OT: Obama is Conservative

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]surveyor, please check the YouTube link posted by jfiq…

It’s really remarkable how he stumbles over “the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor” part. It could even have been something as small as a typo on the speech, leaving off the ‘s’ on bomb(s). He’s speaking in front of a large group of people and in front of cameras.

You agree?

Or do you think he’s dumb?

BTW, I don’t think Bush43 is dumb at all. He’s been incredibly shrewd and has won every ‘political’ battle he’s been in. I think his flaws are flaws of character and comprehension. And I also think he’s a chicken-shit and flinched after 9/11. Played right into AQ’s trap. Big-time.[/quote]

Bush’s main strength his is character and devotion to his ideals. Its called leadership. Leadership is what we ask for in a president.

Can you name a president with more guts and determination then Bush?

John

[Aecetia]

Gandalf,

None taken and I really think you have toned down a lot from some of your previous posts, but you have competition from both sides of the political spectrum. Lately, you have sounded very reasonable to me. I am a Reagan conservative when it comes to government control and I cannot help but think he would be appalled by the growth in government under “W”. I know, he grew it too, but not the same way. As I said before RR was an Emersonian and that describes many of my political views. I am not overboard green, but I do not want to breathe smog, hunt grey wolves or run out of salmon under the profligate banner of 100% unfettered free market capitalism. Frankly, I liked Romney because for me and most of my associates: “It’s the economy, stupid” all over again.

[Aecetia]

Gandalf,

None taken and I really think you have toned down a lot from some of your previous posts, but you have competition from both sides of the political spectrum. Lately, you have sounded very reasonable to me. I am a Reagan conservative when it comes to government control and I cannot help but think he would be appalled by the growth in government under “W”. I know, he grew it too, but not the same way. As I said before RR was an Emersonian and that describes many of my political views. I am not overboard green, but I do not want to breathe smog, hunt grey wolves or run out of salmon under the profligate banner of 100% unfettered free market capitalism. Frankly, I liked Romney because for me and most of my associates: “It’s the economy, stupid” all over again.

[Aecetia]

Gandalf,

None taken and I really think you have toned down a lot from some of your previous posts, but you have competition from both sides of the political spectrum. Lately, you have sounded very reasonable to me. I am a Reagan conservative when it comes to government control and I cannot help but think he would be appalled by the growth in government under “W”. I know, he grew it too, but not the same way. As I said before RR was an Emersonian and that describes many of my political views. I am not overboard green, but I do not want to breathe smog, hunt grey wolves or run out of salmon under the profligate banner of 100% unfettered free market capitalism. Frankly, I liked Romney because for me and most of my associates: “It’s the economy, stupid” all over again.

[Aecetia]

Gandalf,

None taken and I really think you have toned down a lot from some of your previous posts, but you have competition from both sides of the political spectrum. Lately, you have sounded very reasonable to me. I am a Reagan conservative when it comes to government control and I cannot help but think he would be appalled by the growth in government under “W”. I know, he grew it too, but not the same way. As I said before RR was an Emersonian and that describes many of my political views. I am not overboard green, but I do not want to breathe smog, hunt grey wolves or run out of salmon under the profligate banner of 100% unfettered free market capitalism. Frankly, I liked Romney because for me and most of my associates: “It’s the economy, stupid” all over again.

[Aecetia]

Gandalf,

None taken and I really think you have toned down a lot from some of your previous posts, but you have competition from both sides of the political spectrum. Lately, you have sounded very reasonable to me. I am a Reagan conservative when it comes to government control and I cannot help but think he would be appalled by the growth in government under “W”. I know, he grew it too, but not the same way. As I said before RR was an Emersonian and that describes many of my political views. I am not overboard green, but I do not want to breathe smog, hunt grey wolves or run out of salmon under the profligate banner of 100% unfettered free market capitalism. Frankly, I liked Romney because for me and most of my associates: “It’s the economy, stupid” all over again.

