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April 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM #380008April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM #379392CoronitaParticipant
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flu,the other outrage is that person who doesn’t have insurance is billed the full rate with no discount. Does that item cost $200 or $1000?? No wonder that many people cant afford to pay the bill and hospitals raise the retail prices to $1100 next year.[/quote]
Yes, and no. At a hospital, where emregency care needs to be given, whether it could be paid or not, I would suspect a good portion just claims “economic hardship” and the debt would be forgiven or a good portion thereof. The problems are probably circular. The fact that hospitals cannot deny service to people who cannot pay for the bills (even folks who are not legally here) is another issue.
I’m not saying hospital service should be denied to folks that can’t pay…….It just seems like this healthcare system is the next thing to implode…People who can afford to pay, don’t need to pay for more because they have insurance. Insurance who collect from companies and people don’t pay for enough for the service, and people that can’t get insurance or aren’t here legally, often don’t need to pay anything at all at emergency care. And the remaining folks in none of the above categories pay full price (which I don’t know is what percentage).
I don’t know. Having these insurance co’s…and seeing all the service I got…This is in one case, I really do think I should be paying more for medical care.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if hospitals receive any funding/grants from the government, and under what situation(s)?
April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM #379663CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer]
flu,the other outrage is that person who doesn’t have insurance is billed the full rate with no discount. Does that item cost $200 or $1000?? No wonder that many people cant afford to pay the bill and hospitals raise the retail prices to $1100 next year.[/quote]
Yes, and no. At a hospital, where emregency care needs to be given, whether it could be paid or not, I would suspect a good portion just claims “economic hardship” and the debt would be forgiven or a good portion thereof. The problems are probably circular. The fact that hospitals cannot deny service to people who cannot pay for the bills (even folks who are not legally here) is another issue.
I’m not saying hospital service should be denied to folks that can’t pay…….It just seems like this healthcare system is the next thing to implode…People who can afford to pay, don’t need to pay for more because they have insurance. Insurance who collect from companies and people don’t pay for enough for the service, and people that can’t get insurance or aren’t here legally, often don’t need to pay anything at all at emergency care. And the remaining folks in none of the above categories pay full price (which I don’t know is what percentage).
I don’t know. Having these insurance co’s…and seeing all the service I got…This is in one case, I really do think I should be paying more for medical care.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if hospitals receive any funding/grants from the government, and under what situation(s)?
April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM #379846CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer]
flu,the other outrage is that person who doesn’t have insurance is billed the full rate with no discount. Does that item cost $200 or $1000?? No wonder that many people cant afford to pay the bill and hospitals raise the retail prices to $1100 next year.[/quote]
Yes, and no. At a hospital, where emregency care needs to be given, whether it could be paid or not, I would suspect a good portion just claims “economic hardship” and the debt would be forgiven or a good portion thereof. The problems are probably circular. The fact that hospitals cannot deny service to people who cannot pay for the bills (even folks who are not legally here) is another issue.
I’m not saying hospital service should be denied to folks that can’t pay…….It just seems like this healthcare system is the next thing to implode…People who can afford to pay, don’t need to pay for more because they have insurance. Insurance who collect from companies and people don’t pay for enough for the service, and people that can’t get insurance or aren’t here legally, often don’t need to pay anything at all at emergency care. And the remaining folks in none of the above categories pay full price (which I don’t know is what percentage).
I don’t know. Having these insurance co’s…and seeing all the service I got…This is in one case, I really do think I should be paying more for medical care.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if hospitals receive any funding/grants from the government, and under what situation(s)?
April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM #379891CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer]
flu,the other outrage is that person who doesn’t have insurance is billed the full rate with no discount. Does that item cost $200 or $1000?? No wonder that many people cant afford to pay the bill and hospitals raise the retail prices to $1100 next year.[/quote]
Yes, and no. At a hospital, where emregency care needs to be given, whether it could be paid or not, I would suspect a good portion just claims “economic hardship” and the debt would be forgiven or a good portion thereof. The problems are probably circular. The fact that hospitals cannot deny service to people who cannot pay for the bills (even folks who are not legally here) is another issue.
I’m not saying hospital service should be denied to folks that can’t pay…….It just seems like this healthcare system is the next thing to implode…People who can afford to pay, don’t need to pay for more because they have insurance. Insurance who collect from companies and people don’t pay for enough for the service, and people that can’t get insurance or aren’t here legally, often don’t need to pay anything at all at emergency care. And the remaining folks in none of the above categories pay full price (which I don’t know is what percentage).
