ot; cholesterol…

[scaredyclassic]

you can change your blood. At least i can. I’ve been reading about cholesterol, hdl, ldl, triglycerides. I’m not sure what it all means, but i wanted better blood. I was very very good for 6 weeks and took another test for life insurance purposes. bad cholesterol down from 147 to 131. very intrigued by this. 16 points in 6 weeks. that’s about 2.5 points a week. i would like to see just how tuned i could get my blood.

it seems kind of controversial what cholesterol means and what matters, but it doesn’t seem like it would hurt to get into the proper guideline range…

[FlyerInHi]

Without a doubt, you can change your blood. if you train yourself to eat based on science rather than taste and culture, you can change your health.

Can you eat plain raw or steamed broccoli? Or do you need to drench it with sauce or cheese and salt?

Can you develop the strength of character to do it? My observation is that even health professionals can’t do it.

[NotCranky]

The French find any find personal dietary prohibition as bad manners…it truly is offensive and also self-belittling to dote on these things publicly. They are healthier than us.

Yeah, I more or less got that reading The Omnivore’s Dilemma.

But what’s up with all this exceptionalism through blood and food? That’s what it tends to look like anyway.

Stuck a feather in his cap …. but a lot of this stuff seems more about conceit, one ups-manship and eating disorder than health. Nanny nanny boo boo I didn’t have sauce in my stir-fry and you did!

[scaredyclassic]

yeah. it does.

and yet…why not try to get the blood in order?

why do many people i know just give up, say fuck it, take a statin?

frankly, it’s just kind of cool to try to make the number go down, and then make it go down.

althought not as cool as dwight chrute, who claimed in the office that he could raise and lower his cholesterol merely through the power of his mind alone.

[scaredyclassic]

Dwight Schrute: Through concentration, I can raise and lower my cholesterol at will.
Pam Beesly: Why would you want to raise your cholesterol?
Dwight Schrute: So I can lower it.

[scaredyclassic]

zillow actually has a blood cholesterol estimator attached to te housing estimate but it’s pretty rough.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar] Nanny nanny boo boo I didn’t have sauce in my stir-fry and you did![/quote]

Several times a week, I eat nice meals… but I pick and choose.

But at home, any kind of frying is prohibited.

It’s funny, I read about countries like Iran where people are rioting because the cost of cooking oil (seemingly a food staple) is skyrocketing. I’m thinking WTF do people need cooking oil for?

I like the programmable slow cooker/steamer. You can make lots of things that are healthy in one low cost electric device.

I once said something to a friend about his high cholesterol. He answered “I don’t have high cholesterol. that’s that statins is for.” How can you argue with that kind of logic?

[quote=Blogstar]The French find any find personal dietary prohibition as bad manners…it truly is offensive and also self-belittling to dote on these things publicly. They are healthier than us. [/quote]

The French are healthier than us only because they are poorer and can’t afford to eat as much. Plus everyone there has healthcare so poor people without healthcare dying off early don’t skew the stats like they do here. The refrigerators is Europe are often the size of our dishwashers.

The French have big pharma and are pills poppers too, but at state controlled costs. France is the second largest market for McDonalds.

[njtosd]

[quote=Blogstar]The French find any find personal dietary prohibition as bad manners…it truly is offensive and also self-belittling to dote on these things publicly. They are healthier than us.

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In some ways, yes. They also consume 50% more alcohol, on average, than Americans. But they smoke 20% fewer cigarettes, on average (according to the data I could find). I think what is healthy is probably very specific to the individual. And you are right – I think people take a “Holier than thou” attitude when it comes to food restrictions. I think diet/health has become the new religion, with all the good and bad motivations.

[scaredyclassic]

anything focusing on te purity of the blood by its very nature involces religion.

[spdrun]

Alcoholism isn’t a major cause of ill health in the US — I don’t think that a 50% increase in alcohol consumption over US levels would have a major effect on public health. If anything, fewer stressed-out teetotalers might be a good thing. Sit back, drink a glass of wine after dinner and chill out a bit.

[scaredyclassic]

a cholesterol test reads like a financial statement. or maybe a prospectus.

[scaredyclassic]

hell, eat whatever you want…just trying to get the numbers in line with lower mortality statistics. i need to live.

the internet says it’s not really the total cholesterol numebr that matters. actually it’s not really clear which numbers really matter. good cholesterol ,bad cholesterol, puffy cholesterol, little dangerous cholesterol bits. triglycerides. like the various saints and archangels…

still, i don’t want to push my luck.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]hell, eat whatever you want…just trying to get the numbers in line with lower mortality statistics. i need to live.
.[/quote]

Exactly how I feel. You need to live or want to live? I want.

Eat lots of steamed veggies and wild caught fish. No processed food.

Funny how eating simple is now considered stuck up.

Since I now eat simple, I prefer an electric cooktop in my home. Smooth and blends in almost seamlessly with the counter.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]hell, eat whatever you want…just trying to get the numbers in line with lower mortality statistics. i need to live.
.[/quote]

Exactly how I feel. You need to live or want to live? I want.

Eat lots of steamed veggies and wild caught fish. No processed food.

Funny how eating simple is now considered stuck up.

Since I now eat simple, I prefer an electric cooktop in my home. Smooth and blends in almost seamlessly with the counter.[/quote]

You’re teasing right? I feel worse about eating wild caught fish than any other food item. I do it , but it’s terrible what happened to the oceans and worse to the lakes and streams. Much worse killing wild animals than domesticated ones now that they have been so hard hit for so long( some populations of game being possible exceptions). I always pray to God that after we are gone the wild things can recover…and I am atheist….that’s my only prayer.

But lack of “stuck up” and inherent awesomeness of seamless cooktops going together, that’s got to be a joke right? Either way I am going to laugh at what I want to and eat what I want to.

[NotCranky]

On the other hand, I do wonder , should we call obesity what it is? Isn’t it self mutilation with food and life style?

I am sure we have no problem seeing an anorexic as self mutilating and the anorexic probably agrees…but when we do obese and all the health hazards that come with it, it’s sugar coated.

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