OT: father is visiting and hospitalized by stroke

[Coronita]

[quote=carlsbadworker]For those recommend travel insurance, have you actually used it before here in US? I am asking because it seems most travel insurance excludes pre-existing conditions or has a very low cap for pre-existing conditions. Wouldn’t that make it pratically useless?[/quote]

Pre-existing conditions are excluded. But you also need to think about those things that aren’t pre-existing too. Yes, it can be expensive. But any trip to the hospital, will be much more.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]btw, you know who passed Taiwan’s single payer system? The KMT, one of the most right-leaning, pro-business political parties in the world. They are so far to the right on the political spectrum they’ll make the Republicans blush.[/quote]

I have to agree with ocrenter here.

The KMT is very focused on economic growth in a “to get rich is glorious” sort of way. Interestingly enough, the communist party in China is that way also.

ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]btw, you know who passed Taiwan’s single payer system? The KMT, one of the most right-leaning, pro-business political parties in the world. They are so far to the right on the political spectrum they’ll make the Republicans blush.[/quote]

I have to agree with ocrenter here.

The KMT is very focused on economic growth in a “to get rich is glorious” sort of way. Interestingly enough, the communist party in China is that way also.

ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]btw, you know who passed Taiwan’s single payer system? The KMT, one of the most right-leaning, pro-business political parties in the world. They are so far to the right on the political spectrum they’ll make the Republicans blush.[/quote]

I have to agree with ocrenter here.

The KMT is very focused on economic growth in a “to get rich is glorious” sort of way. Interestingly enough, the communist party in China is that way also.

ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]btw, you know who passed Taiwan’s single payer system? The KMT, one of the most right-leaning, pro-business political parties in the world. They are so far to the right on the political spectrum they’ll make the Republicans blush.[/quote]

I have to agree with ocrenter here.

The KMT is very focused on economic growth in a “to get rich is glorious” sort of way. Interestingly enough, the communist party in China is that way also.

ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]btw, you know who passed Taiwan’s single payer system? The KMT, one of the most right-leaning, pro-business political parties in the world. They are so far to the right on the political spectrum they’ll make the Republicans blush.[/quote]

I have to agree with ocrenter here.

The KMT is very focused on economic growth in a “to get rich is glorious” sort of way. Interestingly enough, the communist party in China is that way also.

ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.

[ocrenter]

[quote=briansd1]
ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.[/quote]

the physician charges for the ENT surgery was $300. not sure how much they actually bring in yearly.

the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.

[ocrenter]

[quote=briansd1]
ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.[/quote]

the physician charges for the ENT surgery was $300. not sure how much they actually bring in yearly.

the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.

[ocrenter]

[quote=briansd1]
ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.[/quote]

the physician charges for the ENT surgery was $300. not sure how much they actually bring in yearly.

the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.

[ocrenter]

[quote=briansd1]
ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.[/quote]

the physician charges for the ENT surgery was $300. not sure how much they actually bring in yearly.

the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.

[ocrenter]

[quote=briansd1]
ocrenter, i hear that specialists in TW make a lot of money because they are few so they can charge lots — like oral/facial surgeons especially if they are trained at top US schools. Cash payments and low malpractice insurance/operating costs.

I know one guy who came here for training and went back. I heard the same about Korea.[/quote]

the physician charges for the ENT surgery was $300. not sure how much they actually bring in yearly.

the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.[/quote]

I very much agree with you.

If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.[/quote]

I very much agree with you.

If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.[/quote]

I very much agree with you.

If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
the point here is backing a single payer system really isn’t about right vs left. we really should not be thinking of it as an entitlement program, but rather a program to bring down outragous cost.

think about it, if the hospital charged the OP $5000 for his father’s visit, he/his father would have paid it. instead, they get billed $30k and they’ll probably just walk away from the bill completely.[/quote]

I very much agree with you.

If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.

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