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October 10, 2015 at 7:09 PM #790121October 10, 2015 at 7:51 PM #790122njtosdParticipant
[quote=spdrun]
Don’t be dumb.
I’ll treat them politely, just like everyone else. I will not bend over and suck their cocks just because there’s a small chance one of them might be a thug. By that argument, I’d have to call everyone “sir” and treat them like a peasant treats a lord because they might be a psycho killer or mugger.
And if they ask me to suck, I’ll bite hard, even though pigskin isn’t kosher.[/quote]
Back to your delightful metaphors. There is probably a more articulate way of getting your point across . . .
October 10, 2015 at 7:57 PM #790123njtosdParticipant[quote=flyer]Sad to see so many of these incidents, but glad many are being visually documented, so (hopefully) those involved can be dealt with appropriately.
The world definitely seems to be evolving into a more hostile environment on all fronts, but it really shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise when you realize, even in the US, much of the population are literally fighting for their lives when it comes to things like long-term financial security/survival (and all that
includes–jobs, retirement, education, housing–etc.) for themselves and their families. Since a lot of anger goes along with that, it does tend to create chaos in society at many levels.[/quote]I don’t think it’s more hostile. I think we have a lot more data about what people do when they think they’re not being watched. In fact, my guess is that the fear of being caught on camera is causing police officers, and others, to behave better. Similar to DNA technology becoming available – it deterred criminals from committing crimes, especially those who feared that there might be evidence in the system of more than one crime.
October 10, 2015 at 9:48 PM #790124paramountParticipant[quote=flyer]
The world definitely seems to be evolving into a more hostile environment on all fronts, but it really shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise when you realize, even in the US, much of the population are literally fighting for their lives when it comes to things like long-term financial security/survival (and all that
includes–jobs, retirement, education, housing–etc.) for themselves and their families. Since a lot of anger goes along with that, it does tend to create chaos in society at many levels.[/quote]+1
As population continues to increase so will conflict.
October 11, 2015 at 10:29 AM #790128bearishgurlParticipantEven if a CA city, county or the state ends up “settling” a sworn staff’s “victim’s” claim (or lawsuit) for hundreds of thousands of dollars, the “offending” law enforcement officer(s) typically don’t have any pay deducted unless they have been formally disciplined by their departments and subsequently lose their disciplinary appeal through their own tribunal “kangaroo court” set up for this purpose. (Temporary “administrative leave” is generally WITH pay.)
The exception would be if an officer pleads guilty to or is convicted of a felony and/or a “crime of moral turpitude.”
A citizen who feels they have been wronged in the hands of a sheriff’s deputy or probation officer employed within San Diego County can also take their complaint to the Citizen’s Law Enforcement Review Board, a “peer-review” organization of sorts:
http://www.sandiegocounty.gov/clerb/
There may be law enforcement “peer-review systems” set up for other branches of law enforcement in San Diego County, as well.
October 11, 2015 at 10:35 AM #790129bearishgurlParticipantIN short, ALL CA law enforcement officers are subject to a lengthy “due process” procedure for all activities conducted while in the “line of duty” and some which aren’t in the line of duty. This is to protect them from being “damaged” (losing pay) over the many frivolous claims filed on their day-to-day activities.
In my mind, they should welcome cameras all over the place today, especially traffic patrollers with car-mounted cameras.
October 11, 2015 at 1:56 PM #790131paramountParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]IN short, ALL CA law enforcement officers are subject to a lengthy “due process” procedure for all activities conducted while in the “line of duty” and some which aren’t in the line of duty. This is to protect them from being “damaged” (losing pay) over the many frivolous claims filed on their day-to-day activities.
In my mind, they should welcome cameras all over the place today, especially traffic patrollers with car-mounted cameras.[/quote]
Allow me to summarize: They are above/exempt from the law.
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