OT – F as in Fat

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=CognitiveDissonance]Looking at obese people in a compartmental fashion, does not go far enough. It’s the same evolutionary developed, neurochemical stimuli that drives people to overeat, that drives people to be wealthy – that is driving the world wide domino defaults. It just manifest in differently throughout society.
[/quote]

You are correct CD. But that’s too philosophical deep.

Yeah, as a society we need to examine our priorities.

But in many ways, as individuals, we must go with the flow, but resist the flow when necessary for our own benefit.

We can’t change the world.[/quote]

Why can’t we change the world?

If we honestly believe that certain food additives or behaviors (of various sorts) are detrimental to our health and society, why should we not try to change them?

[CA renter]

[quote=TemekuT]The yardstick moved because of the proliferation of high carb, cheap fast food, and portion size. Eating out often leads to obesity.

The obesity solution is threefold:

1. clean, pure food prepared at home

2. more fruit and vegetable carbs and less grain carbs.

3. portion control[/quote]

Totally agree with this.

[CA renter]

[quote=TemekuT]The yardstick moved because of the proliferation of high carb, cheap fast food, and portion size. Eating out often leads to obesity.

The obesity solution is threefold:

1. clean, pure food prepared at home

2. more fruit and vegetable carbs and less grain carbs.

3. portion control[/quote]

Totally agree with this.

[CA renter]

[quote=TemekuT]The yardstick moved because of the proliferation of high carb, cheap fast food, and portion size. Eating out often leads to obesity.

The obesity solution is threefold:

1. clean, pure food prepared at home

2. more fruit and vegetable carbs and less grain carbs.

3. portion control[/quote]

Totally agree with this.

[CA renter]

[quote=TemekuT]The yardstick moved because of the proliferation of high carb, cheap fast food, and portion size. Eating out often leads to obesity.

The obesity solution is threefold:

1. clean, pure food prepared at home

2. more fruit and vegetable carbs and less grain carbs.

3. portion control[/quote]

Totally agree with this.

[CA renter]

[quote=TemekuT]The yardstick moved because of the proliferation of high carb, cheap fast food, and portion size. Eating out often leads to obesity.

The obesity solution is threefold:

1. clean, pure food prepared at home

2. more fruit and vegetable carbs and less grain carbs.

3. portion control[/quote]

Totally agree with this.

[moneymaker]

OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.

[moneymaker]

OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.

[moneymaker]

OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.

[moneymaker]

OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.

[moneymaker]

OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter] Why can’t we change the world?

If we honestly believe that certain food additives or behaviors (of various sorts) are detrimental to our health and society, why should we not try to change them?[/quote]

If you read CD’s post you’d see that our backward primitive instincts are causing us, as humans, to be self-destructive.

Banning certain foods won’t help. In a world of abundance where everything is commoditized, we need to evolve psychologically to resist self-destruction.

That would take real leadership to tell people some painful truths. It won’t happen because people get all in a tizzy and offended if you even hint that they are fat. Michelle Obama being labeled as a food Nazi is a prime example.

But failing a change in thinking, banning/taxing harmful foods is a good start. Even that will be very hard. I think that CD would say that’s just kicking the can down the road.

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter] Why can’t we change the world?

If we honestly believe that certain food additives or behaviors (of various sorts) are detrimental to our health and society, why should we not try to change them?[/quote]

If you read CD’s post you’d see that our backward primitive instincts are causing us, as humans, to be self-destructive.

Banning certain foods won’t help. In a world of abundance where everything is commoditized, we need to evolve psychologically to resist self-destruction.

That would take real leadership to tell people some painful truths. It won’t happen because people get all in a tizzy and offended if you even hint that they are fat. Michelle Obama being labeled as a food Nazi is a prime example.

But failing a change in thinking, banning/taxing harmful foods is a good start. Even that will be very hard. I think that CD would say that’s just kicking the can down the road.

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter] Why can’t we change the world?

If we honestly believe that certain food additives or behaviors (of various sorts) are detrimental to our health and society, why should we not try to change them?[/quote]

If you read CD’s post you’d see that our backward primitive instincts are causing us, as humans, to be self-destructive.

Banning certain foods won’t help. In a world of abundance where everything is commoditized, we need to evolve psychologically to resist self-destruction.

That would take real leadership to tell people some painful truths. It won’t happen because people get all in a tizzy and offended if you even hint that they are fat. Michelle Obama being labeled as a food Nazi is a prime example.

But failing a change in thinking, banning/taxing harmful foods is a good start. Even that will be very hard. I think that CD would say that’s just kicking the can down the road.

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter] Why can’t we change the world?

If we honestly believe that certain food additives or behaviors (of various sorts) are detrimental to our health and society, why should we not try to change them?[/quote]

If you read CD’s post you’d see that our backward primitive instincts are causing us, as humans, to be self-destructive.

Banning certain foods won’t help. In a world of abundance where everything is commoditized, we need to evolve psychologically to resist self-destruction.

That would take real leadership to tell people some painful truths. It won’t happen because people get all in a tizzy and offended if you even hint that they are fat. Michelle Obama being labeled as a food Nazi is a prime example.

But failing a change in thinking, banning/taxing harmful foods is a good start. Even that will be very hard. I think that CD would say that’s just kicking the can down the road.

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