OT: Gay Marriage

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[quote=UCGal]What amazes me is if the roles were reversed – if the Dems had filibustered, blocked an up/down vote, on a defense spending bill they’d be vilified as soft on terror, mean to the troops, not serious about defense.

I don’t see any discussion of this when the shoe’s on the other foot. The GOP voted against cloture on a defense spending bill. They voted against funding the troops. Yet there is no suggestion that they don’t support the troops, national defense, the two wars, etc…

As far as DADT – it sounds like that will be settled in the court long before congress acts. A federal judge ruled a few weeks ago that DADT violates free speech and due process.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/09/10/ask-and-tell-court-strikes-down-military-policy-on-gays/

If the Obama administration chooses NOT to appeal the decision – DADT might very well be dead.

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UCGal I’m responding to your earlier post on the other thread here to keep more on topic.
http://piggington.com/ot_illegal039s_arizona_and_obama?page=2

I agree on both your points.

As was pointed out on the News Hour tonight, the military is young and young people no longer see being gay as an issue.

I went to my young cousin’s wedding. His brother brought his boyfriend to the wedding and nobody had any problem with that.

I’m not that young anymore, but I try to stay young at heart, so I do wholeheartedly support gays in the military.

MARK THOMPSON: Well, no, but you have leaders like Admiral Mullen saying, you know, we hear about these concerns, but, anecdotally, they say, we’re not hearing them. When we go out to bases and posts around the country and around the world, they basically support what we’re trying to do.

Remember, the military is overwhelmingly young. And this is a generational change. And the younger people you talk to, the less of an issue it is.

JIM LEHRER: Is that true with the population generally in the polls, David?

DAVID CHALIAN: Right. You referenced that Washington Post/ABC poll from February.

JIM LEHRER: Yes. Yes.

DAVID CHALIAN: It is one of those issues, Jim, that we have seen a real movement on over time, where an overwhelming majority is supportive of the idea of gays and lesbians serving openly in the military, as you said.

Even a majority of Republicans have come to that point of view. We have really seen the electorate move on this, largely in — to that point about it being a generational issue, as younger voters are coming into the electorate, they have less and less concern about it.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/july-dec10/dontask_09-21.html

[urbanrealtor]

One comment here about homos.
(aka “godless sodomites” as I refer to them at my Hillcrest office).

If serving in a life-or-death situation is compromised because of inadequate unit cohesion that is a very serious issue.

However, if you can’t serve honorably or effectively because the dude covering your back happens to hump dudes when off duty, then I think you probably should not be in the military.

I don’t think everyone should have the same opinions about racial, gender, ethnic, or gen-pref diversity.

However, you should never fear that your unit-mate will be less helpful in protecting you because of some irrelevant bullshit.

There are loads of racists that serve just fine alongside blacks and mexicans. If they cant hack it then they get the fuck out.

I can’t imagine something that would matter less to me than whether my back up likes it up the ass or not.

Correction.
Lady Gaga. I might actually care less if my unit mate likes Lady Gaga.

[urbanrealtor]

One comment here about homos.
(aka “godless sodomites” as I refer to them at my Hillcrest office).

If serving in a life-or-death situation is compromised because of inadequate unit cohesion that is a very serious issue.

However, if you can’t serve honorably or effectively because the dude covering your back happens to hump dudes when off duty, then I think you probably should not be in the military.

I don’t think everyone should have the same opinions about racial, gender, ethnic, or gen-pref diversity.

However, you should never fear that your unit-mate will be less helpful in protecting you because of some irrelevant bullshit.

There are loads of racists that serve just fine alongside blacks and mexicans. If they cant hack it then they get the fuck out.

I can’t imagine something that would matter less to me than whether my back up likes it up the ass or not.

Correction.
Lady Gaga. I might actually care less if my unit mate likes Lady Gaga.

[urbanrealtor]

One comment here about homos.
(aka “godless sodomites” as I refer to them at my Hillcrest office).

If serving in a life-or-death situation is compromised because of inadequate unit cohesion that is a very serious issue.

However, if you can’t serve honorably or effectively because the dude covering your back happens to hump dudes when off duty, then I think you probably should not be in the military.

I don’t think everyone should have the same opinions about racial, gender, ethnic, or gen-pref diversity.

However, you should never fear that your unit-mate will be less helpful in protecting you because of some irrelevant bullshit.

There are loads of racists that serve just fine alongside blacks and mexicans. If they cant hack it then they get the fuck out.

