OT: beer

[paramount]

Anyone know where “Piney the Elder” can be bought bottled?

[CA renter]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar]Never in my life not even up to 35 or so years ago when I had my first beer would it have occurred to me that there were not enough good beers…and I like beer a little bit. I am humored by the variety now more than anything, it’s funny to see the hype like little kids trading poke,e,mon cards or something. Same with cigars and wine . Little boys become big boys only the price of their toys goes up.[/quote]

no, seriously, im willing to agree that all wine tastes about the same…but a good IPA is not like a regular commercial beer, any more than kraft mac and cheese is like a bit of goat cheese from some foofy shop.

not saying it’s necessarily ultimately better, just different…[/quote]

FWIW, the good beers also don’t go through you like the cheap beers do. You don’t have to hang around the bathroom all day/night when you drink good beer.

As afx already mentioned, there is no place like Stone in Escondido. Hate to put it on the internet because I don’t want to make it even more crowded, but Mr. CAR and I have agreed that Stone Brewing World Bistro & Gardens in Escondido is about as close to heaven as you’ll ever get on earth. It’s pretty kid-friendly, too, because of the beautiful gardens. We want to live there. 🙂

[NotCranky]

http://sandiegobeerfestival.com/beer-competition/beer-styles

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=scaredyclassic]im willing to agree that all wine tastes about the same[/quote]

That’s the nuttiest thing I’ve read on this blog since paramount’s NAMBLA comment…

For myself, I’ve grown tired of IPA… it’s like a hops arms race now. My favorite is “regular” pale ale, with some hops but not overpowered by them. Unfortunately (for me), IPA is all the rage right now and pale ale has become a lot less common in recent years.

[SK in CV]

[quote=CA renter]

FWIW, the good beers also don’t go through you like the cheap beers do. [/quote]

Umm….yes, they do. And because many craft beers have higher alcohol content than cheap beer, they go through you even faster. Alcohol is a diuretic. And that doesn’t matter whether the alcohol is in Pabst or in Arrogant Bastard. But if you drink less, you’ll pee less.

[CA renter]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=CA renter]

FWIW, the good beers also don’t go through you like the cheap beers do. [/quote]

Umm….yes, they do. And because many craft beers have higher alcohol content than cheap beer, they go through you even faster. Alcohol is a diuretic. And that doesn’t matter whether the alcohol is in Pabst or in Arrogant Bastard. But if you drink less, you’ll pee less.[/quote]

Not the experience of my DH or myself…or the others with whom we’ve discussed this. But we can take a Pigg poll! 😉

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CA renter][quote=SK in CV][quote=CA renter]

FWIW, the good beers also don’t go through you like the cheap beers do. [/quote]

Umm….yes, they do. And because many craft beers have higher alcohol content than cheap beer, they go through you even faster. Alcohol is a diuretic. And that doesn’t matter whether the alcohol is in Pabst or in Arrogant Bastard. But if you drink less, you’ll pee less.[quote]

Not the experience of my DH or myself…or the others with whom we’ve discussed this. But we can take a Pigg poll! ;)[/quote]

There’s an old joke that holds you don’t buy beer, you rent it.

[Cube]

Rich,

Have you tried the Deschutes Red Chair “Northwest Pale Ale”? By their own estimation: “The citrus punch of a big IPA, minus the one-dimensional hop sledgehammer.”

I agree though on the pale ale sentiment. I reach for the pale ale more often than the IPA these days.

Of course, I reach for porters and stouts more than most other things these days….

[CA renter]

[quote=Blogstar]http://sandiegobeerfestival.com/beer-competition/beer-styles[/quote]

Wow, so many varieties! We should have a competition to see who can drink the most samples. 🙂

[Rich Toscano]

Thanks for the tip, Cube… no I haven’t tried it but I will keep an eye out for it. I like Deschutes, generally speaking.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=Rich Toscano][quote=scaredyclassic]im willing to agree that all wine tastes about the same[/quote]

That’s the nuttiest thing I’ve read on this blog since paramount’s NAMBLA comment…

For myself, I’ve grown tired of IPA… it’s like a hops arms race now. My favorite is “regular” pale ale, with some hops but not overpowered by them. Unfortunately (for me), IPA is all the rage right now and pale ale has become a lot less common in recent years.[/quote]

http://io9.com/wine-tasting-is-bullshit-heres-why-496098276

google wine tasting is bullshit generally and this link to get to the study that blind tase testing experts cant even tell red from white with no visual cue.

i think i can tell abysmally spoiled wine from ok wine, and someotimes something tastes particularly good, but…probably i cant even tell that…

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=paramount]Anyone know where “Piney the Elder” can be bought bottled?[/quote]

barons on rancho cal., except the clerk tells me people line up for it and they limit you to 0ne bottle. people have gotten so pesky aabout pliny and blind pig that they may ahve already discontinued it. something about pliny has brought on a kind of mania…

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=scaredyclassic]

http://io9.com/wine-tasting-is-bullshit-heres-why-496098276

google wine tasting is bullshit generally and this link to get to the study that blind tase testing experts cant even tell red from white with no visual cue.

i think i can tell abysmally spoiled wine from ok wine, and someotimes something tastes particularly good, but…probably i cant even tell that…[/quote]

I read that article a while back, the author doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The studies he cites suggest that a lot of the stuff wine reviewers say is nonsense, and that the palate can be influenced by a lot of things besides the taste of the wine — I totally agree with both. But he make this giant logical leap to draw sweeping conclusions, eg that it’s impossible to distinguish good from bad wine, which is just stupid. It’s not a good article, I’m sorry.

I will agree that for some people (maybe most people?), most wine tastes more or less the same. But your article assumes that’s the case for everyone, which is just isn’t. (BTW the article is clearly written by such a person). I don’t know what accounts for this difference. I have a really good sense of smell, I can always smell things other people can’t, so I’ve wondered if that’s it. But whatever the reason… the difference between what I perceive as a good wine and a non-good wine is just night and day.

[SK in CV]

[quote=scaredyclassic]google wine tasting is bullshit generally and this link to get to the study that blind tase testing experts cant even tell red from white with no visual cue.

i think i can tell abysmally spoiled wine from ok wine, and someotimes something tastes particularly good, but…probably i cant even tell that…[/quote]

There really are people that can tell the most minute differences. I went out with a woman that was a upper-tier chef school trained sommelier. To graduate, she had to taste wine blindfolded and identify the grape, where it was from, the vintage and all kinds of other shit. We were at a fancy restaurant and got to talking with the sommelier, and they were talking shop. They did a little parlor trick and between the two of them, they could still identify the details for about 8 out of 10 wines. They were 10 for 10 in identifying the grape and country of origin.

Funny think about her was, she didn’t even like wine. She only went through the training because her husband was very involved in a wine tasting group and she didn’t want to feel left out. (Peripherally related to other threads, her husband was the CFO for Smith & Wesson.)

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