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February 20, 2014 at 9:35 AM #20972February 20, 2014 at 11:05 AM #771106JazzmanParticipant
Watch “Forks over Knives” on Netflix by Dr Esselstyn. This was Bill Clinton’s diet, or rather life style change. Called extreme by some, but not when compared to heart bypass surgery.
February 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM #771107The-ShovelerParticipantlettuce and cheerios.
I figure there is some connection with lettuce and oats growers.February 20, 2014 at 12:29 PM #771109SD TransplantParticipantx 100
[quote=Jazzman]Watch “Forks over Knives” on Netflix by Dr Esselstyn. This was Bill Clinton’s diet, or rather life style change. Called extreme by some, but not when compared to heart bypass surgery.[/quote]
February 20, 2014 at 1:43 PM #771114jeff303ParticipantThe link between a high total cholesterol levels and better health is already dubious and looking moreso by the month.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/1/52.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20470020
Also, “cholesterol” levels as they’re quoted are not actually cholesterol, but rather lipoproteins (which carry cholesterol through the bloodstream). Even the “bad” type of lipoprotein (LDL) has different subtypes with very different characteristics (fluffy vs dense), and blood tests do not differentiate between them.
Of course, it’s completely up to you, but I personally wouldn’t be too worried if your triglycerides are low (which is looking more and more to be a better predictor of cardiovascular problems than cholesterol).
February 20, 2014 at 1:58 PM #771115kev374Participantdid you get my report by any chance? LOL! My cholesterol is 239 as well and I just tested about 10 days ago!! It has creeped up from 199 a year and 2 months ago… in addition my AST and ALT at 39 and 44 respectively have gone up a bit as well as I have been drinking quite a bit (3-4 beers a day 🙁
My triglycerides are 139 which are borderline I believe. I have a co-worker whose triglycerides were 375..holy cow!!
but I need to stop regular drinking, I’ve been doing it for about 6-7 yrs now but I think it’s time to stop. But I am finding quitting to be incredibly difficult…any pointers?
As for cholesterol levels, I believe if you have high pattern A cholesterol then it’s fine… smaller pattern B is the cause for arteriosclerosis and heart disease! One needs a VAP test to determine particle type which I intend to do next time I get tested.
February 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM #771118SK in CVParticipantThere is a link between higher serum cholesterol levels and dietary supplements that are heavily promoted for weight lifters.
February 20, 2014 at 3:40 PM #771120scaredyclassicParticipantEverything is more complex than it seems.
Still to be on the safe side I shall eliminate pizza, red meat, ice cream and candies. See what happens.
I ate many pizzas.
February 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM #771121jeff303Participant[quote=jeff303]The link between a high total cholesterol levels and better health is already dubious and looking moreso by the month.
[/quote]My edit time expired, but this should have said low total cholesterol. Duh…
February 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM #771122scaredyclassicParticipantEverything is more complex than it seems.
Still to be on the safe side I shall eliminate pizza, red meat, ice cream and candies. See what happens.
I ate many pizzas.
The damage is done.
This vow subject to temporary suspension if the food looks amazing.
February 20, 2014 at 5:22 PM #771123NotCrankyParticipantIt’s the fish oil.
February 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM #771129scaredyclassicParticipantMy family had pizza and I had salad … they asked if I was trying for a medal in self control.
February 20, 2014 at 7:39 PM #771130moneymakerParticipant11/26/2013 141/90 58 158
09/11/2013 131/75 50 119
01/07/2010 137/75 61 149
11/20/2008 133/66 51 151
09/11/2008 137/87 44 148
06/26/2008 130/71 57
01/31/2008 123/66 66 163
11/01/2007 117/66 53 141
08/02/2007 133/75 52 130
The last column is cholesterol. Have maintained the same weight and fitness levels so I think cholesterol is like blood pressure, very dubious I think. I did recently happen upon an interesting site http://www.directlabs.com
I had Costco pizza (5 meat) for lunch and pulled pork w/garlic potatos for dinner but I did do some treadmill today.February 20, 2014 at 7:51 PM #771131CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]My family had pizza and I had salad … they asked if I was trying for a medal in self control.[/quote]
Get plenty of exercise.
Eat lots of fish.
Eat oatmeal in the morning everyday.February 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM #771132scaredyclassicParticipantI do have low blood pressure 112/72. I feel like I should have high blood pressure. I get uptight. Nervous. But I dont. So in spite of the potential futility of it, I will eat my oatmeal and flax. Some herring from Costco and some salad. And the occasional protein shake at the gym.
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