OT: Engagement Rings

[briansd1]

[quote=pri_dk]Some trivia:

The diamond engagement ring “tradition” really isn’t that old. And of course if was created by corporate marketing.

If you are over 40 or so, there’s a good chance your grandmother did not get one because she didn’t know she was supposed to want one.

http://www.slate.com/id/2167870/%5B/quote%5D

The engagement ring is certainly a stupid tradition which isn’t.

However, I think that the tradition of a dowry should be preserved and resurrected.

If a woman wants to marry well, she or her family better have a dowry at the ready. 😉

[NotCranky]

Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.

I would be interested in a study to determine, amongst childless swingers, or swingers who are dating single mothers, “who pays more from the time the trist or uncommitted affair is intitiated until it is over, the man or the woman?” Do men and women who practice this modern, liberal lifestyle indefinitely make any economic occurences 100% equal, as it seems they would want to because of the evolutionary demands of that very liberation and equality? I am sure piggington swingers do but what would the results of broad poll determine?
Take Tiger Woods for example, he probably paid everything towards his happy swinging life and the women paid nothing or they paid with money that he gave them. That just really amuses me. He could at least shoot for 40/60 or just do things they could both afford…like go outside and get some fresh air. Did he really have to pay for that sex? How neanderthal can you get.

[NotCranky]

Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.

I would be interested in a study to determine, amongst childless swingers, or swingers who are dating single mothers, “who pays more from the time the trist or uncommitted affair is intitiated until it is over, the man or the woman?” Do men and women who practice this modern, liberal lifestyle indefinitely make any economic occurences 100% equal, as it seems they would want to because of the evolutionary demands of that very liberation and equality? I am sure piggington swingers do but what would the results of broad poll determine?
Take Tiger Woods for example, he probably paid everything towards his happy swinging life and the women paid nothing or they paid with money that he gave them. That just really amuses me. He could at least shoot for 40/60 or just do things they could both afford…like go outside and get some fresh air. Did he really have to pay for that sex? How neanderthal can you get.

[NotCranky]

Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.

I would be interested in a study to determine, amongst childless swingers, or swingers who are dating single mothers, “who pays more from the time the trist or uncommitted affair is intitiated until it is over, the man or the woman?” Do men and women who practice this modern, liberal lifestyle indefinitely make any economic occurences 100% equal, as it seems they would want to because of the evolutionary demands of that very liberation and equality? I am sure piggington swingers do but what would the results of broad poll determine?
Take Tiger Woods for example, he probably paid everything towards his happy swinging life and the women paid nothing or they paid with money that he gave them. That just really amuses me. He could at least shoot for 40/60 or just do things they could both afford…like go outside and get some fresh air. Did he really have to pay for that sex? How neanderthal can you get.

[NotCranky]

Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.

I would be interested in a study to determine, amongst childless swingers, or swingers who are dating single mothers, “who pays more from the time the trist or uncommitted affair is intitiated until it is over, the man or the woman?” Do men and women who practice this modern, liberal lifestyle indefinitely make any economic occurences 100% equal, as it seems they would want to because of the evolutionary demands of that very liberation and equality? I am sure piggington swingers do but what would the results of broad poll determine?
Take Tiger Woods for example, he probably paid everything towards his happy swinging life and the women paid nothing or they paid with money that he gave them. That just really amuses me. He could at least shoot for 40/60 or just do things they could both afford…like go outside and get some fresh air. Did he really have to pay for that sex? How neanderthal can you get.

[NotCranky]

Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.

I would be interested in a study to determine, amongst childless swingers, or swingers who are dating single mothers, “who pays more from the time the trist or uncommitted affair is intitiated until it is over, the man or the woman?” Do men and women who practice this modern, liberal lifestyle indefinitely make any economic occurences 100% equal, as it seems they would want to because of the evolutionary demands of that very liberation and equality? I am sure piggington swingers do but what would the results of broad poll determine?
Take Tiger Woods for example, he probably paid everything towards his happy swinging life and the women paid nothing or they paid with money that he gave them. That just really amuses me. He could at least shoot for 40/60 or just do things they could both afford…like go outside and get some fresh air. Did he really have to pay for that sex? How neanderthal can you get.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.
[/quote]

Hijack, sort of.
This is another area that is a huge waste of money… these $30-50k weddings. How many couples spend HUGE sums on a party that lasts a few hours. And the catering industry is taking advantage – they typically charge more per plate for a wedding than any other kind of event.

