OT: weight training

[zzz]

[quote=walterwhite]but all the really big guys are hanging out near the freeweights.

sur id like to be cool, but that’s unlikely. what id really like to be is STRONG. like really really strong.

a man really should be able to carry his woman around, and even haul her upa flight of stairs,

what about CROSSFIT?

they seem kind of tough…[/quote]

haha, yes crossfit will get you STRONG! report back and let us know how you’re walking the next day 🙂

[jstoesz]

He is most certainly going to die.

Then again, Reinhold Messner didn’t die, but his brother sure did.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite] a man really should be able to carry his woman around, and even haul her upa flight of stairs,
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haha, I really want to see the typical American husband carry his wife upstairs. That would be quite a sight.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1][quote=walterwhite] a man really should be able to carry his woman around, and even haul her upa flight of stairs,
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haha, I really want to see the typical American husband carry his wife upstairs. That would be quite a sight.[/quote]

True dat.

To the other poster about carrying wife around, I just mean to say that Deadlift is foundational for just about everything else. Want to sprint faster? Better long distance times? Jump higher? Easily move things around? Have a strong back, not a weak one? Yard work?

As far as Cross-fit that’s ok, but it’s overkill for most people. Robb Wolf used to be a big crossfit guy, and one thing they do is extreme high rep stuff. He said he once did the daily workout which involved doing some high rep deadlifts, and it killed his back. After that vowed never again, to DL cross-fit style. Now prefers strictly high weight, low rep (5 reps or less). Tim Ferris was on his podcast a little while back and stated that he tries to DL until there is only 1 more possible rep in the tank. If he can get to 5 reps both times, he knows he can add 5 lbs. next time.

[scaredyclassic]

My wife is small and light, perfect for carrying around.

[Fearful]

[quote=briansd1]Whatever you do, don’t be taking protein shakes and supplements. If you do, you will paying for it later in terms of health problems. And if you build muscle mass with dietary supplement, when you slow down, in older age, it will all get replaced with fat.
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Sorry, man, you’re out to lunch on this one. Maybe you’re thinking about steroids. Simply eating a bunch of extra protein is not going to hurt anyone. And muscled does not “turn into” fat. Expanded eating habits may mean adding fat as muscle atrophies, but muscle does not create fat.

Check out anastrozole for quasi-natural testosterone increase. It blocks the conversion of testosterone into estrogen (actually estradiol). Men turn bitchy in middle age because they get better at converting testosterone into female hormones. Sick, ain’t it?

[CardiffBaseball]

Brian doesn’t strike me as a guy who participated in power oriented athletic endeavors? Obviously the big-three sports, and things like wrestling, MMA, lacrosse (only because so many football players). You cannot get enough protein from eating food without going completely broke.

Thanks for the tip Fearful, I am feeling bitchy as hell right now at 43.

[scaredyclassic]

I have been at the intense lifting for just 9 sessions, about 3 weeks, and lesser lifting but a lot of pushups for 3 weeks before that, and eating a lot of protein and resting a day or two after the workout. I’m used to physical intensity from bike riding, horrendous 200 mile weekend trips in highelevation, long distance touring type riding… Different but I know how to exert myself. Except I always hated weights.

If you need inspiration, in just 6 weeks, and basically 3 hardcore weeks, I am bigger, such that people notice. I look different.

If youre like me thinking running and biking are all you need perhaps you’re in denial like I was. When I really think about what I desire, What I want is to be a large imposing muscley action figure, a body that makes other men slightly intimidated and makes women weak. Big thick legs like tree trunks. Thick buttocks. A broad and powerful back. Large shoulders.

I see no reason not to make this body.

[briansd1]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]Brian doesn’t strike me as a guy who participated in power oriented athletic endeavors? Obviously the big-three sports, and things like wrestling, MMA, lacrosse (only because so many football players). You cannot get enough protein from eating food without going completely broke.

Thanks for the tip Fearful, I am feeling bitchy as hell right now at 43.[/quote]

You’re right. I’m not into power athletics.
I’m more into civilized sports. 😉

[quote=Fearful][quote=briansd1]Whatever you do, don’t be taking protein shakes and supplements. If you do, you will paying for it later in terms of health problems. And if you build muscle mass with dietary supplement, when you slow down, in older age, it will all get replaced with fat.
[/quote]

Sorry, man, you’re out to lunch on this one. Maybe you’re thinking about steroids. Simply eating a bunch of extra protein is not going to hurt anyone. And muscled does not “turn into” fat. Expanded eating habits may mean adding fat as muscle atrophies, but muscle does not create fat.

