Optimist or pessimist on the future of the country?

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This is not about whether you can thrive and prosper as an individual or family. What do you feel about the future of the country?

I’m not feeling optimistic right now. Covid, police abuse, injustice, substance abuse, etc…
So many people are now in dead end situations — no skills, no money, rents keep increasing.

[scaredyclassic]

Will be ok for wealthy, terrible for poor,
Then unliveable for all in 50 years

[barnaby33]

This may actually hurt Rich’s eyes to read, but I’m a long term optimist. I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation, resource exhaustion and the accompanying food fight to maintain ones standard of living. These will get solved, one way or another and life will go on. I may or may not survive to see that bright future, but its there in front of us.
Josh

[svelte]

[quote=barnaby33] I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation…
Josh[/quote]

I am continually amazed at how many of the “save the planet” folks do not even MENTION overpopulation, or at least population growth.

That is the one thing that will do the most to preserve the planet in the long term, and the one thing that never leaves their lips.

[gogogosandiego]

[quote=svelte][quote=barnaby33] I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation…
Josh[/quote]

I am continually amazed at how many of the “save the planet” folks do not even MENTION overpopulation, or at least population growth.

That is the one thing that will do the most to preserve the planet in the long term, and the one thing that never leaves their lips.[/quote]

LOL. The worlds population is growing at less than 2% per year and that rate is declining.

Wait until the baby boomers and similar generations die off. We’re going to be begging people to have kids.

[phaster]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Will be ok for wealthy, terrible for poor,
Then unliveable for all in 50 years[/quote]

eventually the economy is going to get much worst for everyone because here in the USA sadly no matter if its local, state or at the federal level DISHONEST and DUMB money management by career politicians and public employ leadership,… created a really, really, really big mess

what politicians and the bureaucrats have actually built is a house of cards where the assumption is taxpayers can backstop the bad financial mismanagement of FAKE LEADERSHIP

simple honest truth is we have some pretty big problems that have to be acknowledged, and only after that is done and the magnitude of the problems understood will things improve

https://www.reuters.com/article/column-miller-pensions/risk-of-pension-meltdown-grows-due-to-inaction-by-u-s-congress-idUSKBN1Z61IN

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=gogogosandiego][quote=svelte][quote=barnaby33] I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation…
Josh[/quote]

I am continually amazed at how many of the “save the planet” folks do not even MENTION overpopulation, or at least population growth.

That is the one thing that will do the most to preserve the planet in the long term, and the one thing that never leaves their lips.[/quote]

LOL. The worlds population is growing at less than 2% per year and that rate is declining.

Wait until the baby boomers and similar generations die off. We’re going to be begging people to have kids.[/quote]

Its not worth the effort to have kids.

[svelte]

[quote=gogogosandiego][quote=svelte][quote=barnaby33] I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation…
Josh[/quote]

I am continually amazed at how many of the “save the planet” folks do not even MENTION overpopulation, or at least population growth.

That is the one thing that will do the most to preserve the planet in the long term, and the one thing that never leaves their lips.[/quote]

LOL. The worlds population is growing at less than 2% per year and that rate is declining.
[/quote]

That is 156 million more people EACH YEAR.

The entire Los Angeles metropolitan area is 13 million people.

That means we add twelve Los Angeles basins worth of people. Each and every year. Year after year.

[outtamojo]

They must be hitting the mark more accurately or Catholic. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/young-americans-less-sex-intl-scli-wellness/index.html.

[spdrun]

See, I’m for free love, with birth control and abortion available on demand, without stigma. Sex shouldn’t be stigmatized, but we should control population.

[FlyerInHi]

As the world becomes richer we will fall to replacement, then below replacement.
More migration to the cities. The long term trend is urban.

[gogogosandiego]

[quote=svelte][quote=gogogosandiego][quote=svelte][quote=barnaby33] I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation…
Josh[/quote]

I am continually amazed at how many of the “save the planet” folks do not even MENTION overpopulation, or at least population growth.

That is the one thing that will do the most to preserve the planet in the long term, and the one thing that never leaves their lips.[/quote]

LOL. The worlds population is growing at less than 2% per year and that rate is declining.
[/quote]

That is 156 million more people EACH YEAR.

The entire Los Angeles metropolitan area is 13 million people.

That means we add twelve Los Angeles basins worth of people. Each and every year. Year after year.[/quote]

OMG. Sounds horrible. 156M is sooo much worse than ~1.5%.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=svelte][quote=barnaby33] I think the problems people are focusing on are distractions to avoid dealing with the real issues in front of us. Overpopulation…
Josh[/quote]

I am continually amazed at how many of the “save the planet” folks do not even MENTION overpopulation, or at least population growth.

That is the one thing that will do the most to preserve the planet in the long term, and the one thing that never leaves their lips.[/quote]

This is a typical “they-don’t-talk-about-that” argument to dismiss man made climate change as an issue we need to deal with. “They don’t talk about that. They’ re talking about a lot of other things, but they don ‘t talk about that.”

It’s also an all-or-nothing argument where “until we deal with population, we can’t talk about climate change”.

In fact, there are lots of old and new technologies we can implement to have a positive impact. First off, provide birth control to all citizens of the world. That’s very easy to do, we just need the political will.

[spdrun]

^^^

Birth control AND abortion. Say it. Abortion. Abortion should be legal on demand.

[svelte]

[quote=gogogosandiego]

OMG. Sounds horrible. 156M is sooo much worse than ~1.5%.[/quote]

It is horrible.

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