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July 29, 2008 at 10:25 AM #248891July 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM #248814jficquetteParticipant
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).
What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.
Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).
Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.[/quote]
Allan,
A book that you would very much enjoy is a book written by Eisenhower called “Crusade in Europe” it was his story of WW2. It was written in 1947.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you have already read it. If not check it out.
Thanks
John
July 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM #248973jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).
What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.
Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).
Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.[/quote]
Allan,
A book that you would very much enjoy is a book written by Eisenhower called “Crusade in Europe” it was his story of WW2. It was written in 1947.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you have already read it. If not check it out.
Thanks
John
July 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM #248981jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).
What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.
Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).
Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.[/quote]
Allan,
A book that you would very much enjoy is a book written by Eisenhower called “Crusade in Europe” it was his story of WW2. It was written in 1947.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you have already read it. If not check it out.
Thanks
John
July 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM #249041jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).
What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.
Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).
Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.[/quote]
Allan,
A book that you would very much enjoy is a book written by Eisenhower called “Crusade in Europe” it was his story of WW2. It was written in 1947.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you have already read it. If not check it out.
Thanks
John
July 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM #249050jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).
What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.
Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).
Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.[/quote]
Allan,
A book that you would very much enjoy is a book written by Eisenhower called “Crusade in Europe” it was his story of WW2. It was written in 1947.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you have already read it. If not check it out.
Thanks
John
July 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM #2496254plexownerParticipantHere ya’ go SD Engineer – trash this guy too
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/70032
Retired NASA SpaceCraft Operator Witnessed Extraterrestrial in Space Shuttle Mission
July 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM #2497814plexownerParticipantHere ya’ go SD Engineer – trash this guy too
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/70032
Retired NASA SpaceCraft Operator Witnessed Extraterrestrial in Space Shuttle Mission
July 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM #2497884plexownerParticipantHere ya’ go SD Engineer – trash this guy too
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/70032
Retired NASA SpaceCraft Operator Witnessed Extraterrestrial in Space Shuttle Mission
July 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM #2498474plexownerParticipantHere ya’ go SD Engineer – trash this guy too
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/70032
Retired NASA SpaceCraft Operator Witnessed Extraterrestrial in Space Shuttle Mission
July 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM #2498554plexownerParticipantHere ya’ go SD Engineer – trash this guy too
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/70032
Retired NASA SpaceCraft Operator Witnessed Extraterrestrial in Space Shuttle Mission
July 31, 2008 at 8:10 AM #2496304plexownerParticipant… and read “Dark Mission – The Secret History of NASA” so you can refute the information their as well
July 31, 2008 at 8:10 AM #2497864plexownerParticipant… and read “Dark Mission – The Secret History of NASA” so you can refute the information their as well
July 31, 2008 at 8:10 AM #2497934plexownerParticipant… and read “Dark Mission – The Secret History of NASA” so you can refute the information their as well
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