OT – california lifestyle

[flyer]

Sounds like you and your family are having a great time, FIH. It’s always fun to see CA and other destinations through the eyes of people who have never before visited a certain locale.

I agree that every location in the world has it’s pros and cons. Imho, if you have a choice of where you live, you have to decide what lifestyle elements are important to you and your family–and that’s a very individual decision.

We’ve visited and lived a lot of other places, but when it comes to home base, we can’t find anything we like more than CA, and, specifically San Diego.

We’ve seen a lot of people come and go from our fair state, not because they didn’t like it here, but because they (or their families) couldn’t sustain their preferred standard of living here, long-term. In the final analysis, I think that’s really what makes it or breaks it for many people.

[barnaby33]

As someone who has both traveled extensively and hosts Airbnb guests from other countries (currently 2 Italians) I couldn’t disagree more. Europeans actually travel less. Often I hear from them, especially when they are here, how their families and friends question their desires to travel. As in, “why would you go to America?” Plus most European countries host passport percentages about the same as the US. Now if you are referring to Germans going to Austria for the weekend, that is hardly traveling.

Ahh the fuzzy romantic notions we have of others.

Josh

[spdrun]

I disagree. Anecdotally, when I was growing up in NJ, I knew quite a few people who had never been to NYC (50 min train ride) let alone Maine or California.

And this was in 80s/90s when people had more free time than now.

[FlyerInHi]

They left for LA in their own. They said LA is not San Diego, haha.
LA looks much better in the movies so reality is a letdown.

I got clarification on California people in general. They said there are lots of not so attractive people here. But the good looking people are much better looking. Bifurcation. Again not like in the movies.

[The-Shoveler]

I have heard it said that the Movie version of L.A. is more real than the real L.A. LOL.

Everything looks better at the right angle and light and more real with the right intensity.

[FlyerInHi]

I love the palm trees of LA in movies.

[Anonymous]

Any possibility that our childhood memories are different from our actual childhood?

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I love the palm trees of LA in movies.[/quote]

I have about 25 palm tres. I hate thdm.

I like pepper trees.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I love the palm trees of LA in movies.[/quote]

I have about 25 palm tres. I hate thdm.

I like pepper trees.

[FlyerInHi]

Pepper trees sux. They have thin little leaves and are brittle. They grow fast so that’s why they plant them.

Go with native oak trees. But they take a long time to grow. In 30 years, your property will look really nice with oak trees.

[KSMountain]

In 4th grade (I was only 8 at the start of that year) I was walking me and my 2nd grade brother to school about 1/2 to 3/4 mile (PB to Birdrock).

Can you imagine nowadays? It never would be considered. My mom, who showed me the walking route all that time ago, never considered such a thing for her grandson even as a 14 year old entering high school.

So strange. I wonder is the danger really higher or just the perception of the danger? If the former then that is a huge societal failure – for things to be much worse 30 years later…

[CA renter]

[quote=KSMountain]In 4th grade (I was only 8 at the start of that year) I was walking me and my 2nd grade brother to school about 1/2 to 3/4 mile (PB to Birdrock).

Can you imagine nowadays? It never would be considered. My mom, who showed me the walking route all that time ago, never considered such a thing for her grandson even as a 14 year old entering high school.

So strange. I wonder is the danger really higher or just the perception of the danger? If the former then that is a huge societal failure – for things to be much worse 30 years later…[/quote]

Statistics show that the crime rate is down by quite a bit since we were young. Whether this is because the world is a safer place, or if it’s because more parents are helicopter parents, is up for debate.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=KSMountain]
So strange. I wonder is the danger really higher or just the perception of the danger? If the former then that is a huge societal failure – for things to be much worse 30 years later…[/quote]

Its the perception, for better or worse the media has hyped us into a kind of mass paranoia.

Not sure its a good thing or bad, it just is.

When you step back I find it very interesting how easily the Media manipulates society.

The world in general is much safer than it was 60-70 years ago but most people would never believe that if you tell them.

[poorgradstudent]

California’s women (and men?) are amazing compared to most of the world. I grew up in the midwest where most of us went into hibernation and packed on pounds during the cold winter months. We have year-round pleasant weather in Cali which makes it both easier and provides incentive for year round maintainance.

When I was 16 and underweight I loved big glasses with free refills of soda. Now I love big glasses with free refills of water (which you can’t get in some parts of Europe). Plus ice! None of that lukewarm water for us.

That said, anyone who loves California Freeways probably doesn’t drive much at rush hour!

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=KSMountain]
So strange. I wonder is the danger really higher or just the perception of the danger? If the former then that is a huge societal failure – for things to be much worse 30 years later…[/quote]

Its the perception, for better or worse the media has hyped us into a kind of mass paranoia.

Not sure its a good thing or bad, it just is.

When you step back I find it very interesting how easily the Media manipulates society.

The world in general is much safer than it was 60-70 years ago but most people would never believe that if you tell them.[/quote]

I’ve had this discussion with my wife. The fact is although the world overall is safer, thanks to mass media and the internet, we hear about every horrible crime that occurs much faster.

Also, people are having fewer children. When you sink more time, energy and resources into one or two children, you’re more likely to fret for their safety. I’m not saying parents with four or five wouldn’t freak out to lose a child. But it’s much easier to make a rational decision to take on a very small risk that your 9 year old will get abducted walking to school alone when yo uhave three other kids to worry about vs. when that’s your only child.

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