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August 16, 2011 at 1:49 AM #721055August 16, 2011 at 1:52 AM #719849CA renterParticipant
[quote=AN][quote=CA renter][quote=AN][quote=CA renter]$5,000/year…yes, it’s worth it. As a matter of fact, CC students get priority over continuing students when they transfer for their junior year. IMHO, CC is a winner, all around.[/quote]
$4k/year, not $5k/year. $4k is not worth it if you lose a year from your professional career.[/quote]Going from your quote:
If you want to compete CSU vs CC WRT cost, CSU tuition is $6,562. Tuition for SD CC is ~$1500/year. That’s a cost difference of $4k/year.
The difference between $6,562 and $1,500 is $5, 062, not $4,000. [CC graduate! π ]
Still, not sure if you’d actually lose a year from your professional career…some might, but others won’t. Even if you did, you can always work that “extra year” at the end of your career, if you’re worried about not having that one extra year’s worth of income (not sure if that’s what you’re arguing).[/quote]
Oops, good catch. Dang math, kills me every time πIs that $5k worth having to work an extra year? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Time = $ and I’m pretty sure it takes more time to graduate from a CC and a CSU/UC. That’s my main point, typically, it take at least an extra year to graduate from CC->CSU/UC vs going straight to CSU/UC. The reason I pick $40k number (just an arbitrary starting salary for a typical BS degree). It could be more it could be less. If you’re talking about adding one “extra year”, then the person who went straight to CSU/UC can work an extra year too.
Another way to look at it is, you have 47 years of your life for secondary school and work. Lets say you spend 5 years in college and 42 years of work and you save $5k-12k in school. But if you go straight to CSU/UC and graduate in 4 years. You’d spend 4 years in college and 43 years in working. You spend $5-12k more in school, but you’ll be making 1 extra year of salary.[/quote]
Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.
August 16, 2011 at 1:52 AM #719941CA renterParticipant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter][quote=AN][quote=CA renter]$5,000/year…yes, it’s worth it. As a matter of fact, CC students get priority over continuing students when they transfer for their junior year. IMHO, CC is a winner, all around.[/quote]
$4k/year, not $5k/year. $4k is not worth it if you lose a year from your professional career.[/quote]Going from your quote:
If you want to compete CSU vs CC WRT cost, CSU tuition is $6,562. Tuition for SD CC is ~$1500/year. That’s a cost difference of $4k/year.
The difference between $6,562 and $1,500 is $5, 062, not $4,000. [CC graduate! π ]
Still, not sure if you’d actually lose a year from your professional career…some might, but others won’t. Even if you did, you can always work that “extra year” at the end of your career, if you’re worried about not having that one extra year’s worth of income (not sure if that’s what you’re arguing).[/quote]
Oops, good catch. Dang math, kills me every time πIs that $5k worth having to work an extra year? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Time = $ and I’m pretty sure it takes more time to graduate from a CC and a CSU/UC. That’s my main point, typically, it take at least an extra year to graduate from CC->CSU/UC vs going straight to CSU/UC. The reason I pick $40k number (just an arbitrary starting salary for a typical BS degree). It could be more it could be less. If you’re talking about adding one “extra year”, then the person who went straight to CSU/UC can work an extra year too.
Another way to look at it is, you have 47 years of your life for secondary school and work. Lets say you spend 5 years in college and 42 years of work and you save $5k-12k in school. But if you go straight to CSU/UC and graduate in 4 years. You’d spend 4 years in college and 43 years in working. You spend $5-12k more in school, but you’ll be making 1 extra year of salary.[/quote]
Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.
August 16, 2011 at 1:52 AM #720541CA renterParticipant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter][quote=AN][quote=CA renter]$5,000/year…yes, it’s worth it. As a matter of fact, CC students get priority over continuing students when they transfer for their junior year. IMHO, CC is a winner, all around.[/quote]
$4k/year, not $5k/year. $4k is not worth it if you lose a year from your professional career.[/quote]Going from your quote:
If you want to compete CSU vs CC WRT cost, CSU tuition is $6,562. Tuition for SD CC is ~$1500/year. That’s a cost difference of $4k/year.
