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May 29, 2010 at 11:56 PM #558171May 30, 2010 at 1:15 AM #557225
scaredyclassic
Participantcriminal charges? so i don’t know if it’s a cementing problem or a drilling problem, but I suspect in spite of all this hotheaded blather that it’s kind of like deciding whether a shooting was a gun thing or an ammo thing.
probably whoever’s making the bucks ought to be responsible. So what about criminal charges? good or bad? will it incentivize execuives to maybe give a rat’s ass about whether or not they destroy the earth? Would it offend your sensibility to throw ten or twenty corp execs in the hoosegow for a few decades? would it not maybe give other oil execs a moment’s pause before they go for it? instead of counting on “endless years ina civil court fend off plaintiffs” maybe the risk benefit analysis might change if the executives added in the speedier criminal trial that might occur a year or two from the date of incident and might result in them losing everything. certainly would change my personal risk/benefit analysis.
personally, i’d like to see gas at 10 bucks a gallon minimum. I have no particular opinion on this incident other than it sure looks like someone f***ed up, whether it’s the drill guy, the cement guy, or whoever…if this is just the cost fo doing business, i think maybe we ought not to be in this business…
May 30, 2010 at 1:15 AM #557327scaredyclassic
Participantcriminal charges? so i don’t know if it’s a cementing problem or a drilling problem, but I suspect in spite of all this hotheaded blather that it’s kind of like deciding whether a shooting was a gun thing or an ammo thing.
probably whoever’s making the bucks ought to be responsible. So what about criminal charges? good or bad? will it incentivize execuives to maybe give a rat’s ass about whether or not they destroy the earth? Would it offend your sensibility to throw ten or twenty corp execs in the hoosegow for a few decades? would it not maybe give other oil execs a moment’s pause before they go for it? instead of counting on “endless years ina civil court fend off plaintiffs” maybe the risk benefit analysis might change if the executives added in the speedier criminal trial that might occur a year or two from the date of incident and might result in them losing everything. certainly would change my personal risk/benefit analysis.
personally, i’d like to see gas at 10 bucks a gallon minimum. I have no particular opinion on this incident other than it sure looks like someone f***ed up, whether it’s the drill guy, the cement guy, or whoever…if this is just the cost fo doing business, i think maybe we ought not to be in this business…
May 30, 2010 at 1:15 AM #557811scaredyclassic
Participantcriminal charges? so i don’t know if it’s a cementing problem or a drilling problem, but I suspect in spite of all this hotheaded blather that it’s kind of like deciding whether a shooting was a gun thing or an ammo thing.
probably whoever’s making the bucks ought to be responsible. So what about criminal charges? good or bad? will it incentivize execuives to maybe give a rat’s ass about whether or not they destroy the earth? Would it offend your sensibility to throw ten or twenty corp execs in the hoosegow for a few decades? would it not maybe give other oil execs a moment’s pause before they go for it? instead of counting on “endless years ina civil court fend off plaintiffs” maybe the risk benefit analysis might change if the executives added in the speedier criminal trial that might occur a year or two from the date of incident and might result in them losing everything. certainly would change my personal risk/benefit analysis.
personally, i’d like to see gas at 10 bucks a gallon minimum. I have no particular opinion on this incident other than it sure looks like someone f***ed up, whether it’s the drill guy, the cement guy, or whoever…if this is just the cost fo doing business, i think maybe we ought not to be in this business…
May 30, 2010 at 1:15 AM #557913scaredyclassic
Participantcriminal charges? so i don’t know if it’s a cementing problem or a drilling problem, but I suspect in spite of all this hotheaded blather that it’s kind of like deciding whether a shooting was a gun thing or an ammo thing.
probably whoever’s making the bucks ought to be responsible. So what about criminal charges? good or bad? will it incentivize execuives to maybe give a rat’s ass about whether or not they destroy the earth? Would it offend your sensibility to throw ten or twenty corp execs in the hoosegow for a few decades? would it not maybe give other oil execs a moment’s pause before they go for it? instead of counting on “endless years ina civil court fend off plaintiffs” maybe the risk benefit analysis might change if the executives added in the speedier criminal trial that might occur a year or two from the date of incident and might result in them losing everything. certainly would change my personal risk/benefit analysis.
