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August 15, 2011 at 5:05 PM #720841August 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM #719634North15Participant
We have one of the best CC in the state at MiraCosta College at San Elijo. Take a look at the credentials of the teaching staff. And ask any parent that had kids there. The quality of the 2 years at MiraCosta is superior to that of the first 2 years at CSU or UC. Driven by small class size and the quality of the teaching staff.
August 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM #719727North15ParticipantWe have one of the best CC in the state at MiraCosta College at San Elijo. Take a look at the credentials of the teaching staff. And ask any parent that had kids there. The quality of the 2 years at MiraCosta is superior to that of the first 2 years at CSU or UC. Driven by small class size and the quality of the teaching staff.
August 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM #720327North15ParticipantWe have one of the best CC in the state at MiraCosta College at San Elijo. Take a look at the credentials of the teaching staff. And ask any parent that had kids there. The quality of the 2 years at MiraCosta is superior to that of the first 2 years at CSU or UC. Driven by small class size and the quality of the teaching staff.
August 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM #720483North15ParticipantWe have one of the best CC in the state at MiraCosta College at San Elijo. Take a look at the credentials of the teaching staff. And ask any parent that had kids there. The quality of the 2 years at MiraCosta is superior to that of the first 2 years at CSU or UC. Driven by small class size and the quality of the teaching staff.
August 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM #720846North15ParticipantWe have one of the best CC in the state at MiraCosta College at San Elijo. Take a look at the credentials of the teaching staff. And ask any parent that had kids there. The quality of the 2 years at MiraCosta is superior to that of the first 2 years at CSU or UC. Driven by small class size and the quality of the teaching staff.
August 15, 2011 at 5:30 PM #719644sdduuuudeParticipantEmployers don’t use resumes to find all the applicant’s they want. They use them to find the applicants they don’t want.
As such, resumes are not used to get jobs, they are used to get interviews. When I was younger, having Stanford on my resume got me interviews. Many companies limit the number of schools they recruit. Unlikely they are going to a community college.
As you get older, however, your reputation takes precedence over most everything else, including the school you attended.
The other students at Stanford were exceptional people, for sure. Making friends with them was an unexpected benefit and – all things considered – a better benefit than the education. Difficult to quantify the dollar value of meeting them as opposed to some other group of people at a different graduate program.
Keep in mind – this is was for graduate school. I wouldn’t want to go there for under-grad, nor would I want my kids to. It is too intense, too competitive, too un-fun and too expensive for my taste.
August 15, 2011 at 5:30 PM #719737sdduuuudeParticipantEmployers don’t use resumes to find all the applicant’s they want. They use them to find the applicants they don’t want.
As such, resumes are not used to get jobs, they are used to get interviews. When I was younger, having Stanford on my resume got me interviews. Many companies limit the number of schools they recruit. Unlikely they are going to a community college.
As you get older, however, your reputation takes precedence over most everything else, including the school you attended.
The other students at Stanford were exceptional people, for sure. Making friends with them was an unexpected benefit and – all things considered – a better benefit than the education. Difficult to quantify the dollar value of meeting them as opposed to some other group of people at a different graduate program.
Keep in mind – this is was for graduate school. I wouldn’t want to go there for under-grad, nor would I want my kids to. It is too intense, too competitive, too un-fun and too expensive for my taste.
August 15, 2011 at 5:30 PM #720337sdduuuudeParticipantEmployers don’t use resumes to find all the applicant’s they want. They use them to find the applicants they don’t want.
As such, resumes are not used to get jobs, they are used to get interviews. When I was younger, having Stanford on my resume got me interviews. Many companies limit the number of schools they recruit. Unlikely they are going to a community college.
As you get older, however, your reputation takes precedence over most everything else, including the school you attended.
The other students at Stanford were exceptional people, for sure. Making friends with them was an unexpected benefit and – all things considered – a better benefit than the education. Difficult to quantify the dollar value of meeting them as opposed to some other group of people at a different graduate program.
Keep in mind – this is was for graduate school. I wouldn’t want to go there for under-grad, nor would I want my kids to. It is too intense, too competitive, too un-fun and too expensive for my taste.
August 15, 2011 at 5:30 PM #720493sdduuuudeParticipantEmployers don’t use resumes to find all the applicant’s they want. They use them to find the applicants they don’t want.
As such, resumes are not used to get jobs, they are used to get interviews. When I was younger, having Stanford on my resume got me interviews. Many companies limit the number of schools they recruit. Unlikely they are going to a community college.
As you get older, however, your reputation takes precedence over most everything else, including the school you attended.
The other students at Stanford were exceptional people, for sure. Making friends with them was an unexpected benefit and – all things considered – a better benefit than the education. Difficult to quantify the dollar value of meeting them as opposed to some other group of people at a different graduate program.
Keep in mind – this is was for graduate school. I wouldn’t want to go there for under-grad, nor would I want my kids to. It is too intense, too competitive, too un-fun and too expensive for my taste.
August 15, 2011 at 5:30 PM #720856sdduuuudeParticipantEmployers don’t use resumes to find all the applicant’s they want. They use them to find the applicants they don’t want.
As such, resumes are not used to get jobs, they are used to get interviews. When I was younger, having Stanford on my resume got me interviews. Many companies limit the number of schools they recruit. Unlikely they are going to a community college.
As you get older, however, your reputation takes precedence over most everything else, including the school you attended.