The difference between $6,562 and $1,500 is $5, 062, not $4,000. [CC graduate! π ]
Still, not sure if you’d actually lose a year from your professional career…some might, but others won’t. Even if you did, you can always work that “extra year” at the end of your career, if you’re worried about not having that one extra year’s worth of income (not sure if that’s what you’re arguing).[/quote]
Oops, good catch. Dang math, kills me every time πIs that $5k worth having to work an extra year? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Time = $ and I’m pretty sure it takes more time to graduate from a CC and a CSU/UC. That’s my main point, typically, it take at least an extra year to graduate from CC->CSU/UC vs going straight to CSU/UC. The reason I pick $40k number (just an arbitrary starting salary for a typical BS degree). It could be more it could be less. If you’re talking about adding one “extra year”, then the person who went straight to CSU/UC can work an extra year too.
Another way to look at it is, you have 47 years of your life for secondary school and work. Lets say you spend 5 years in college and 42 years of work and you save $5k-12k in school. But if you go straight to CSU/UC and graduate in 4 years. You’d spend 4 years in college and 43 years in working. You spend $5-12k more in school, but you’ll be making 1 extra year of salary.[/quote]
Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.
August 16, 2011 at 1:52 AM #720696CA renterParticipant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter][quote=AN][quote=CA renter]$5,000/year…yes, it’s worth it. As a matter of fact, CC students get priority over continuing students when they transfer for their junior year. IMHO, CC is a winner, all around.[/quote]
$4k/year, not $5k/year. $4k is not worth it if you lose a year from your professional career.[/quote]Going from your quote:
If you want to compete CSU vs CC WRT cost, CSU tuition is $6,562. Tuition for SD CC is ~$1500/year. That’s a cost difference of $4k/year.
The difference between $6,562 and $1,500 is $5, 062, not $4,000. [CC graduate! π ]
Still, not sure if you’d actually lose a year from your professional career…some might, but others won’t. Even if you did, you can always work that “extra year” at the end of your career, if you’re worried about not having that one extra year’s worth of income (not sure if that’s what you’re arguing).[/quote]
Oops, good catch. Dang math, kills me every time πIs that $5k worth having to work an extra year? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Time = $ and I’m pretty sure it takes more time to graduate from a CC and a CSU/UC. That’s my main point, typically, it take at least an extra year to graduate from CC->CSU/UC vs going straight to CSU/UC. The reason I pick $40k number (just an arbitrary starting salary for a typical BS degree). It could be more it could be less. If you’re talking about adding one “extra year”, then the person who went straight to CSU/UC can work an extra year too.
Another way to look at it is, you have 47 years of your life for secondary school and work. Lets say you spend 5 years in college and 42 years of work and you save $5k-12k in school. But if you go straight to CSU/UC and graduate in 4 years. You’d spend 4 years in college and 43 years in working. You spend $5-12k more in school, but you’ll be making 1 extra year of salary.[/quote]
Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.
August 16, 2011 at 1:52 AM #721060CA renterParticipant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter][quote=AN][quote=CA renter]$5,000/year…yes, it’s worth it. As a matter of fact, CC students get priority over continuing students when they transfer for their junior year. IMHO, CC is a winner, all around.[/quote]
$4k/year, not $5k/year. $4k is not worth it if you lose a year from your professional career.[/quote]Going from your quote:
If you want to compete CSU vs CC WRT cost, CSU tuition is $6,562. Tuition for SD CC is ~$1500/year. That’s a cost difference of $4k/year.
The difference between $6,562 and $1,500 is $5, 062, not $4,000. [CC graduate! π ]
Still, not sure if you’d actually lose a year from your professional career…some might, but others won’t. Even if you did, you can always work that “extra year” at the end of your career, if you’re worried about not having that one extra year’s worth of income (not sure if that’s what you’re arguing).[/quote]
Oops, good catch. Dang math, kills me every time πIs that $5k worth having to work an extra year? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Time = $ and I’m pretty sure it takes more time to graduate from a CC and a CSU/UC. That’s my main point, typically, it take at least an extra year to graduate from CC->CSU/UC vs going straight to CSU/UC. The reason I pick $40k number (just an arbitrary starting salary for a typical BS degree). It could be more it could be less. If you’re talking about adding one “extra year”, then the person who went straight to CSU/UC can work an extra year too.
Another way to look at it is, you have 47 years of your life for secondary school and work. Lets say you spend 5 years in college and 42 years of work and you save $5k-12k in school. But if you go straight to CSU/UC and graduate in 4 years. You’d spend 4 years in college and 43 years in working. You spend $5-12k more in school, but you’ll be making 1 extra year of salary.[/quote]
Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.