personally, i’d like to see gas at 10 bucks a gallon minimum. I have no particular opinion on this incident other than it sure looks like someone f***ed up, whether it’s the drill guy, the cement guy, or whoever…if this is just the cost fo doing business, i think maybe we ought not to be in this business…
May 30, 2010 at 1:15 AM #558190scaredyclassic
Participantcriminal charges? so i don’t know if it’s a cementing problem or a drilling problem, but I suspect in spite of all this hotheaded blather that it’s kind of like deciding whether a shooting was a gun thing or an ammo thing.
probably whoever’s making the bucks ought to be responsible. So what about criminal charges? good or bad? will it incentivize execuives to maybe give a rat’s ass about whether or not they destroy the earth? Would it offend your sensibility to throw ten or twenty corp execs in the hoosegow for a few decades? would it not maybe give other oil execs a moment’s pause before they go for it? instead of counting on “endless years ina civil court fend off plaintiffs” maybe the risk benefit analysis might change if the executives added in the speedier criminal trial that might occur a year or two from the date of incident and might result in them losing everything. certainly would change my personal risk/benefit analysis.
personally, i’d like to see gas at 10 bucks a gallon minimum. I have no particular opinion on this incident other than it sure looks like someone f***ed up, whether it’s the drill guy, the cement guy, or whoever…if this is just the cost fo doing business, i think maybe we ought not to be in this business…
May 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM #557250briansd1
Guest[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberal whining. Fox is certainly fair and balanced.
This is Obama’s Katrina, no way around it.
This is also a failure of government regulation. This administration essentially dropped the ball, all their talk of regulatory reform, shows that they did nothing this past year and 1/2 at the Mines and Mineral Mgmt Agency
The voters will make their assessment
NSD[/quote]
Let me see here… what’s the “liberal whining” about?
Without the liberal whining, as you put it, Obama wouldn’t be on the hot seat. The other side seems to be saying “Accidents happen. Tough luck. Live with it if you want gas.”
I’m glad that you admitted that this was a failure of government regulation. Guess what will result? Stricter regulations and more regulations.
Yes, the voters will make their assessments. Do you think that facing the choices, the voters (of the Gulf Coast and the South especially) will vote for a party which favors regulations or a party that favors deregulating?
Let me ask you here:
Is is Obama’s problem? Or an environmental problem which needs to be solved?May 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM #557351briansd1
Guest[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberal whining. Fox is certainly fair and balanced.
This is Obama’s Katrina, no way around it.
This is also a failure of government regulation. This administration essentially dropped the ball, all their talk of regulatory reform, shows that they did nothing this past year and 1/2 at the Mines and Mineral Mgmt Agency
The voters will make their assessment
NSD[/quote]
Let me see here… what’s the “liberal whining” about?
Without the liberal whining, as you put it, Obama wouldn’t be on the hot seat. The other side seems to be saying “Accidents happen. Tough luck. Live with it if you want gas.”
I’m glad that you admitted that this was a failure of government regulation. Guess what will result? Stricter regulations and more regulations.
Yes, the voters will make their assessments. Do you think that facing the choices, the voters (of the Gulf Coast and the South especially) will vote for a party which favors regulations or a party that favors deregulating?
Let me ask you here:
Is is Obama’s problem? Or an environmental problem which needs to be solved?May 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM #557836briansd1
Guest[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberal whining. Fox is certainly fair and balanced.
This is Obama’s Katrina, no way around it.
This is also a failure of government regulation. This administration essentially dropped the ball, all their talk of regulatory reform, shows that they did nothing this past year and 1/2 at the Mines and Mineral Mgmt Agency
The voters will make their assessment
NSD[/quote]
Let me see here… what’s the “liberal whining” about?
Without the liberal whining, as you put it, Obama wouldn’t be on the hot seat. The other side seems to be saying “Accidents happen. Tough luck. Live with it if you want gas.”