I can’t imagine something that would matter less to me than whether my back up likes it up the ass or not.

Correction.
Lady Gaga. I might actually care less if my unit mate likes Lady Gaga.

[urbanrealtor]

One comment here about homos.
(aka “godless sodomites” as I refer to them at my Hillcrest office).

If serving in a life-or-death situation is compromised because of inadequate unit cohesion that is a very serious issue.

However, if you can’t serve honorably or effectively because the dude covering your back happens to hump dudes when off duty, then I think you probably should not be in the military.

I don’t think everyone should have the same opinions about racial, gender, ethnic, or gen-pref diversity.

However, you should never fear that your unit-mate will be less helpful in protecting you because of some irrelevant bullshit.

There are loads of racists that serve just fine alongside blacks and mexicans. If they cant hack it then they get the fuck out.

I can’t imagine something that would matter less to me than whether my back up likes it up the ass or not.

Correction.
Lady Gaga. I might actually care less if my unit mate likes Lady Gaga.

[urbanrealtor]

One comment here about homos.
(aka “godless sodomites” as I refer to them at my Hillcrest office).

If serving in a life-or-death situation is compromised because of inadequate unit cohesion that is a very serious issue.

However, if you can’t serve honorably or effectively because the dude covering your back happens to hump dudes when off duty, then I think you probably should not be in the military.

I don’t think everyone should have the same opinions about racial, gender, ethnic, or gen-pref diversity.

However, you should never fear that your unit-mate will be less helpful in protecting you because of some irrelevant bullshit.

There are loads of racists that serve just fine alongside blacks and mexicans. If they cant hack it then they get the fuck out.

I can’t imagine something that would matter less to me than whether my back up likes it up the ass or not.

Correction.
Lady Gaga. I might actually care less if my unit mate likes Lady Gaga.

[Wickedheart]

I don’t think most people get the reality of living under don’t ask, don’t tell for homosexuals in the military. Homosexual conduct is still prohibited and cause for a dishonorable discharge. It’s a stupid policy. It’s time for Obama keep his promise and get rid of it.

[Wickedheart]

I don’t think most people get the reality of living under don’t ask, don’t tell for homosexuals in the military. Homosexual conduct is still prohibited and cause for a dishonorable discharge. It’s a stupid policy. It’s time for Obama keep his promise and get rid of it.

[Wickedheart]

I don’t think most people get the reality of living under don’t ask, don’t tell for homosexuals in the military. Homosexual conduct is still prohibited and cause for a dishonorable discharge. It’s a stupid policy. It’s time for Obama keep his promise and get rid of it.

[Wickedheart]

I don’t think most people get the reality of living under don’t ask, don’t tell for homosexuals in the military. Homosexual conduct is still prohibited and cause for a dishonorable discharge. It’s a stupid policy. It’s time for Obama keep his promise and get rid of it.

[Wickedheart]

I don’t think most people get the reality of living under don’t ask, don’t tell for homosexuals in the military. Homosexual conduct is still prohibited and cause for a dishonorable discharge. It’s a stupid policy. It’s time for Obama keep his promise and get rid of it.

[NotCranky]

I agree that job performance is not in question.
The military is different from other work places in that co-workers share cramped sleeping quarters/bathing areas for entire tours of duty, which can be very long . So, in the military people who are prone to sleeping with each other are generally given separate sleeping and bathing facilities.I would assume most women prefer to be kept separate, in these intimate situations, from most if not all male co-workers. Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

[NotCranky]

I agree that job performance is not in question.
The military is different from other work places in that co-workers share cramped sleeping quarters/bathing areas for entire tours of duty, which can be very long . So, in the military people who are prone to sleeping with each other are generally given separate sleeping and bathing facilities.I would assume most women prefer to be kept separate, in these intimate situations, from most if not all male co-workers. Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

[NotCranky]

I agree that job performance is not in question.
The military is different from other work places in that co-workers share cramped sleeping quarters/bathing areas for entire tours of duty, which can be very long . So, in the military people who are prone to sleeping with each other are generally given separate sleeping and bathing facilities.I would assume most women prefer to be kept separate, in these intimate situations, from most if not all male co-workers. Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

[NotCranky]

I agree that job performance is not in question.
The military is different from other work places in that co-workers share cramped sleeping quarters/bathing areas for entire tours of duty, which can be very long . So, in the military people who are prone to sleeping with each other are generally given separate sleeping and bathing facilities.I would assume most women prefer to be kept separate, in these intimate situations, from most if not all male co-workers. Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

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