OT: How to get rid of the tire around your waist

[NotCranky]

I have almost always been pretty reasonable on diet and fitness. The only time I wanted to lose some weight , which had gradually accumulated over 25 years and then increased a little more dramatically than ever in a brief time , it came off very fast. I went form 218 to 185 in a matter of about 3 months but I was pretty fit underneath from the start and I am 6’5″.

If you are not fit underneath the flab you should be more patient while you build a better diet routine. I do think you can do it with just diet ,like some have mentioned, but exercise helps deal with aging in lots of ways.

Exercise gently and if you have any intention of going harder do it very gradually, over a year or more, not months. Connective tissue take a lot longer to get injury proof than muscles do. Cardio comes along pretty fast so it’s easier to work harder than what the body can really deal with from and injury point and with becoming fatigued in general, like Brian mentioned.

I do a lot of different type exercises, cardio 4 or 5 times a week, weights or body weight routines two or three time a week and I work out pretty hard. If I washed 3 cars I might call that an exercise day though. I keep a log. Usually 45 min to 1 hour ,but I run or bike longer than that sometimes. I take days off if I need to turn away from fatigue, or just because. I take a month or so off once a year.

I bought treadmill sometime last year. I really like it, use the elliptical sometimes but it’s my least favorite.. I do backwards running and walking on steep incline and side stepping and soccer/bask ball type drills on the treadmill besides normal running. It is making me pretty fit.

[CA renter]

Congratulations on coming to the end of your chemo treatment, flu! That is wonderful news. 🙂

Lots of good advice here, but I especially like what OCR, Jazzman, and exsdgal wrote. Go slowly. Most people who lose weight quickly gain it back, and more, just as quickly. It’s a lifestyle change, not a diet and exercise program, so enjoy whatever it is that you eat and do. If not, any success will be short-lived.

Enjoy this new phase of your life! You deserve it after all you’ve been through.

[CA renter]

OCR, congratulations on your weight loss. Sounds like you’ve made some very wise changes.

I always enjoy these threads because they motivate me to make better choices. Thanks to everyone for sharing your ideas and experiences.

[Jazzman]

OCR is right about the food industry. There is so much evidence of this. I’m not convinced by the city planning argument. It plays a role but is not as significant as other factors.

[CA renter]

What’s the city planning argument?

[FlyerInHi]

How timely. New book on soda:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/05/how-coca-cola-gets-its-way/

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Jazzman]OCR is right about the food industry. There is so much evidence of this. I’m not convinced by the city planning argument. It plays a role but is not as significant as other factors.[/quote]

Untimately, it’s up to the individual to match calorie intake to calorie expended.

For overall population health, city planning, access to food, cooking knowledge, addictive properties of food, etc… all play a role.

Food culture evolved when we needed to do a lot of physical activity. Now, many of us live sedentary lives. Why do we insist on eating the same old food, but even richer in calories?

For lunch, burger and fries or Thai mixed veggies with a little chicken?

[moneymaker]

Flu sounds like you are doing things right if you are really losing 8 lbs. in 2 months just have to keep it up. To lose that amount of weight you are basically burning 500 more calories than you are taking in per day, that is the best way to lose weight, slow but sure. When I feel like I’m gaining a little too much I hit the treadmill while watching TV. In 30 minutes I will burn 252 calories, that’s 1 oz of fat. So an hour on the treadmill equals 1/4 cup of fat burned. Now granted, running on the beach may be more fun, for me that’s not an option at this time.

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=ocrenter]
true, we have created a bunch of these obesogenic cities in the last 50 years.

http://www.upworthy.com/i-never-realized-how-dumb-our-cities-are-until-i-saw-what-a-smart-one-looks-like
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Wow. I woke up to pleasant surprise this morning. That video is what I’ve been dreaming about housing wise.
I want to retire where there are condos stacked on top of stores, near mass transit and community parks.

My BMI is 21 to 21.5 since college. I credit my grandmother for showing me how to eat decades before it became fashionable. it’s automatic once you learn. I eat out a lot but what to order has become intuitive. No salt or low salt because salt is in everything.[/quote]

Re: salt. You may very well be doing more harm than good. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/04/06/more-scientists-doubt-salt-is-as-bad-for-you-as-the-government-says/

Do you ever question your rather self-congratulatory beliefs?

[scaredyclassic]

i believe we should always have a least some pretzels in our pocket

[zk]

[quote=no_such_reality]

The elliptical is nice for catching up on Netflix while you think you’re working out.[/quote]

You’re doing it wrong.

Like any other exercise, it can be effective or not, depending on how you do it. I went from 21% body fat to 12% body fat over about a year, and have stayed there for 8 years, with no lifestyle changes other than exercising on the elliptical. I have more muscle and my resting heart rate went from 63 to 51.

It’s hard (or it was for me, anyway) to get your heart rate to your maximum heart rate at first, because the muscles you use aren’t built up enough. My muscles tired before I could get the aerobic/anaerobic exercise I wanted. After a couple months, that was no longer the case. I am able to train at maximum intensity (using intervals), and 37 minutes every other day is all I need to keep the weight off/muscle on/heart rate down.

And, as a bonus, no injuries in 9 years of doing the workout.

[Coronita]

Quick question… Is there anything wrong with lifting weights everyday? Some say one should go every other day to let your body recover. Others say it’s not a big deal. I figure 1/2 hr in the morning before work and then about 45 mins at night isn’t that much, especially since I’m not really lifting the maximum weights that I can right now…

The other thing is anyone know how much a colon weigh?

I’m trying to compare my weight before all the medical shit happened and after. Right before medical shit, I think my weight was about 179..(which was slightly over). Then they took out my colon, and I think that was about 6-7lbs less, around 172-173, but maybe that was also due partly to me not eating much after surgery and being on a liquid diet. 2 years later on chemo, they told me to eat as much as I can so I went to around 182-3 without the colon…. I’m back down to 174/5, which probably means I’m still over my original weight.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]i believe we should always have a least some pretzels in our pocket[/quote]

Yep. That’ll take care of salt need.

Unless one makes everything fresh from scratch and deliberate avoids salt, in sauces, etc., there is hardly any worry about getting too little.

You know health when you see it. My 94 yo auntie had not gone to the doctors in 2 years (she used to go twice a year because she had a young handsome doctor at UCSD whom she liked; but he moved away) . Social security called her in because they were worried they were paying a dead person!

[NotCranky]

[quote=flu]Quick question… Is there anything wrong with lifting weights everyday? Some say one should go every other day to let your body recover. Others say it’s not a big deal. I figure 1/2 hr in the morning before work and then about 45 mins at night isn’t that much, especially since I’m not really lifting the maximum weights that I can right now…
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That’s actually quite a bit of time for weight lifting.

[Coronita]

[quote=Blogstar][quote=flu]Quick question… Is there anything wrong with lifting weights everyday? Some say one should go every other day to let your body recover. Others say it’s not a big deal. I figure 1/2 hr in the morning before work and then about 45 mins at night isn’t that much, especially since I’m not really lifting the maximum weights that I can right now…
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That’s actually quite a bit of time for weight lifting.[/quote]

That might explain why I am sore all over. Oops.

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