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April 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM #380885April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM #380259CoronitaParticipant
[quote=abell]My children’s doctor’s office (Scripps Rancho Bernardo clinic) offers a 40% discount if you pay after your visit (we don’t have health insurance right now). So my guess is that the actual cost is somewhere close to 40% off the list price, at least at that office. [/quote]
Abell, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your reason for not having insurance? Cost? Do you have issues being able to get insurance? Just curious.
April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM #380532CoronitaParticipant[quote=abell]My children’s doctor’s office (Scripps Rancho Bernardo clinic) offers a 40% discount if you pay after your visit (we don’t have health insurance right now). So my guess is that the actual cost is somewhere close to 40% off the list price, at least at that office. [/quote]
Abell, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your reason for not having insurance? Cost? Do you have issues being able to get insurance? Just curious.
April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM #380720CoronitaParticipant[quote=abell]My children’s doctor’s office (Scripps Rancho Bernardo clinic) offers a 40% discount if you pay after your visit (we don’t have health insurance right now). So my guess is that the actual cost is somewhere close to 40% off the list price, at least at that office. [/quote]
Abell, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your reason for not having insurance? Cost? Do you have issues being able to get insurance? Just curious.
April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM #380767CoronitaParticipant[quote=abell]My children’s doctor’s office (Scripps Rancho Bernardo clinic) offers a 40% discount if you pay after your visit (we don’t have health insurance right now). So my guess is that the actual cost is somewhere close to 40% off the list price, at least at that office. [/quote]
Abell, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your reason for not having insurance? Cost? Do you have issues being able to get insurance? Just curious.
April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM #380895CoronitaParticipant[quote=abell]My children’s doctor’s office (Scripps Rancho Bernardo clinic) offers a 40% discount if you pay after your visit (we don’t have health insurance right now). So my guess is that the actual cost is somewhere close to 40% off the list price, at least at that office. [/quote]
Abell, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your reason for not having insurance? Cost? Do you have issues being able to get insurance? Just curious.
April 14, 2009 at 3:48 AM #380461CA renter
Participant[quote=jpinpb]I have to say I’ve experienced treatment both w/insurance and w/out. When you don’t have insurance, they don’t treat you very well, limit time, attention and care. The cost is still very high, regardless.
When you have insurance, they are more inclined to perform tests.
In either situation, what I’ve noticed is that they tend to address the symptoms rather than treat. They will readily dispense meds and recommend surgery. They will not cure your problem or even really attempt to get at the root of the problem.
THAT is what I find an issue. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more.
There’s too much profit in pills and various “treatments,” and I’ve seen far too few doctors who actually try to address the underlying issues. Masking symptoms with expensive treatments is what our for-profit healthcare system is designed for. They are only profitable when people are sick and receiving “treatments” for the rest of their lives. If everyone were healthy, they would go out of business. Can’t have that!
Oftentimes, an illness can be addressed (often **cured**) through minor or major lifestyle changes, with NO dangerous side-effects. But the medical industry can’t make money if people just added/deleted a particular kind of food, or changed their schedule around, or changed their exercise habits.
(Don’t get me started!) 😉
April 14, 2009 at 3:48 AM #380733Participant[quote=jpinpb]I have to say I’ve experienced treatment both w/insurance and w/out. When you don’t have insurance, they don’t treat you very well, limit time, attention and care. The cost is still very high, regardless.
When you have insurance, they are more inclined to perform tests.
In either situation, what I’ve noticed is that they tend to address the symptoms rather than treat. They will readily dispense meds and recommend surgery. They will not cure your problem or even really attempt to get at the root of the problem.
THAT is what I find an issue. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more.
There’s too much profit in pills and various “treatments,” and I’ve seen far too few doctors who actually try to address the underlying issues. Masking symptoms with expensive treatments is what our for-profit healthcare system is designed for. They are only profitable when people are sick and receiving “treatments” for the rest of their lives. If everyone were healthy, they would go out of business. Can’t have that!
Oftentimes, an illness can be addressed (often **cured**) through minor or major lifestyle changes, with NO dangerous side-effects. But the medical industry can’t make money if people just added/deleted a particular kind of food, or changed their schedule around, or changed their exercise habits.
(Don’t get me started!) 😉
April 14, 2009 at 3:48 AM #380920Participant[quote=jpinpb]I have to say I’ve experienced treatment both w/insurance and w/out. When you don’t have insurance, they don’t treat you very well, limit time, attention and care. The cost is still very high, regardless.
When you have insurance, they are more inclined to perform tests.
