OT – High Gas Prices to Kill the Exurbs?

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Interesting article in the new yorker this week on the beacons paradox–basically, more efficient energy use tends to increase energy usage. The prius will basically speed up peak oil if the paradox is true… Academics are still quibbling

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Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:

*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.

*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.

*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%

I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.

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Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:

*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.

*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.

*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%

I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.

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Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:

*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.

*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.

*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%

I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.

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Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:

*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.

*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.

*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%

I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.

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Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:

*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.

*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.

*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%

I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.

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[quote=paramount]Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
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Whoah and I was just kidding earlier! I guess people up that way are already at the 100% corn chip/string cheese/generic cola Costco diet. Can’t give up the cable TV, can’t give up driving 36K miles per year, gave up the gym membership 40lbs ago — something else has GOTTA give and as turns out it’s the neighbor’s gas tank.

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[quote=paramount]Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
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Whoah and I was just kidding earlier! I guess people up that way are already at the 100% corn chip/string cheese/generic cola Costco diet. Can’t give up the cable TV, can’t give up driving 36K miles per year, gave up the gym membership 40lbs ago — something else has GOTTA give and as turns out it’s the neighbor’s gas tank.

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[quote=paramount]Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
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Whoah and I was just kidding earlier! I guess people up that way are already at the 100% corn chip/string cheese/generic cola Costco diet. Can’t give up the cable TV, can’t give up driving 36K miles per year, gave up the gym membership 40lbs ago — something else has GOTTA give and as turns out it’s the neighbor’s gas tank.

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[quote=paramount]Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
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Whoah and I was just kidding earlier! I guess people up that way are already at the 100% corn chip/string cheese/generic cola Costco diet. Can’t give up the cable TV, can’t give up driving 36K miles per year, gave up the gym membership 40lbs ago — something else has GOTTA give and as turns out it’s the neighbor’s gas tank.

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[quote=paramount]Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
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Whoah and I was just kidding earlier! I guess people up that way are already at the 100% corn chip/string cheese/generic cola Costco diet. Can’t give up the cable TV, can’t give up driving 36K miles per year, gave up the gym membership 40lbs ago — something else has GOTTA give and as turns out it’s the neighbor’s gas tank.

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The Russians think peak oil is the funniest story to come down the pike since the one about the dead dinosaurs. They are pumping this stuff from deep within the earth as fast as they can stick pipes down there. If it were dead plants and dinosaurs we would have run out a long time ago. Deepwater Horizon was drilling 10K meters down! That’s like an inverted Mt. Everest. Ain’t no dead dinos down that way, and certainly not enough to make oil at 10K PSI or whatever insane pressure that thing tapped into.

Peak oil/global warming are just stories they tell people to get them to accept austerity which is the true goal. More for the few at the top, less for everyone else. When we all believe that we have to stop eating/driving/living/reproducing it frees them up to zoom around on their megayachts and whatnot. Ain’t no TSA gropedowns or x-ray treatments for the private flight crowd he he he…

One thing that IS true is that the easy oil is gonna be gone soon. The next big trend is gonna be from super-deep wells. Unfortunately they make big booms and messes when things go wrong but that’s the price we’re gonna have to pay…

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The Russians think peak oil is the funniest story to come down the pike since the one about the dead dinosaurs. They are pumping this stuff from deep within the earth as fast as they can stick pipes down there. If it were dead plants and dinosaurs we would have run out a long time ago. Deepwater Horizon was drilling 10K meters down! That’s like an inverted Mt. Everest. Ain’t no dead dinos down that way, and certainly not enough to make oil at 10K PSI or whatever insane pressure that thing tapped into.

Peak oil/global warming are just stories they tell people to get them to accept austerity which is the true goal. More for the few at the top, less for everyone else. When we all believe that we have to stop eating/driving/living/reproducing it frees them up to zoom around on their megayachts and whatnot. Ain’t no TSA gropedowns or x-ray treatments for the private flight crowd he he he…

One thing that IS true is that the easy oil is gonna be gone soon. The next big trend is gonna be from super-deep wells. Unfortunately they make big booms and messes when things go wrong but that’s the price we’re gonna have to pay…

[blahblahblah]

The Russians think peak oil is the funniest story to come down the pike since the one about the dead dinosaurs. They are pumping this stuff from deep within the earth as fast as they can stick pipes down there. If it were dead plants and dinosaurs we would have run out a long time ago. Deepwater Horizon was drilling 10K meters down! That’s like an inverted Mt. Everest. Ain’t no dead dinos down that way, and certainly not enough to make oil at 10K PSI or whatever insane pressure that thing tapped into.

Peak oil/global warming are just stories they tell people to get them to accept austerity which is the true goal. More for the few at the top, less for everyone else. When we all believe that we have to stop eating/driving/living/reproducing it frees them up to zoom around on their megayachts and whatnot. Ain’t no TSA gropedowns or x-ray treatments for the private flight crowd he he he…

One thing that IS true is that the easy oil is gonna be gone soon. The next big trend is gonna be from super-deep wells. Unfortunately they make big booms and messes when things go wrong but that’s the price we’re gonna have to pay…

[blahblahblah]

The Russians think peak oil is the funniest story to come down the pike since the one about the dead dinosaurs. They are pumping this stuff from deep within the earth as fast as they can stick pipes down there. If it were dead plants and dinosaurs we would have run out a long time ago. Deepwater Horizon was drilling 10K meters down! That’s like an inverted Mt. Everest. Ain’t no dead dinos down that way, and certainly not enough to make oil at 10K PSI or whatever insane pressure that thing tapped into.

Peak oil/global warming are just stories they tell people to get them to accept austerity which is the true goal. More for the few at the top, less for everyone else. When we all believe that we have to stop eating/driving/living/reproducing it frees them up to zoom around on their megayachts and whatnot. Ain’t no TSA gropedowns or x-ray treatments for the private flight crowd he he he…

One thing that IS true is that the easy oil is gonna be gone soon. The next big trend is gonna be from super-deep wells. Unfortunately they make big booms and messes when things go wrong but that’s the price we’re gonna have to pay…

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