in this program. Otherwise, very good and very enjoyable.

[patientrenter]

I thought it was a good program. I watched the whole thing. And I agree with jpnpb that it highlighted a situation that should be fixed – renters evicted with virtually no notice from homes that went into foreclosure without their knowledge.

Having said that, I kept wondering why the interviewer injected a few leading questions into her interviews, implying that all the growth experienced in the US (not just LV) since the 1980’s (Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, wink, wink) was a mirage. Let’s ignore the fact that, for example, the years since the 1980’s have seen our work and home lives transformed by the PC and the internet.

I looked up the TV station (current.com) and see that it’s sponsored by Al Gore. I am sure he’s done a lot of decent things, and the station produces a lot of good programming, but I am also sure that any station sponsored by a leading light of one of our dominant political parties will have an agenda and a bias, and that came through in a few spots in this program. Otherwise, very good and very enjoyable.

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