OT: Have you ever changed your mind?

[scaredyclassic]

” a liberal is just a conservative who hasnt been mugged yet.”

not sure who said that.

[scaredyclassic]

what about non-political mind changes?

I know i changed my mind about acceptable careers. I used to think lawyers were evil and I would never be a lawyer. Then I came to beleive lawyers were good and became one. Or maybe I became one and determiend they were good. i cannot remember the order. In either case, I considered new facts.

But mthe original article deals mainly with engrained political issues I think…

And when presented with contrary facts, it actually makes the person beleive the original factually wrong position even more.

There seems to be no hope for rational discussion! That’s why it’s a good thing we have attorneys.

I don’t think I’ve changed my mind so much as lost interets in the whole political demo-repub thing. it just faded out for me way early in life, decades ago; I had a friend in the late 80’s who was selling t-shirts that said “Bush-Dukakis” back in i think 88; had them put togetehr arm in arm pre-photoshop.? He was ahead of his time ina way. wish i had one of those shirts. It’s all one big dumb thing. I’m registered green for no particular reason other than it’s not dems or pubs.

i think for brian, the underlying similarity that doesn’t change is, dem or pub, the main thing is to be irritating! 😉 …i can relate to that, personally.

[scaredyclassic]

what about non-political mind changes?

I know i changed my mind about acceptable careers. I used to think lawyers were evil and I would never be a lawyer. Then I came to beleive lawyers were good and became one. Or maybe I became one and determiend they were good. i cannot remember the order. In either case, I considered new facts.

But mthe original article deals mainly with engrained political issues I think…

And when presented with contrary facts, it actually makes the person beleive the original factually wrong position even more.

There seems to be no hope for rational discussion! That’s why it’s a good thing we have attorneys.

I don’t think I’ve changed my mind so much as lost interets in the whole political demo-repub thing. it just faded out for me way early in life, decades ago; I had a friend in the late 80’s who was selling t-shirts that said “Bush-Dukakis” back in i think 88; had them put togetehr arm in arm pre-photoshop.? He was ahead of his time ina way. wish i had one of those shirts. It’s all one big dumb thing. I’m registered green for no particular reason other than it’s not dems or pubs.

i think for brian, the underlying similarity that doesn’t change is, dem or pub, the main thing is to be irritating! 😉 …i can relate to that, personally.

[scaredyclassic]

what about non-political mind changes?

I know i changed my mind about acceptable careers. I used to think lawyers were evil and I would never be a lawyer. Then I came to beleive lawyers were good and became one. Or maybe I became one and determiend they were good. i cannot remember the order. In either case, I considered new facts.

But mthe original article deals mainly with engrained political issues I think…

And when presented with contrary facts, it actually makes the person beleive the original factually wrong position even more.

There seems to be no hope for rational discussion! That’s why it’s a good thing we have attorneys.

I don’t think I’ve changed my mind so much as lost interets in the whole political demo-repub thing. it just faded out for me way early in life, decades ago; I had a friend in the late 80’s who was selling t-shirts that said “Bush-Dukakis” back in i think 88; had them put togetehr arm in arm pre-photoshop.? He was ahead of his time ina way. wish i had one of those shirts. It’s all one big dumb thing. I’m registered green for no particular reason other than it’s not dems or pubs.

i think for brian, the underlying similarity that doesn’t change is, dem or pub, the main thing is to be irritating! 😉 …i can relate to that, personally.

[scaredyclassic]

what about non-political mind changes?

I know i changed my mind about acceptable careers. I used to think lawyers were evil and I would never be a lawyer. Then I came to beleive lawyers were good and became one. Or maybe I became one and determiend they were good. i cannot remember the order. In either case, I considered new facts.

But mthe original article deals mainly with engrained political issues I think…

And when presented with contrary facts, it actually makes the person beleive the original factually wrong position even more.

There seems to be no hope for rational discussion! That’s why it’s a good thing we have attorneys.

I don’t think I’ve changed my mind so much as lost interets in the whole political demo-repub thing. it just faded out for me way early in life, decades ago; I had a friend in the late 80’s who was selling t-shirts that said “Bush-Dukakis” back in i think 88; had them put togetehr arm in arm pre-photoshop.? He was ahead of his time ina way. wish i had one of those shirts. It’s all one big dumb thing. I’m registered green for no particular reason other than it’s not dems or pubs.

i think for brian, the underlying similarity that doesn’t change is, dem or pub, the main thing is to be irritating! 😉 …i can relate to that, personally.

[scaredyclassic]

what about non-political mind changes?

I know i changed my mind about acceptable careers. I used to think lawyers were evil and I would never be a lawyer. Then I came to beleive lawyers were good and became one. Or maybe I became one and determiend they were good. i cannot remember the order. In either case, I considered new facts.

But mthe original article deals mainly with engrained political issues I think…

And when presented with contrary facts, it actually makes the person beleive the original factually wrong position even more.

There seems to be no hope for rational discussion! That’s why it’s a good thing we have attorneys.