We did a small wedding in San Diego (where my family lived), then a bigger party at a catering hall in Philly (where we were living at the time.) Including travel, the honeymoon, the dress (made by my best friend!), flowers, everything… it was less than 6k. Like I said – that included travel and the honeymoon – as well as feeding 100 folks.

The catering hall in Philly tried to up the price when they realized it was semi-wedding related. By $20/plate. But we held them to the contract, pointing out that we’d been married for 5 weeks by the time we had the party.

The wedding industry is a total rip-off. But families spend huge sums.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.
[/quote]

Hijack, sort of.
This is another area that is a huge waste of money… these $30-50k weddings. How many couples spend HUGE sums on a party that lasts a few hours. And the catering industry is taking advantage – they typically charge more per plate for a wedding than any other kind of event.

We did a small wedding in San Diego (where my family lived), then a bigger party at a catering hall in Philly (where we were living at the time.) Including travel, the honeymoon, the dress (made by my best friend!), flowers, everything… it was less than 6k. Like I said – that included travel and the honeymoon – as well as feeding 100 folks.

The catering hall in Philly tried to up the price when they realized it was semi-wedding related. By $20/plate. But we held them to the contract, pointing out that we’d been married for 5 weeks by the time we had the party.

The wedding industry is a total rip-off. But families spend huge sums.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.
[/quote]

Hijack, sort of.
This is another area that is a huge waste of money… these $30-50k weddings. How many couples spend HUGE sums on a party that lasts a few hours. And the catering industry is taking advantage – they typically charge more per plate for a wedding than any other kind of event.

We did a small wedding in San Diego (where my family lived), then a bigger party at a catering hall in Philly (where we were living at the time.) Including travel, the honeymoon, the dress (made by my best friend!), flowers, everything… it was less than 6k. Like I said – that included travel and the honeymoon – as well as feeding 100 folks.

The catering hall in Philly tried to up the price when they realized it was semi-wedding related. By $20/plate. But we held them to the contract, pointing out that we’d been married for 5 weeks by the time we had the party.

The wedding industry is a total rip-off. But families spend huge sums.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.
[/quote]

Hijack, sort of.
This is another area that is a huge waste of money… these $30-50k weddings. How many couples spend HUGE sums on a party that lasts a few hours. And the catering industry is taking advantage – they typically charge more per plate for a wedding than any other kind of event.

We did a small wedding in San Diego (where my family lived), then a bigger party at a catering hall in Philly (where we were living at the time.) Including travel, the honeymoon, the dress (made by my best friend!), flowers, everything… it was less than 6k. Like I said – that included travel and the honeymoon – as well as feeding 100 folks.

The catering hall in Philly tried to up the price when they realized it was semi-wedding related. By $20/plate. But we held them to the contract, pointing out that we’d been married for 5 weeks by the time we had the party.

The wedding industry is a total rip-off. But families spend huge sums.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]Dowries aside, traditionally the brides family has paid more for the pair bonding ceremonies and rituals in our culture. The engagement ring, being seen as part of that may may not have been enough to tip the scales of economic equality in favor of the brides side. This is in response to the part of the OP’s question. “What does the groom get of equal value in return.” Now, everybody does what they want. That’s cool.
[/quote]

Hijack, sort of.
This is another area that is a huge waste of money… these $30-50k weddings. How many couples spend HUGE sums on a party that lasts a few hours. And the catering industry is taking advantage – they typically charge more per plate for a wedding than any other kind of event.

We did a small wedding in San Diego (where my family lived), then a bigger party at a catering hall in Philly (where we were living at the time.) Including travel, the honeymoon, the dress (made by my best friend!), flowers, everything… it was less than 6k. Like I said – that included travel and the honeymoon – as well as feeding 100 folks.

The catering hall in Philly tried to up the price when they realized it was semi-wedding related. By $20/plate. But we held them to the contract, pointing out that we’d been married for 5 weeks by the time we had the party.

The wedding industry is a total rip-off. But families spend huge sums.

[Arraya]

Another bubble set to pop. The wedding spending bubble.

[Arraya]

Another bubble set to pop. The wedding spending bubble.

[Arraya]

Another bubble set to pop. The wedding spending bubble.

[Arraya]

Another bubble set to pop. The wedding spending bubble.

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