I’m glad that you admitted that this was a failure of government regulation. Guess what will result? Stricter regulations and more regulations.
Yes, the voters will make their assessments. Do you think that facing the choices, the voters (of the Gulf Coast and the South especially) will vote for a party which favors regulations or a party that favors deregulating?
Let me ask you here:
Is is Obama’s problem? Or an environmental problem which needs to be solved?May 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM #557936briansd1
Guest[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberal whining. Fox is certainly fair and balanced.
This is Obama’s Katrina, no way around it.
This is also a failure of government regulation. This administration essentially dropped the ball, all their talk of regulatory reform, shows that they did nothing this past year and 1/2 at the Mines and Mineral Mgmt Agency
The voters will make their assessment
NSD[/quote]
Let me see here… what’s the “liberal whining” about?
Without the liberal whining, as you put it, Obama wouldn’t be on the hot seat. The other side seems to be saying “Accidents happen. Tough luck. Live with it if you want gas.”
I’m glad that you admitted that this was a failure of government regulation. Guess what will result? Stricter regulations and more regulations.
Yes, the voters will make their assessments. Do you think that facing the choices, the voters (of the Gulf Coast and the South especially) will vote for a party which favors regulations or a party that favors deregulating?
Let me ask you here:
Is is Obama’s problem? Or an environmental problem which needs to be solved?May 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM #558215briansd1
Guest[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberal whining. Fox is certainly fair and balanced.
This is Obama’s Katrina, no way around it.
This is also a failure of government regulation. This administration essentially dropped the ball, all their talk of regulatory reform, shows that they did nothing this past year and 1/2 at the Mines and Mineral Mgmt Agency
The voters will make their assessment
NSD[/quote]
Let me see here… what’s the “liberal whining” about?
Without the liberal whining, as you put it, Obama wouldn’t be on the hot seat. The other side seems to be saying “Accidents happen. Tough luck. Live with it if you want gas.”
I’m glad that you admitted that this was a failure of government regulation. Guess what will result? Stricter regulations and more regulations.
Yes, the voters will make their assessments. Do you think that facing the choices, the voters (of the Gulf Coast and the South especially) will vote for a party which favors regulations or a party that favors deregulating?
Let me ask you here:
Is is Obama’s problem? Or an environmental problem which needs to be solved?May 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM #557265scaredyclassic
ParticipantMaybe theore appropriate comparison to fault is an accidental pregnancy with a broken condom. Clearly there is no fault on the part of the guy having sex right it’s all the fault of the condom. Course if the guy hadn’t been drilling in the first place….forget tougher regulations….criminal cororate strict liability where if there’s a spill like this, Corp is prosecuted and all assets are seized criminally. Wouldn’t this give the execs motivation to take proper risk analysis?
May 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM #557366scaredyclassic
ParticipantMaybe theore appropriate comparison to fault is an accidental pregnancy with a broken condom. Clearly there is no fault on the part of the guy having sex right it’s all the fault of the condom. Course if the guy hadn’t been drilling in the first place….forget tougher regulations….criminal cororate strict liability where if there’s a spill like this, Corp is prosecuted and all assets are seized criminally. Wouldn’t this give the execs motivation to take proper risk analysis?
May 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM #557851scaredyclassic
ParticipantMaybe theore appropriate comparison to fault is an accidental pregnancy with a broken condom. Clearly there is no fault on the part of the guy having sex right it’s all the fault of the condom. Course if the guy hadn’t been drilling in the first place….forget tougher regulations….criminal cororate strict liability where if there’s a spill like this, Corp is prosecuted and all assets are seized criminally. Wouldn’t this give the execs motivation to take proper risk analysis?
May 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM #557951scaredyclassic
ParticipantMaybe theore appropriate comparison to fault is an accidental pregnancy with a broken condom. Clearly there is no fault on the part of the guy having sex right it’s all the fault of the condom. Course if the guy hadn’t been drilling in the first place….forget tougher regulations….criminal cororate strict liability where if there’s a spill like this, Corp is prosecuted and all assets are seized criminally. Wouldn’t this give the execs motivation to take proper risk analysis?
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