The other students at Stanford were exceptional people, for sure. Making friends with them was an unexpected benefit and – all things considered – a better benefit than the education. Difficult to quantify the dollar value of meeting them as opposed to some other group of people at a different graduate program.
Keep in mind – this is was for graduate school. I wouldn’t want to go there for under-grad, nor would I want my kids to. It is too intense, too competitive, too un-fun and too expensive for my taste.
August 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM #719659CA renterParticipant[quote=AN]How much can you truly save vs how much lost income when you don’t graduate in 4 years? Especially when you go to a UC or a CSU. UCSD tuition is $13,234/yr, if you go to JC, you’ll save on GE classes, and a couple math classes. But JC transfer usually take 5-6 years to graduate with the same degree vs 4. So, you’re saving $13-26k, but then if you get out and get a job for $40k, then your $13k-26k savings become negative saving of $14k-27k. This is assuming you go to a UC near home. That CSU cost number is about half of UC.[/quote]
I’m following you up until the point that the savings becomes negative with a $40K job. How does the eventual income differ between a CC-to-CSU/UC graduate vs. a four-year CSU/UC graduate?
When you graduate from a CSU or UC, your degree looks exactly the same, irrespective of whether or not you spent your first two years at a CC or the CSU/UC.
One more thing…most CC students also work (often full-time hours), which is why they usually take longer to graduate than the CSU/UC students. IMHO, this work experience is far more important than graduating one year earlier. In my experience, it was my work experience during the college years that opened all the doors, not the degree. I was already “in demand” — during a recession — with recruiters calling me with very lucrative offers by the time I graduated…all because of the reputation I had built up while working through college.
August 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM #719752CA renterParticipant[quote=AN]How much can you truly save vs how much lost income when you don’t graduate in 4 years? Especially when you go to a UC or a CSU. UCSD tuition is $13,234/yr, if you go to JC, you’ll save on GE classes, and a couple math classes. But JC transfer usually take 5-6 years to graduate with the same degree vs 4. So, you’re saving $13-26k, but then if you get out and get a job for $40k, then your $13k-26k savings become negative saving of $14k-27k. This is assuming you go to a UC near home. That CSU cost number is about half of UC.[/quote]
I’m following you up until the point that the savings becomes negative with a $40K job. How does the eventual income differ between a CC-to-CSU/UC graduate vs. a four-year CSU/UC graduate?
When you graduate from a CSU or UC, your degree looks exactly the same, irrespective of whether or not you spent your first two years at a CC or the CSU/UC.
One more thing…most CC students also work (often full-time hours), which is why they usually take longer to graduate than the CSU/UC students. IMHO, this work experience is far more important than graduating one year earlier. In my experience, it was my work experience during the college years that opened all the doors, not the degree. I was already “in demand” — during a recession — with recruiters calling me with very lucrative offers by the time I graduated…all because of the reputation I had built up while working through college.
August 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM #720352CA renterParticipant[quote=AN]How much can you truly save vs how much lost income when you don’t graduate in 4 years? Especially when you go to a UC or a CSU. UCSD tuition is $13,234/yr, if you go to JC, you’ll save on GE classes, and a couple math classes. But JC transfer usually take 5-6 years to graduate with the same degree vs 4. So, you’re saving $13-26k, but then if you get out and get a job for $40k, then your $13k-26k savings become negative saving of $14k-27k. This is assuming you go to a UC near home. That CSU cost number is about half of UC.[/quote]
I’m following you up until the point that the savings becomes negative with a $40K job. How does the eventual income differ between a CC-to-CSU/UC graduate vs. a four-year CSU/UC graduate?
When you graduate from a CSU or UC, your degree looks exactly the same, irrespective of whether or not you spent your first two years at a CC or the CSU/UC.
One more thing…most CC students also work (often full-time hours), which is why they usually take longer to graduate than the CSU/UC students. IMHO, this work experience is far more important than graduating one year earlier. In my experience, it was my work experience during the college years that opened all the doors, not the degree. I was already “in demand” — during a recession — with recruiters calling me with very lucrative offers by the time I graduated…all because of the reputation I had built up while working through college.
August 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM #720508CA renterParticipant[quote=AN]How much can you truly save vs how much lost income when you don’t graduate in 4 years? Especially when you go to a UC or a CSU. UCSD tuition is $13,234/yr, if you go to JC, you’ll save on GE classes, and a couple math classes. But JC transfer usually take 5-6 years to graduate with the same degree vs 4. So, you’re saving $13-26k, but then if you get out and get a job for $40k, then your $13k-26k savings become negative saving of $14k-27k. This is assuming you go to a UC near home. That CSU cost number is about half of UC.[/quote]
I’m following you up until the point that the savings becomes negative with a $40K job. How does the eventual income differ between a CC-to-CSU/UC graduate vs. a four-year CSU/UC graduate?
When you graduate from a CSU or UC, your degree looks exactly the same, irrespective of whether or not you spent your first two years at a CC or the CSU/UC.
One more thing…most CC students also work (often full-time hours), which is why they usually take longer to graduate than the CSU/UC students. IMHO, this work experience is far more important than graduating one year earlier. In my experience, it was my work experience during the college years that opened all the doors, not the degree. I was already “in demand” — during a recession — with recruiters calling me with very lucrative offers by the time I graduated…all because of the reputation I had built up while working through college.
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