[no_such_reality]

My core issue is I don’t believe a word he says. I believe everything he says is carefully crafted to garner votes and doesn’t reflect anything he may actually do. Hence I don’t know what he’ll do, then I look at his record before he started pandering and it’s clear.

McCain is pandering just as badly.

[no_such_reality]

My core issue is I don’t believe a word he says. I believe everything he says is carefully crafted to garner votes and doesn’t reflect anything he may actually do. Hence I don’t know what he’ll do, then I look at his record before he started pandering and it’s clear.

McCain is pandering just as badly.

[no_such_reality]

My core issue is I don’t believe a word he says. I believe everything he says is carefully crafted to garner votes and doesn’t reflect anything he may actually do. Hence I don’t know what he’ll do, then I look at his record before he started pandering and it’s clear.

McCain is pandering just as badly.

[no_such_reality]

My core issue is I don’t believe a word he says. I believe everything he says is carefully crafted to garner votes and doesn’t reflect anything he may actually do. Hence I don’t know what he’ll do, then I look at his record before he started pandering and it’s clear.

McCain is pandering just as badly.

[no_such_reality]

My core issue is I don’t believe a word he says. I believe everything he says is carefully crafted to garner votes and doesn’t reflect anything he may actually do. Hence I don’t know what he’ll do, then I look at his record before he started pandering and it’s clear.

McCain is pandering just as badly.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]That’s another good link, jfiq.

I don’t see the huge ‘flip-flop’ here. The Supreme Court’s decision was quite a bit more nuanced than the MSM reported. Obama’s position on gun control is basically the same: the individual has a right to own handguns but the government has the right to impose common sense regulations on the purchase and ownership. If his position changed, it went from 45% to 55%.

Besides, I really couldn’t give a rat’s ass about gun control. That wasn’t the topic. This discussion is about foreign policy.
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A constitutional law professor should be comfortable with nuanced decisions.

You don’t care about gun control, neither to I, but I do take notice when a constitutional law professor handles questioning on an amendment to the constitution in such an amateurish fashion.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]That’s another good link, jfiq.

I don’t see the huge ‘flip-flop’ here. The Supreme Court’s decision was quite a bit more nuanced than the MSM reported. Obama’s position on gun control is basically the same: the individual has a right to own handguns but the government has the right to impose common sense regulations on the purchase and ownership. If his position changed, it went from 45% to 55%.

Besides, I really couldn’t give a rat’s ass about gun control. That wasn’t the topic. This discussion is about foreign policy.
[/quote]

A constitutional law professor should be comfortable with nuanced decisions.

You don’t care about gun control, neither to I, but I do take notice when a constitutional law professor handles questioning on an amendment to the constitution in such an amateurish fashion.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]That’s another good link, jfiq.

I don’t see the huge ‘flip-flop’ here. The Supreme Court’s decision was quite a bit more nuanced than the MSM reported. Obama’s position on gun control is basically the same: the individual has a right to own handguns but the government has the right to impose common sense regulations on the purchase and ownership. If his position changed, it went from 45% to 55%.

Besides, I really couldn’t give a rat’s ass about gun control. That wasn’t the topic. This discussion is about foreign policy.
[/quote]

A constitutional law professor should be comfortable with nuanced decisions.

You don’t care about gun control, neither to I, but I do take notice when a constitutional law professor handles questioning on an amendment to the constitution in such an amateurish fashion.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]That’s another good link, jfiq.

I don’t see the huge ‘flip-flop’ here. The Supreme Court’s decision was quite a bit more nuanced than the MSM reported. Obama’s position on gun control is basically the same: the individual has a right to own handguns but the government has the right to impose common sense regulations on the purchase and ownership. If his position changed, it went from 45% to 55%.

Besides, I really couldn’t give a rat’s ass about gun control. That wasn’t the topic. This discussion is about foreign policy.
[/quote]

A constitutional law professor should be comfortable with nuanced decisions.

You don’t care about gun control, neither to I, but I do take notice when a constitutional law professor handles questioning on an amendment to the constitution in such an amateurish fashion.

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