OT: How much baggage will you accept?

[svelte]

[quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi]
I understand that a sought after woman expects at least 2 carats. [/quote]

If a woman “expects” at least 2 carats, she’s only sought after by idiots, in my opinion.[/quote]

Agreed. If I was dating a woman and she let it be known that the wedding ring would have to be 2 carats or more, I would head for the hills.

Utter nonsense.

[zk]

[quote=CA renter]

but these men will expect these women to spend an inordinate amount of time, money, and energy on their looks.
[/quote]

Like I said, idiots. If physical beauty is your priority such that you’re willing to pursue a beautiful woman whose priority is money (instead of a woman whom you love, whose priorities are similar to yours, whom you have fun with etc.), then you’re an idiot in my book. No matter how rich you are.

Rich shallow guy and beautiful shallow woman might deserve each other (they’re both 2s, if you ask me), but I highly doubt they’ll be happy for longer than it takes for her to own half his stuff. Which he’ll deserve at that point.

[quote=CA renter]
Most people have an oar in the water and are willing to pull hard,[/quote]
I think most people aren’t willing to pull hard at all, And I think lack of oar pullage explains the high divorce rate.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
50000 for a ring????,

I barely had my whole life insured for that much when I got married[/quote]

$50k for a ring is quite common. I notice them all the time. Next time, just look at the shiny big rock.

Often times, people can’t afford the ring when they get married. But after a while they do upgrade it like they would upgrade other things. Some women buy it themselves.

It seems idiotic to upgrade the engagement ring after the fact, long after marriage. But people do it all the time…. Just the way of the world.

Think of the ring as an heirloom that belongs to the family and will be passed on to future generations.

[FlyerInHi]

I know a beautiful women (32) with a rich old guy (near 80) I think.

I know her not to be shallow because she dated a friend and she’s now my friend. She very kind and take good care of her family.

She grew up poor but was well brought up and has good values.

The old man is not shallow either. He bought her a $500,000 townhouse, $100,000 to decorate it. A $130,000 Mercedes and a $60,000 lexus suv because the Mercedes is too much to drive everyday. Even bought a house for her mom. The guy put everything in her name and even wants to help the mom start a business.

They are not married because the old guy was married before and doesn’t want marriage. They don’t even live together so the woman has a lot of freedom. She has a monthly stipend, but she saves it to invest. She already owns a rental property.

She is naturally beautiful, has easy style and elegance. She was not even looking for a rich guy. It just happened.

Anyway, I was talking to her and she said she’s always met good luck so she trying to pay it back. She’s an immigrant and came to America at age 19 with her aunt. By age 28, she’d saved enough to bring her mom and 2 younger siblings over here. Compare to most people who have trouble paying for their own kids’ college.

[zk]

[quote=FlyerInHi]

I know her not to be shallow[/quote]

Doesn’t sound like she “expected” a 2-carat ring.

[zk]

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[zk]

That story, as you tell it, Brian, is very strange. You have lots of strange ideas, and your take on this story is one of them.

I’m not sure how you see this as anything other than a sugar daddy situation.

[FlyerInHi]

Expecting and demanding are different.
In social settings there are certain expectations. For example a woman’s family is expected to pay for a certain wedding. They usually do it because that’s what is expected of them. And they even take pride in fulfilling or even outdoing the expectations.

[njtosd]

[quote=Blogstar]

You don’t get it, Brian. I knew you wouldn’t. NO 4 EVER MARRIES AN 8….EVER. No 8 EVER MARRIES A 4.

[/quote]

None of you get it. There is no absolute scale – to each his own. Hopefully you’ve all found people who’ve made you happy (and hopefully kev374 will as well, although he needs to mentally cut this one loose and move on). You guys (and from what I’ve seen of this discussion, it’s mostly guys) should skip the ego trip and spend more time figuring out what makes you happy. Hopefully you don’t discover that happiness is having a vacuous but well turned out wife on your arm, but I guess “to each his own is beautiful” – thanks to scaredy for that full quote – hadn’t ever heard it before. Life’s too short to spend it trying to impress others.

[scaredyclassic]

Actually there is definitely a scale and we all fall upon it.

This isn’t some pretend thing in one’s head.

We all have an actual number…It’s subjective in part and within a range. But we all have a number.

Don’t date out of your lane

[NotCranky]

njtosd,

If you don’t get that my using the scale is rhetorical to bridge gaps in the conversation with a twinge of dark humor, not absolute…well you don’t get it!
I imagine everyone gets that there is no absolute scale.

[NotCranky]

At the extremes, the trophy wife and the trophy wife seeking seem to be succumbing to some kind of neurosis. So I suppose they are not really to be laughed at either.

[scaredyclassic]

Everyone gets a trophy for participation

[FlyerInHi]

Zk, the woman is my friend and she’s always been nice to me. She likes me because I convinced someone to support her in a past endeavor when other people were against her. Anyway, I choose to see her side rather than just reduce her situation to that of a kept woman.

She’s very intelligent and capable. I thInk her intrinsic worth is quite high.

[scaredyclassic]

Love isn’t blind and neither are genetics.

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