I don’t think I’ve changed my mind so much as lost interets in the whole political demo-repub thing. it just faded out for me way early in life, decades ago; I had a friend in the late 80’s who was selling t-shirts that said “Bush-Dukakis” back in i think 88; had them put togetehr arm in arm pre-photoshop.? He was ahead of his time ina way. wish i had one of those shirts. It’s all one big dumb thing. I’m registered green for no particular reason other than it’s not dems or pubs.

i think for brian, the underlying similarity that doesn’t change is, dem or pub, the main thing is to be irritating! 😉 …i can relate to that, personally.

[davelj]

Another great quote on this topic, I believe from JK Galbraith:

“When confronted with the options of changing one’s opinion and proving there’s no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.”

[davelj]

Another great quote on this topic, I believe from JK Galbraith:

“When confronted with the options of changing one’s opinion and proving there’s no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.”

[davelj]

Another great quote on this topic, I believe from JK Galbraith:

“When confronted with the options of changing one’s opinion and proving there’s no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.”

[davelj]

Another great quote on this topic, I believe from JK Galbraith:

“When confronted with the options of changing one’s opinion and proving there’s no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.”

[davelj]

Another great quote on this topic, I believe from JK Galbraith:

“When confronted with the options of changing one’s opinion and proving there’s no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.”

[briansd1]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea]
Hey Brian:

Have you heard this quote by French Premier Georges
Clemenceau : “Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.”

Just kidding. Peace !!![/quote]

Haha..

Yes, I know.

That’s actually very pragmatic.

When you’re young and poor, you want income equity across social classes. When you get older and more established, you want to preserve your wealth for your family and progeny.

An older person who is established and liberal is intellectually superior, in my opinion. It shows that person is open to big ideas and not as materially self-focused.

When I was young, I was conservative because I though I was more privileged than most and I wanted that to remain so. I was being pragmatic/selfish.

I’m now socially liberal. I’m fiscally conservative but I want government spending to go to poor people who need it most (not defense, or mortgage subsidies, or high government salaries). I want regulations to protect those who need protection most (the poor, uneducated and gullible).

To me it’s not really a Republican/Democrat thing.

I’m a low-case d democrat out of necessity and pragmatism rather than ideology. Let’s face it; the two parties are the only pragmatic choices we have.

I’m a pragmatic liberal.

[briansd1]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea]
Hey Brian:

Have you heard this quote by French Premier Georges
Clemenceau : “Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.”

Just kidding. Peace !!![/quote]

Haha..

Yes, I know.

That’s actually very pragmatic.

When you’re young and poor, you want income equity across social classes. When you get older and more established, you want to preserve your wealth for your family and progeny.

An older person who is established and liberal is intellectually superior, in my opinion. It shows that person is open to big ideas and not as materially self-focused.

When I was young, I was conservative because I though I was more privileged than most and I wanted that to remain so. I was being pragmatic/selfish.

I’m now socially liberal. I’m fiscally conservative but I want government spending to go to poor people who need it most (not defense, or mortgage subsidies, or high government salaries). I want regulations to protect those who need protection most (the poor, uneducated and gullible).

To me it’s not really a Republican/Democrat thing.

I’m a low-case d democrat out of necessity and pragmatism rather than ideology. Let’s face it; the two parties are the only pragmatic choices we have.

I’m a pragmatic liberal.

[briansd1]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea]
Hey Brian:

Have you heard this quote by French Premier Georges
Clemenceau : “Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.”

Just kidding. Peace !!![/quote]

Haha..

Yes, I know.

That’s actually very pragmatic.

When you’re young and poor, you want income equity across social classes. When you get older and more established, you want to preserve your wealth for your family and progeny.

An older person who is established and liberal is intellectually superior, in my opinion. It shows that person is open to big ideas and not as materially self-focused.

When I was young, I was conservative because I though I was more privileged than most and I wanted that to remain so. I was being pragmatic/selfish.

I’m now socially liberal. I’m fiscally conservative but I want government spending to go to poor people who need it most (not defense, or mortgage subsidies, or high government salaries). I want regulations to protect those who need protection most (the poor, uneducated and gullible).

To me it’s not really a Republican/Democrat thing.

I’m a low-case d democrat out of necessity and pragmatism rather than ideology. Let’s face it; the two parties are the only pragmatic choices we have.

I’m a pragmatic liberal.

[briansd1]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea]
Hey Brian:

Have you heard this quote by French Premier Georges
Clemenceau : “Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.”

Just kidding. Peace !!![/quote]

Haha..

Yes, I know.

That’s actually very pragmatic.

When you’re young and poor, you want income equity across social classes. When you get older and more established, you want to preserve your wealth for your family and progeny.

An older person who is established and liberal is intellectually superior, in my opinion. It shows that person is open to big ideas and not as materially self-focused.

When I was young, I was conservative because I though I was more privileged than most and I wanted that to remain so. I was being pragmatic/selfish.

I’m now socially liberal. I’m fiscally conservative but I want government spending to go to poor people who need it most (not defense, or mortgage subsidies, or high government salaries). I want regulations to protect those who need protection most (the poor, uneducated and gullible).

To me it’s not really a Republican/Democrat thing.

I’m a low-case d democrat out of necessity and pragmatism rather than ideology. Let’s face it; the two parties are the only pragmatic choices we have.

I’m a pragmatic liberal.

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