August 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM #719854anParticipant[quote=CA renter]Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.[/quote]
Remember that I use 1 year on the job salary and not the last year on the job salary. That would make a big difference too. I look at that $4k-$5k in extra up front cost as being a good investment to making anywhere between $20-200k+ (depending on whether you use 1st year or last year salary and which profession you’re in). Also, this is assuming the student doesn’t work or if the parents doesn’t help with school. If the student work, I’m sure they can work an extra shift or two to scrape together ~$1k-$1200/year.I gave my dad all the credit he deserves, especially after I finish college. He worked, took care of 2 kids, and didn’t even speak a single word of English a few years earlier. Yet, he graduated cum laude as well (or was it magna cum laude, I don’t remember exactly, but regardless, it impresses with his achievements under that circumstances).
August 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM #719946anParticipant[quote=CA renter]Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.[/quote]
Remember that I use 1 year on the job salary and not the last year on the job salary. That would make a big difference too. I look at that $4k-$5k in extra up front cost as being a good investment to making anywhere between $20-200k+ (depending on whether you use 1st year or last year salary and which profession you’re in). Also, this is assuming the student doesn’t work or if the parents doesn’t help with school. If the student work, I’m sure they can work an extra shift or two to scrape together ~$1k-$1200/year.I gave my dad all the credit he deserves, especially after I finish college. He worked, took care of 2 kids, and didn’t even speak a single word of English a few years earlier. Yet, he graduated cum laude as well (or was it magna cum laude, I don’t remember exactly, but regardless, it impresses with his achievements under that circumstances).
August 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM #720546anParticipant[quote=CA renter]Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.[/quote]
Remember that I use 1 year on the job salary and not the last year on the job salary. That would make a big difference too. I look at that $4k-$5k in extra up front cost as being a good investment to making anywhere between $20-200k+ (depending on whether you use 1st year or last year salary and which profession you’re in). Also, this is assuming the student doesn’t work or if the parents doesn’t help with school. If the student work, I’m sure they can work an extra shift or two to scrape together ~$1k-$1200/year.I gave my dad all the credit he deserves, especially after I finish college. He worked, took care of 2 kids, and didn’t even speak a single word of English a few years earlier. Yet, he graduated cum laude as well (or was it magna cum laude, I don’t remember exactly, but regardless, it impresses with his achievements under that circumstances).
August 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM #720701anParticipant[quote=CA renter]Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.[/quote]
Remember that I use 1 year on the job salary and not the last year on the job salary. That would make a big difference too. I look at that $4k-$5k in extra up front cost as being a good investment to making anywhere between $20-200k+ (depending on whether you use 1st year or last year salary and which profession you’re in). Also, this is assuming the student doesn’t work or if the parents doesn’t help with school. If the student work, I’m sure they can work an extra shift or two to scrape together ~$1k-$1200/year.I gave my dad all the credit he deserves, especially after I finish college. He worked, took care of 2 kids, and didn’t even speak a single word of English a few years earlier. Yet, he graduated cum laude as well (or was it magna cum laude, I don’t remember exactly, but regardless, it impresses with his achievements under that circumstances).
August 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM #721065anParticipant[quote=CA renter]Yes, I get your point, but one might also argue that money is more valuable when you are starting out, so saving that money now — possibly the difference between staying out of debt or taking on loans — might be more valuable than having that 1 year’s worth of extra income later.
Of course, there are so many variables involved.
Correction regarding mom…it was cum laude, not summa cum laude. Still, I probably didn’t give her enough credit, especially since English wasn’t her native language.[/quote]
Remember that I use 1 year on the job salary and not the last year on the job salary. That would make a big difference too. I look at that $4k-$5k in extra up front cost as being a good investment to making anywhere between $20-200k+ (depending on whether you use 1st year or last year salary and which profession you’re in). Also, this is assuming the student doesn’t work or if the parents doesn’t help with school. If the student work, I’m sure they can work an extra shift or two to scrape together ~$1k-$1200/year.I gave my dad all the credit he deserves, especially after I finish college. He worked, took care of 2 kids, and didn’t even speak a single word of English a few years earlier. Yet, he graduated cum laude as well (or was it magna cum laude, I don’t remember exactly, but regardless, it impresses with his achievements under that circumstances).
August 16, 2011 at 2:23 AM #719859CA renterParticipantGood for your dad, and good for you for recognizing his achievements. π
August 16, 2011 at 2:23 AM #719951CA renterParticipantGood for your dad, and good for you for recognizing his achievements. π
August 16, 2011 at 2:23 AM #720551CA renterParticipantGood for your dad, and good for you for recognizing his achievements. π
August 16, 2011 at 2:23 AM #720706CA renterParticipantGood for your dad, and good for you for recognizing his achievements. π
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