Check out anastrozole for quasi-natural testosterone increase. It blocks the conversion of testosterone into estrogen (actually estradiol). Men turn bitchy in middle age because they get better at converting testosterone into female hormones. Sick, ain’t it?[/quote]

You’re correct, I’m thinking more steoroids.

And yes, muscle doesn’t turn to fat. But as you said, when muscle atrophies, fat builds up.

From my own observation, power athletes (including average Joes who are into power workouts at the gym) all turn into fat asses after a certain age.

I have a good friend who’s 6’1″ 250#. He keeps on taking all the protein junk and gains weight every year. He claims to be so strong. But then he complains of back pain, and is even considering back surgery. Soon he will be 300# and won’t be able to haul himself out of bed.

Who gives a crap how much you can lift. IMO, better lay off the crap, do aerobic excercises and return to 180#. That should be the first order of priority before even thinking back surgery.

I understand that if you are into competitive sports to make a living, then you need to juice with supplements. But if you’re just going to the gym, it should be about looking good in a proportionate way, and being healthy for the long term.

There’s a culture among lifters that more and bigger is better. It’s just psychological.

[svelte]

[quote=walterwhite]but all the really big guys are hanging out near the freeweights.

sur id like to be cool, but that’s unlikely. what id really like to be is STRONG. like really really strong. scary strong. ive been living in an aerobic fantasy land long enough…[/quote]

Understand the freeweight sentiment above. Actually, I’ve only started venturing into the free weights the last few months because, as you elude to, that is real big guy territory.

When we first started going to LAF, it was all guys back there. Then my wife got a trainer and he started taking her back. Then she started dragging me back. Now there are several couples back there.

See if your wife will join you. It feels less awkward. And free weights, they are da bomb for building muscle.

[scaredyclassic]

Big strong and powerful. Explosive power.

This is good.

Weightlifting alone also seems to maintain aerobic fitness. I’ve done no aerobic exercise for six weeks and then went to the track with my kid and ran my usual 7.5 min mile.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]
You’re right. I’m not into power athletics.
I’m more into civilized sports. 😉
[/quote]

Brian: Do you have a dueling scar?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]Brian doesn’t strike me as a guy who participated in power oriented athletic endeavors? Obviously the big-three sports, and things like wrestling, MMA, lacrosse (only because so many football players). You cannot get enough protein from eating food without going completely broke.

Thanks for the tip Fearful, I am feeling bitchy as hell right now at 43.[/quote]

Cardiff: You’re absolutely right, both about the protein and the deadlifting. I played football and wrestled in HS and power- and deadlifting completely changed my game. I played middle linebacker and it enhanced my speed to the ball, as the well as the ability to blow up the blocker (great core strength, combined with superior leverage) and make the tackle.

Now that I’m older, I focus on aerobics primarily, but still lift on a limited basis with an emphasis on the core and the “frame”. It never goes away if you maintain it properly.

As to protein, there is an excellent 100% Whey protein powder available at Costco (CytoSport) that’s about $5/lb (I won’t pay over $5 to $6/lb for this stuff, and the “pro” stuff from GNC is completely overpriced). I mix this (vanilla flavored) with orange juice, ice and a banana in the blender for breakfast. Good stuff and it sticks around till lunch time, so you don’t have that crash you get with sugar.

Bodybuilder joke for you. Q: How many bodybuilders does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: Two. One to screw in the lightbulb and the other to stand below and yell, “You’re looking HUGE, man, you’re looking HUGE!”

[scaredyclassic]

Cliche midlife move; buy a powerful sports car.

Maybe the new cliche midlife move should be to add a couple dozen pounds of muscle.

Didn’t the midlife dude in American beauty hit the iron?

[svelte]

[quote=walterwhite]Cliche midlife move; buy a powerful sports car.

Maybe the new cliche midlife move should be to add a couple dozen pounds of muscle.
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I bought powerful sports cars as soon as my finances allowed it…though many accused me of having a MLC. Whatever, I buy what I like. After years of buying minivans and 4doors, I started buying for me instead of the kids cuz they had cars of their own and I could afford it.

Started weightlifting cuz my kid dragged me to the gym one day. Much to my surprise, I found I liked it!

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