OT – california lifestyle

[bibsoconner]

“Definitely. My sister and I would walk to the corner market when we were 4-6 years old. Walked to and from school by ourselves”

Just walked to the market and school? Luxury!
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’ mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi’ his belt.*

-Dave

*Possibly shamelessly stolen from Monty Python

[FlyerInHi]

In movies, kids are pretty independent. Ferris Bueller… etc.
My friends mentioned watching Brothers and Sisters. They expect LA to be just like that. I’m afraid they’ll be disappointed.

Traffic wise alone, it’s not possible to be in Pasadena, Downtown LA, Malibu, all in one afternoon, unless have a helicopter.

[flyer]

[quote=CA renter][quote=FlyerInHi]We went to the old spaghetti factory last night (bad food, never go there, but cheap and family oriented). Some kids running around In the restaurant were playing peek a boo with the guys. The mom didn’t mind but the dad clearly didn’t like it.[/quote]

I’m all for kids having freedoms, but they should have to earn their freedom by showing a sense of responsibility. Knowing how to behave in various venues is a big part of that. Personally, I hate it when kids run around screaming in restaurants. We started bringing our kids to restaurants when they were a few weeks old and taught them from day one how to behave. Not saying they are always perfect, but we’ve always gotten compliments from other patrons and servers/managers regarding their behavior, even at a very young age. We’ve never had any complaints or even gotten the evil stare from others, and we have two kids who had a difficult time with sitting still/managing different environments. If they acted up, we took them outside immediately. It was tough for awhile, but worked out well in the end.

It is NEVER acceptable to let one’s kid ruin another person’s night out. It might be that person’s only chance to get out in a month or so. It might be a very special occasion for them. Not okay to ruin that under any circumstances. We’ve been out with other families who never discipline their kids or teach them to be considerate of others. Not fun. This is a huge pet peeve of ours.[/quote]

So glad to hear that, CAr, because the way many parents today allow their kids to behave in public today astounds us.

Like you, we taught our kids to be respectful of others–wherever we went–including restaurants. My Dad used to say it wasn’t proper to “impose” on others–regardless of the circumstances–and, although he was probably overly strict with us, we all had genuine manners and concern for others, as our kids do.

I think, perhaps, the lack of manners today in people of all ages, stems from the way people were brought up, along with a false sense of entitlement that it’s OK to do whatever you want to do, regardless of how it effects others. IMO, if you don’t have respect for others–you really don’t have much respect for yourself–and that’s a sad way to live.

[CA renter]

[quote=bibsoconner]”Definitely. My sister and I would walk to the corner market when we were 4-6 years old. Walked to and from school by ourselves”

Just walked to the market and school? Luxury!
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’ mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi’ his belt.*

-Dave

*Possibly shamelessly stolen from Monty Python[/quote]

Love Monty Python! 🙂

As for the California lifestyle, it’s funny to see how people’s faces light up here on the east coast when you say you’re from California. And some of these people live in the desirable areas in NYC, too. I’ve heard others who’re in groups we’ve been with mention they’re from a variety of countries and states, but when we mention that we’re from California, that seems to be the biggest deal. It’s interesting to note this.

[scaredyclassic]

I honestly can’t think of a place I’d rather live than Temecula ca.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]I honestly can’t think of a place I’d rather live than Temecula ca.[/quote]

That’s a good state of mind. I bet you thought the same wherever you lived before.

[The-Shoveler]

No matter where you go, there you are.

Seems almost zen like.

[scaredyclassic]

I feel like I live in a charmed place. It’s difficult to put into words.

[flyer]

We feel the same about our location, scaredy. Know exactly what you mean.

[scaredyclassic]

I think basically I’ve gotten a tremendously good bounce in life so I attribute a lot of my luck in life to my surroundings.

[The-Shoveler]

I feel really fortunate for having been born and raised in SoCal,

I am sure I would not have had the experience of surfing etc.. while I was growing up or the career opportunities I have enjoyed if I was raised in most other Cities/states.

Anyway My two cents on that.

[zk]

If I had a billion dollars, I wouldn’t move more than a mile or two from where we’re at right now. I think San Diego is a beautiful place to live.

[Jazzman]

Service is good, food portions are obscene, weather is sunny yes, but dry which is why there is no green, Freeways are a nightmare. Soda refills are a bad idea. That stuff is pure chemical and sugar. California girls are friendly, which I suppose is appealing. CA life style is good, but not for the reasons stated above in my view. But you are being ironic, yes?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Jazzman]Service is good, food portions are obscene, weather is sunny yes, but dry which is why there is no green, Freeways are a nightmare. Soda refills are a bad idea. That stuff is pure chemical and sugar. California girls are friendly, which I suppose is appealing. CA life style is good, but not for the reasons stated above in my view. But you are being ironic, yes?[/quote]

By and large, service is the best in the world. In some countries you can get good service also, but the servers don’t have any knowledge. Especially in LA, people with Masters might hold dayjobs at restaurants or hotels.

Freeways are not a nightmare compared to most places in the the world.

Drinking the soda is a bad idea. But the free refills are good value for the customer. Free iced tea refills is an option.

There are pros and cons to all places in the world. I’m being somewhat ironic… But California ranks pretty high up there as a desirable place to live.

[FlyerInHi]

I took them so Caesar’s Palace buffet. They have never seen so much food before… hahaha…

We also went to Burger Lounge in Hillcrest, PF Chang’s at UTC, the Yard House, Gordon Ramsey’s Burgr in Vegas. They loved it all. I rarely eat that stuff, but I knew they’d like it.

They love Cinnabon too.

I guess our food is addictive. I’m so glad I don’t have the food addiction gene.

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