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May 27, 2010 at 3:31 PM #556176May 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM #555233UCGalParticipant
The WSJ has a good summary of what happened based on congressional testimony, documents from BP, Transocean, Halliburton, MMS, etc..
While BP is not the only party to blame – some responsibility has to go to them. It wasn’t just a failure of the cement. Other things had gone wrong, and bad decisions were made. Steps were skipped or cut short due to deadlines.
May 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM #555337UCGalParticipantThe WSJ has a good summary of what happened based on congressional testimony, documents from BP, Transocean, Halliburton, MMS, etc..
While BP is not the only party to blame – some responsibility has to go to them. It wasn’t just a failure of the cement. Other things had gone wrong, and bad decisions were made. Steps were skipped or cut short due to deadlines.
May 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM #555823UCGalParticipantThe WSJ has a good summary of what happened based on congressional testimony, documents from BP, Transocean, Halliburton, MMS, etc..
While BP is not the only party to blame – some responsibility has to go to them. It wasn’t just a failure of the cement. Other things had gone wrong, and bad decisions were made. Steps were skipped or cut short due to deadlines.
May 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM #555919UCGalParticipantThe WSJ has a good summary of what happened based on congressional testimony, documents from BP, Transocean, Halliburton, MMS, etc..
While BP is not the only party to blame – some responsibility has to go to them. It wasn’t just a failure of the cement. Other things had gone wrong, and bad decisions were made. Steps were skipped or cut short due to deadlines.
May 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM #556196UCGalParticipantThe WSJ has a good summary of what happened based on congressional testimony, documents from BP, Transocean, Halliburton, MMS, etc..
While BP is not the only party to blame – some responsibility has to go to them. It wasn’t just a failure of the cement. Other things had gone wrong, and bad decisions were made. Steps were skipped or cut short due to deadlines.
May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM #555323Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]waiting for bottom, I didn’t say stop extracting.
Do you really want to open up sensitive natural areas with the technology so far showcased?
How about a new oil platform off the coast of Santa Barbara? BP might like to buy the lease.
BTW, a moratorium on new drilling in sensitive areas doesn’t mean that anyone is losing. The oil will still be there for extraction in the future when prices increase and technology is better proven.[/quote]
Brian,
Would you please identify which areas you would rank as sensitive, and which areas on of the Earth of insensitive to a massive oil spill.
Your posts are nothing more than double-speak.
May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM #555425Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]waiting for bottom, I didn’t say stop extracting.
Do you really want to open up sensitive natural areas with the technology so far showcased?
How about a new oil platform off the coast of Santa Barbara? BP might like to buy the lease.
BTW, a moratorium on new drilling in sensitive areas doesn’t mean that anyone is losing. The oil will still be there for extraction in the future when prices increase and technology is better proven.[/quote]
Brian,
Would you please identify which areas you would rank as sensitive, and which areas on of the Earth of insensitive to a massive oil spill.
Your posts are nothing more than double-speak.
May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM #555911Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]waiting for bottom, I didn’t say stop extracting.
Do you really want to open up sensitive natural areas with the technology so far showcased?
How about a new oil platform off the coast of Santa Barbara? BP might like to buy the lease.
BTW, a moratorium on new drilling in sensitive areas doesn’t mean that anyone is losing. The oil will still be there for extraction in the future when prices increase and technology is better proven.[/quote]
Brian,
Would you please identify which areas you would rank as sensitive, and which areas on of the Earth of insensitive to a massive oil spill.
Your posts are nothing more than double-speak.
May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM #556007Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]waiting for bottom, I didn’t say stop extracting.
Do you really want to open up sensitive natural areas with the technology so far showcased?
How about a new oil platform off the coast of Santa Barbara? BP might like to buy the lease.
BTW, a moratorium on new drilling in sensitive areas doesn’t mean that anyone is losing. The oil will still be there for extraction in the future when prices increase and technology is better proven.[/quote]
Brian,
Would you please identify which areas you would rank as sensitive, and which areas on of the Earth of insensitive to a massive oil spill.
Your posts are nothing more than double-speak.
May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM #556285Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]waiting for bottom, I didn’t say stop extracting.
Do you really want to open up sensitive natural areas with the technology so far showcased?
How about a new oil platform off the coast of Santa Barbara? BP might like to buy the lease.