I don’t know. Having these insurance co’s…and seeing all the service I got…This is in one case, I really do think I should be paying more for medical care.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if hospitals receive any funding/grants from the government, and under what situation(s)?
April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM #380018CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer]
flu,the other outrage is that person who doesn’t have insurance is billed the full rate with no discount. Does that item cost $200 or $1000?? No wonder that many people cant afford to pay the bill and hospitals raise the retail prices to $1100 next year.[/quote]
Yes, and no. At a hospital, where emregency care needs to be given, whether it could be paid or not, I would suspect a good portion just claims “economic hardship” and the debt would be forgiven or a good portion thereof. The problems are probably circular. The fact that hospitals cannot deny service to people who cannot pay for the bills (even folks who are not legally here) is another issue.
I’m not saying hospital service should be denied to folks that can’t pay…….It just seems like this healthcare system is the next thing to implode…People who can afford to pay, don’t need to pay for more because they have insurance. Insurance who collect from companies and people don’t pay for enough for the service, and people that can’t get insurance or aren’t here legally, often don’t need to pay anything at all at emergency care. And the remaining folks in none of the above categories pay full price (which I don’t know is what percentage).
I don’t know. Having these insurance co’s…and seeing all the service I got…This is in one case, I really do think I should be paying more for medical care.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if hospitals receive any funding/grants from the government, and under what situation(s)?
April 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM #379397Arraya
ParticipantJust an FYI: 50% of private hospitals are losing money and 14,000 people lose health care a day.
http://healthcareers.about.com/b/2009/03/03/50-of-us-hospitals-losing-money.htm
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April 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM #379668ParticipantJust an FYI: 50% of private hospitals are losing money and 14,000 people lose health care a day.
http://healthcareers.about.com/b/2009/03/03/50-of-us-hospitals-losing-money.htm
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April 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM #379851ParticipantJust an FYI: 50% of private hospitals are losing money and 14,000 people lose health care a day.
http://healthcareers.about.com/b/2009/03/03/50-of-us-hospitals-losing-money.htm
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April 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM #379896ParticipantJust an FYI: 50% of private hospitals are losing money and 14,000 people lose health care a day.
http://healthcareers.about.com/b/2009/03/03/50-of-us-hospitals-losing-money.htm
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April 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM #380023ParticipantJust an FYI: 50% of private hospitals are losing money and 14,000 people lose health care a day.
http://healthcareers.about.com/b/2009/03/03/50-of-us-hospitals-losing-money.htm
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April 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM #379422paramount
ParticipantExcellent thread, and patientrenter thank you for your insight.
I think Real Estate is a trivial issue compared to Healthcare.
On one hand, I don’t think any human should be denied life saving healthcare just because they can’t pay.
On the other hand, there are only so many resources to go around, so we do need limitations.
I have to believe Healthcare costs are inflated though because of those who access services, but do not or cannot pay.
Based on my experience with Aetna, Cigna (one of the worst IMO) and Kaiser – I would say Kaiser has a very good model (which includes prevention).
April 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM #379693ParticipantExcellent thread, and patientrenter thank you for your insight.
I think Real Estate is a trivial issue compared to Healthcare.
On one hand, I don’t think any human should be denied life saving healthcare just because they can’t pay.
On the other hand, there are only so many resources to go around, so we do need limitations.
I have to believe Healthcare costs are inflated though because of those who access services, but do not or cannot pay.
Based on my experience with Aetna, Cigna (one of the worst IMO) and Kaiser – I would say Kaiser has a very good model (which includes prevention).
April 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM #379875ParticipantExcellent thread, and patientrenter thank you for your insight.
I think Real Estate is a trivial issue compared to Healthcare.
On one hand, I don’t think any human should be denied life saving healthcare just because they can’t pay.
On the other hand, there are only so many resources to go around, so we do need limitations.
I have to believe Healthcare costs are inflated though because of those who access services, but do not or cannot pay.
Based on my experience with Aetna, Cigna (one of the worst IMO) and Kaiser – I would say Kaiser has a very good model (which includes prevention).
April 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM #379921ParticipantExcellent thread, and patientrenter thank you for your insight.
I think Real Estate is a trivial issue compared to Healthcare.
On one hand, I don’t think any human should be denied life saving healthcare just because they can’t pay.
On the other hand, there are only so many resources to go around, so we do need limitations.
I have to believe Healthcare costs are inflated though because of those who access services, but do not or cannot pay.
Based on my experience with Aetna, Cigna (one of the worst IMO) and Kaiser – I would say Kaiser has a very good model (which includes prevention).
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