In either situation, what I’ve noticed is that they tend to address the symptoms rather than treat. They will readily dispense meds and recommend surgery. They will not cure your problem or even really attempt to get at the root of the problem.
THAT is what I find an issue. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more.
There’s too much profit in pills and various “treatments,” and I’ve seen far too few doctors who actually try to address the underlying issues. Masking symptoms with expensive treatments is what our for-profit healthcare system is designed for. They are only profitable when people are sick and receiving “treatments” for the rest of their lives. If everyone were healthy, they would go out of business. Can’t have that!
Oftentimes, an illness can be addressed (often **cured**) through minor or major lifestyle changes, with NO dangerous side-effects. But the medical industry can’t make money if people just added/deleted a particular kind of food, or changed their schedule around, or changed their exercise habits.
(Don’t get me started!) 😉
April 14, 2009 at 3:48 AM #380968Participant[quote=jpinpb]I have to say I’ve experienced treatment both w/insurance and w/out. When you don’t have insurance, they don’t treat you very well, limit time, attention and care. The cost is still very high, regardless.
When you have insurance, they are more inclined to perform tests.
In either situation, what I’ve noticed is that they tend to address the symptoms rather than treat. They will readily dispense meds and recommend surgery. They will not cure your problem or even really attempt to get at the root of the problem.
THAT is what I find an issue. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more.
There’s too much profit in pills and various “treatments,” and I’ve seen far too few doctors who actually try to address the underlying issues. Masking symptoms with expensive treatments is what our for-profit healthcare system is designed for. They are only profitable when people are sick and receiving “treatments” for the rest of their lives. If everyone were healthy, they would go out of business. Can’t have that!
Oftentimes, an illness can be addressed (often **cured**) through minor or major lifestyle changes, with NO dangerous side-effects. But the medical industry can’t make money if people just added/deleted a particular kind of food, or changed their schedule around, or changed their exercise habits.
(Don’t get me started!) 😉
April 14, 2009 at 3:48 AM #381097Participant[quote=jpinpb]I have to say I’ve experienced treatment both w/insurance and w/out. When you don’t have insurance, they don’t treat you very well, limit time, attention and care. The cost is still very high, regardless.
When you have insurance, they are more inclined to perform tests.
In either situation, what I’ve noticed is that they tend to address the symptoms rather than treat. They will readily dispense meds and recommend surgery. They will not cure your problem or even really attempt to get at the root of the problem.
THAT is what I find an issue. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more.
There’s too much profit in pills and various “treatments,” and I’ve seen far too few doctors who actually try to address the underlying issues. Masking symptoms with expensive treatments is what our for-profit healthcare system is designed for. They are only profitable when people are sick and receiving “treatments” for the rest of their lives. If everyone were healthy, they would go out of business. Can’t have that!
Oftentimes, an illness can be addressed (often **cured**) through minor or major lifestyle changes, with NO dangerous side-effects. But the medical industry can’t make money if people just added/deleted a particular kind of food, or changed their schedule around, or changed their exercise habits.
(Don’t get me started!) 😉
April 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM #380509jpinpb
ParticipantCA renter – no, don’t get ME started. A lot of people suffer with illnesses/pain and if doctors were actually competent in diagnosing the underlying cause many people would be healthier. I’ve had to practically try to over the years diagnose myself b/c the doctors were all guessing and shooting in the dark. But if I wanted pills or surgery, they were all ready to dispense and cut. So frustrating.
April 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM #380783ParticipantCA renter – no, don’t get ME started. A lot of people suffer with illnesses/pain and if doctors were actually competent in diagnosing the underlying cause many people would be healthier. I’ve had to practically try to over the years diagnose myself b/c the doctors were all guessing and shooting in the dark. But if I wanted pills or surgery, they were all ready to dispense and cut. So frustrating.
April 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM #380970ParticipantCA renter – no, don’t get ME started. A lot of people suffer with illnesses/pain and if doctors were actually competent in diagnosing the underlying cause many people would be healthier. I’ve had to practically try to over the years diagnose myself b/c the doctors were all guessing and shooting in the dark. But if I wanted pills or surgery, they were all ready to dispense and cut. So frustrating.
April 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM #381018ParticipantCA renter – no, don’t get ME started. A lot of people suffer with illnesses/pain and if doctors were actually competent in diagnosing the underlying cause many people would be healthier. I’ve had to practically try to over the years diagnose myself b/c the doctors were all guessing and shooting in the dark. But if I wanted pills or surgery, they were all ready to dispense and cut. So frustrating.
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