BTW, a moratorium on new drilling in sensitive areas doesn’t mean that anyone is losing. The oil will still be there for extraction in the future when prices increase and technology is better proven.[/quote]
Brian,
Would you please identify which areas you would rank as sensitive, and which areas on of the Earth of insensitive to a massive oil spill.
Your posts are nothing more than double-speak.
May 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM #555338Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Allan, since you are so much for technically assigning blame where blame is due, Bush/Cheney relaxing the rules contributed to the lack of safety and THIS Gulf of Mexico environmental disaster.
[/quote]There is no way I am letting this pass on this board as fact. Maybe you should open up the NYT and look to see that that Obama led Interior Department approved the rig WITHOUT the required permits.
Brian, I would like you to either retract your previous statement or figure out a way to counter mine.
U.S. Said to Allow Drilling Without Needed Permits
The federal Minerals Management Service gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf of Mexico without first getting required permits from another agency that assesses threats to endangered species — and despite strong warnings from that agency about the impact the drilling was likely to have on the gulf.
Those scientists said they were also regularly pressured by agency officials to change the findings of their internal studies if they predicted that an accident was likely to occur or if wildlife might be harmed.
Aside from allowing BP and other companies to drill in the gulf without getting the required permits from NOAA, the minerals agency has also given BP and other drilling companies in the gulf blanket exemptions from having to provide environmental impact statements.
May 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM #555440Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Allan, since you are so much for technically assigning blame where blame is due, Bush/Cheney relaxing the rules contributed to the lack of safety and THIS Gulf of Mexico environmental disaster.
[/quote]There is no way I am letting this pass on this board as fact. Maybe you should open up the NYT and look to see that that Obama led Interior Department approved the rig WITHOUT the required permits.
Brian, I would like you to either retract your previous statement or figure out a way to counter mine.
U.S. Said to Allow Drilling Without Needed Permits
The federal Minerals Management Service gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf of Mexico without first getting required permits from another agency that assesses threats to endangered species — and despite strong warnings from that agency about the impact the drilling was likely to have on the gulf.
Those scientists said they were also regularly pressured by agency officials to change the findings of their internal studies if they predicted that an accident was likely to occur or if wildlife might be harmed.
Aside from allowing BP and other companies to drill in the gulf without getting the required permits from NOAA, the minerals agency has also given BP and other drilling companies in the gulf blanket exemptions from having to provide environmental impact statements.
May 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM #555925Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Allan, since you are so much for technically assigning blame where blame is due, Bush/Cheney relaxing the rules contributed to the lack of safety and THIS Gulf of Mexico environmental disaster.
[/quote]There is no way I am letting this pass on this board as fact. Maybe you should open up the NYT and look to see that that Obama led Interior Department approved the rig WITHOUT the required permits.
Brian, I would like you to either retract your previous statement or figure out a way to counter mine.
U.S. Said to Allow Drilling Without Needed Permits
The federal Minerals Management Service gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf of Mexico without first getting required permits from another agency that assesses threats to endangered species — and despite strong warnings from that agency about the impact the drilling was likely to have on the gulf.
Those scientists said they were also regularly pressured by agency officials to change the findings of their internal studies if they predicted that an accident was likely to occur or if wildlife might be harmed.
Aside from allowing BP and other companies to drill in the gulf without getting the required permits from NOAA, the minerals agency has also given BP and other drilling companies in the gulf blanket exemptions from having to provide environmental impact statements.
May 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM #556022Jim JonesParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Allan, since you are so much for technically assigning blame where blame is due, Bush/Cheney relaxing the rules contributed to the lack of safety and THIS Gulf of Mexico environmental disaster.
[/quote]There is no way I am letting this pass on this board as fact. Maybe you should open up the NYT and look to see that that Obama led Interior Department approved the rig WITHOUT the required permits.
Brian, I would like you to either retract your previous statement or figure out a way to counter mine.
U.S. Said to Allow Drilling Without Needed Permits
The federal Minerals Management Service gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf of Mexico without first getting required permits from another agency that assesses threats to endangered species — and despite strong warnings from that agency about the impact the drilling was likely to have on the gulf.
Those scientists said they were also regularly pressured by agency officials to change the findings of their internal studies if they predicted that an accident was likely to occur or if wildlife might be harmed.
Aside from allowing BP and other companies to drill in the gulf without getting the required permits from NOAA, the minerals agency has also given BP and other drilling companies in the gulf blanket exemptions from having to provide environmental impact statements.
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