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November 12, 2011 at 6:24 PM #732805November 12, 2011 at 6:25 PM #732806markmax33Guest
[quote=walterwhite]I guess that’s the problem. No just anybody gets to decide constitutional law issues. Ultimately, the Supreme Court gets the last say. You can disagree. You can say Gore v. Bush was a travesty, you can say Scalia is hypocritical, you can complain until you’re blue in the face…but the ultimate arbiter of constitutionality is the Supreme Court. If they say it is constitutional, then it is. That’s just the way it is.
If you ask me, I’d say Roe v. Wade did not violate the constitution. My opinion has nothing to do with the issues involved. My opinion is based on the fact that it is a validly issued United States Supreme Court opinion. If they had come outt he other way, I would have the same opinion. It’s constitutional.[/quote]
Go read article 1 section 8 and tell me how the federal GOV had authority in that area! LOLOL!
November 12, 2011 at 6:52 PM #732807SK in CVParticipant[quote=markmax33]
You read article 1 section 8 and tell me how they were able to make that ruling. It should have never entered the Supreme Court.[/quote]You’re looking in the wrong section to find how they were able to make that ruling. Try Article III, Section 2.
November 12, 2011 at 7:03 PM #732808SK in CVParticipant[quote=markmax33]
Go read article 1 section 8 and tell me how the federal GOV had authority in that area! LOLOL![/quote]You really don’t know anything about Roe v. Wade, do you?
It neither overturned nor upheld any federal laws.
oh, and i forgot. LOLOL!
November 12, 2011 at 7:05 PM #732809scaredyclassicParticipantLOL?
sheesh.
November 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM #732810markmax33Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]
You read article 1 section 8 and tell me how they were able to make that ruling. It should have never entered the Supreme Court.[/quote]You’re looking in the wrong section to find how they were able to make that ruling. Try Article III, Section 2.[/quote]
Article 1 section 8 is the discussion on the Federal GOV’s authority. Everything starts there. Article III is not applicable before considering Article 1.
November 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM #732811markmax33Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]
Go read article 1 section 8 and tell me how the federal GOV had authority in that area! LOLOL![/quote]You really don’t know anything about Roe v. Wade, do you?
It neither overturned nor upheld any federal laws.
oh, and i forgot. LOLOL![/quote]
It CREATED a GOV authority in an AREA not authorized by Article 1 section 8! Why isn’t this clear to everyone?!
All laws start with the Congress in the Constitution and the legislative branch in article 1 section 8. IF THERE IS NO AUTHORITY IN THAT AREA THE SUPREME COURT RULING IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
November 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM #732812scaredyclassicParticipantyou say you want a revolution, well you know, we’d all love to change the world.
I’m really not trying to pull rank on you. really. but i did go to a top 20 law school, graduated at the top of the class, got the 2nd highest grade in con law.
we had conservative profs and liberal profs. often you couldn’t tell which was which. they were all hardcore scholars who questioned you hard and made you question what you thought you knew.
That said, I’ve forgotten pretty much everything.
but.
I remember that it’s not so simple.
November 12, 2011 at 7:23 PM #732813SK in CVParticipant[quote=markmax33]
It CREATED a GOV authority in an AREA not authorized by Article 1 section 8! Why isn’t this clear to everyone?!.[/quote]Because it didn’t create a government authority.
[quote=markmax33]All laws start with the Congress in the Constitution and the legislative branch in article 1 section 8. [/quote]
Except for those that don’t. Like all state and municipal laws. I thought Ron Paul liked states rights?
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IF THERE IS NO AUTHORITY IN THAT AREA THE SUPREME COURT RULING IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.[/quote]The authority is in Article III, Section 2. The ruling cites rights granted in the 14th amendment. It has nothing to do with anything in Art.I, Sec. 8.
I know Sec. 8 is pretty important to Ron Paul. I think he would be pretty embarrassed the way you’re throwing it around.
And be careful here. I’m setting a trap for you. Please don’t walk into it. It will hurt.
November 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM #732816scaredyclassicParticipantScreaming in all caps sounds unlawyerly. Try a subtler italicization for better results. I once was threatens with sanctions for using a larger font size in my youth in a portion of a motion. The court felt I was contemptuously yelling at it.
I ultimately wasn’t sanctioned but it was only due to my incredible ability to grovel and beg and apologize sincerely.
November 12, 2011 at 8:17 PM #732817scaredyclassicParticipantAll I can vaguely remember is penumbra and due process.
Due process means….
Ummm…
Errr…..
I am not prepared for the exam.
November 12, 2011 at 8:23 PM #732818scaredyclassicParticipantWe actually read roe v Wade .. All these long opinions… I remember being grilled on some odd footnote and its potential significance
November 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM #732819gandalfParticipant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=markmax33][quote=urbanrealtor]
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of de-nationalizing education.Good catch SK[/quote]
Too bad he was wrong 100% wrong.[/quote]
Apparently Rich agrees with you.
As proven by this quote I have carefully extracted from my rectum.
[quote=Rich Toscano]See, Markmax is my very favoritist troll on this board. I heart his misattributions so.
Everything he says is right.Also, Dan the Urbanrealtor is very very handsome.
His farts smell like fresh biscuits.
I hope someday to do ballet as beautifully as him.I am hoping that these two will pull me into a new, incredibly shallow, political slugfest.
Its the reason I wake up in the morning.
Also, Allan is a socialist and I am a turnip.
And I am the secret identity of Doug Henning.[img_assist|nid=15559|title=Rich-turnip|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=384|height=288]
[/quote][/quote]Best evar, Dan’o…
You are the hippest shark in the ocean.
November 13, 2011 at 10:08 AM #732828ShadowfaxParticipantDid someone say SHARK?
November 13, 2011 at 12:29 PM #732837Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Shadowfax]Did someone say SHARK?[/quote]
Shadowfax: Ah, geez…
“Shark Hearing
Sharks have extremely sensitive hearing. They can identify much lower sounds than human ears can detect, and some can hear sounds more than 700 feet away. Some scientists think hearing is typically the first sense sharks use in detecting their prey.”
From FactMonster.com
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