OT: Don’t F… with Americans….

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Allan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.

The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CONCHO]Allan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.

The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.[/quote]

CONCHO: You’re absolutely right. I should have completed my post by pointing out that the Europeans should be held accountable and responsible for their acts.

Their (Euro) behavior is unconscionable and, because they are civilized (and used to pontificating to the rest of us about our crimes), they should be held to a higher standard. Not trying to sound overly pessimistic, but I think we both know that nothing of the sort will ever happen. We’ll keep shooting pirates, while the UN and EU turn a blind eye to the dumping.

However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CONCHO]Allan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.

The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.[/quote]

CONCHO: You’re absolutely right. I should have completed my post by pointing out that the Europeans should be held accountable and responsible for their acts.

Their (Euro) behavior is unconscionable and, because they are civilized (and used to pontificating to the rest of us about our crimes), they should be held to a higher standard. Not trying to sound overly pessimistic, but I think we both know that nothing of the sort will ever happen. We’ll keep shooting pirates, while the UN and EU turn a blind eye to the dumping.

However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CONCHO]Allan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.

The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.[/quote]

CONCHO: You’re absolutely right. I should have completed my post by pointing out that the Europeans should be held accountable and responsible for their acts.

Their (Euro) behavior is unconscionable and, because they are civilized (and used to pontificating to the rest of us about our crimes), they should be held to a higher standard. Not trying to sound overly pessimistic, but I think we both know that nothing of the sort will ever happen. We’ll keep shooting pirates, while the UN and EU turn a blind eye to the dumping.

However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CONCHO]Allan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.

The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.[/quote]

CONCHO: You’re absolutely right. I should have completed my post by pointing out that the Europeans should be held accountable and responsible for their acts.

Their (Euro) behavior is unconscionable and, because they are civilized (and used to pontificating to the rest of us about our crimes), they should be held to a higher standard. Not trying to sound overly pessimistic, but I think we both know that nothing of the sort will ever happen. We’ll keep shooting pirates, while the UN and EU turn a blind eye to the dumping.

However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CONCHO]Allan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.

The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.[/quote]

CONCHO: You’re absolutely right. I should have completed my post by pointing out that the Europeans should be held accountable and responsible for their acts.

Their (Euro) behavior is unconscionable and, because they are civilized (and used to pontificating to the rest of us about our crimes), they should be held to a higher standard. Not trying to sound overly pessimistic, but I think we both know that nothing of the sort will ever happen. We’ll keep shooting pirates, while the UN and EU turn a blind eye to the dumping.

However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

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liberal think

Sorry Concho, you are clearly excusing the action of the pirate criminals by putting up an example of a provocation for these criminals, using the example as a means to equate the crime of the perpetrator and the victim, or to describe extenuating circumstances that relieve the responsibility of the perpetrators. It is classic misdirection.

You say that you’re not excusing the behavior of the pirates, but two sentences later, you actually mention that the criminality “started” with Europe.

[surveyor]

liberal think

Sorry Concho, you are clearly excusing the action of the pirate criminals by putting up an example of a provocation for these criminals, using the example as a means to equate the crime of the perpetrator and the victim, or to describe extenuating circumstances that relieve the responsibility of the perpetrators. It is classic misdirection.

You say that you’re not excusing the behavior of the pirates, but two sentences later, you actually mention that the criminality “started” with Europe.

[surveyor]

liberal think

Sorry Concho, you are clearly excusing the action of the pirate criminals by putting up an example of a provocation for these criminals, using the example as a means to equate the crime of the perpetrator and the victim, or to describe extenuating circumstances that relieve the responsibility of the perpetrators. It is classic misdirection.

You say that you’re not excusing the behavior of the pirates, but two sentences later, you actually mention that the criminality “started” with Europe.

[surveyor]

liberal think

Sorry Concho, you are clearly excusing the action of the pirate criminals by putting up an example of a provocation for these criminals, using the example as a means to equate the crime of the perpetrator and the victim, or to describe extenuating circumstances that relieve the responsibility of the perpetrators. It is classic misdirection.

You say that you’re not excusing the behavior of the pirates, but two sentences later, you actually mention that the criminality “started” with Europe.

[surveyor]

liberal think

Sorry Concho, you are clearly excusing the action of the pirate criminals by putting up an example of a provocation for these criminals, using the example as a means to equate the crime of the perpetrator and the victim, or to describe extenuating circumstances that relieve the responsibility of the perpetrators. It is classic misdirection.

You say that you’re not excusing the behavior of the pirates, but two sentences later, you actually mention that the criminality “started” with Europe.

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However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

Absolutely, and if you look at my posts on this topic I refer to them as criminals and goons. They deserve whatever happens to them, including bullets in the head.

What we should all ask ourselves is why we feel outrage against these pirate thugs but not against the corporate thugs that are doing a great deal more damage and who in fact started this whole cycle of sickening criminal behavior? Why aren’t our media doing exposes about French criminals dumping waste in Somali waters or South African fishermen poaching fish there?

You are unfortunately correct Allan, nothing is going to stop this short of the US taking the place over. Unfortunately there is only so much US power to go around and we’ve got our hands busy…

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However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

Absolutely, and if you look at my posts on this topic I refer to them as criminals and goons. They deserve whatever happens to them, including bullets in the head.

What we should all ask ourselves is why we feel outrage against these pirate thugs but not against the corporate thugs that are doing a great deal more damage and who in fact started this whole cycle of sickening criminal behavior? Why aren’t our media doing exposes about French criminals dumping waste in Somali waters or South African fishermen poaching fish there?

You are unfortunately correct Allan, nothing is going to stop this short of the US taking the place over. Unfortunately there is only so much US power to go around and we’ve got our hands busy…

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However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

Absolutely, and if you look at my posts on this topic I refer to them as criminals and goons. They deserve whatever happens to them, including bullets in the head.

What we should all ask ourselves is why we feel outrage against these pirate thugs but not against the corporate thugs that are doing a great deal more damage and who in fact started this whole cycle of sickening criminal behavior? Why aren’t our media doing exposes about French criminals dumping waste in Somali waters or South African fishermen poaching fish there?

You are unfortunately correct Allan, nothing is going to stop this short of the US taking the place over. Unfortunately there is only so much US power to go around and we’ve got our hands busy…

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However, in this particular instance, the pirates in question were NOT performing any sort of civil service, but were out there solely to perform a criminal act.

Absolutely, and if you look at my posts on this topic I refer to them as criminals and goons. They deserve whatever happens to them, including bullets in the head.

What we should all ask ourselves is why we feel outrage against these pirate thugs but not against the corporate thugs that are doing a great deal more damage and who in fact started this whole cycle of sickening criminal behavior? Why aren’t our media doing exposes about French criminals dumping waste in Somali waters or South African fishermen poaching fish there?

You are unfortunately correct Allan, nothing is going to stop this short of the US taking the place over. Unfortunately there is only so much US power to go around and we’ve got our hands busy…

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